http://i.imgur.com/02t8ElA.jpg
Are you tired of wearing MACO or K. Honor Guard armor? What do you say about this one?
I know that because of the authorship of this right can not be used , but it would be great to put on something very similar like this. I think the armor looks very romulan.
You'd be willing to buy this one for zen / dilithium / Lobi ?
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Agreed! Add the Raptor insignia and a few other things and it would be perfect!
An imperial raptor I would not like nor wear, nor would I expect Cryptic/PWE to put any imperial Romulan imagery onto the proposed Romulan faction alternative to MACO and KHG costumes and thereby subject the majority of Romulan players (who seem to have no great issue with the Republic), to reminders of the oppression and atrocities visited upon them and their families and friends by the Star Empire and its Gestapo. I also believe it is rather presumptuous and unrealistic to even suggest that they should slap an imperial raptor a thing which has been proposed as a Romulan faction alternative to MACO and KHG costumes.
I know a few of you are not content with the Republic as the only real option for Romulan players, and if I had been responsible for forcing Romulan players into two distinct alliances, my own choice (as I have said before in the Romulan Gameplay forum) would have been the Star Empire and something very much like the Republic. However, like it or not, the Romulan imperialists just don't have the numbers to justify that (and yes, you could argue that had the option existed from the launch of LoR, it might be different, and yes, I will concede that it might have been, but that's all hypothetical and neither I nor anyone else can say with certainty that it would have been one way or another). And whether you or I like the way it was done or not, it was done that way, and the likelihood of any major change such as would be required to grant concessions to the imperialists (who are currently a minority, albeit a very vocal one).
In fact, if I had been the one in charge of the development of STO from the beginning, there would have been three factions when the game was in Closed Beta, and yes, one of those would have been Romulan (and frankly, yes, it would have been the Shiar ih'Saeihr Rihan, or "Romulan Star Empire -- but not the version of TNG and the later series, which I will always regard as a betrayal of what the Romulans were from the beginning of Trek).
Would I like something distinct for Romulans instead of MACO or KHG? Sure. Would I want RSE logos on it? Not a chance. Would I give up my KHG costumes? I dunno. I do know that I would not give them up for the costume shown in the image in the OP, because it looks a bit too much like an unpleasant insect (of the order Blattodea) to my eyes. I like the cloak on it, and the helmet doesn't look bad, but the armor itself just makes me think of those nasty lbugs I am pleased to have escaped from when I left the city of my childhood some years ago. I would instead suggest something more avian in appearance, and less insectoid. But a cloak would be absolutely necessary.
Seriously, I would grind or, even pay for that for me Remans/romulans.
Please make it so Cryptic but, I don't foresee it ever happening, because Cryptic doesn't like to make money with things like this it seems.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
THAT was funny! I mean, the PLAYERS of course NEVER had any experience with opression etc by the RSE... The chars had that perhaps, and that only because they are forced to have by the storyline - and even that did quiet a number of them not preventing from arguing for the RSE/TS... Perhaps we should ask why that is so, that even against the chains of a VERY black-white storyline so many would still choose the Empire...
I would rather say that many, perhaps even the majority of the Romulan players did not care so much about the question if either Republic or Empire (they want to play simply Romulans, use their ships etc.). And about the numbers of the more key-supporters of RSE and RR. well, I guess they are more or less the same strength.
I also disagree that the traditional Romulan players not have the numbers - as I said above I think most Romulan players would have no problem with a RSE-logo on the front of their chars (but are also not so much behind that matter). They simply would gladly accept a ROMULAN armor and having nothing to complain if it have insignia of the RSE, just be no longer forced to wear foreign armor. The traditional Romulan players would in many cases love it (if they agree with the picture, what is not granted), the only one who very likely would have a problem with it would be the minority of hard-core Republicans (and by the way, it should be possible to remove the insignia). And of course - and THAT is a case it should be thought over with care - it might be a problem for those who choose to play a REMAN. They may claim that again they left something behind...
About the rest of your statement, I must say, do you not think it is also a little bit bold to judge a main source of information of the background (TNG) as betrayal? Even more it is comes from a person who just above claimed "like it or not, just face how it is"? Seems you just not want to swallow the same medicine you order others to drink... *g*
Dude, stop trolling my posts. Stop trying to hijack every thread I post anything in. I will not be baited by you further. If you continue, I will report you. I stated my opinion about KHG and this armor and stated why. You don't have to like it. The topic of this thread is not you or me. If you have something to say about the armor in the OP, say it.
I mean, since you have (and use) the freedom to comment on things you disagree, either if they were directed towards you or not, I think it is a little bit strange if you want to deny the same possibility to others...
You make claim which are hard to confirm (since I think neither you nor I are in the position to say without question what the majority of the Romulan players think). I have written my own opinion, why I think a RSE-logo would be ok in my eyes (what you clearly not want to see) and why I think that your arguments AGAINST such a logo are not very convincing and which parts made no sense in my eyes. I wonder what kind of discussion you normaly have, but until now I had thought this is a way it works. Arguments, and counter-arguments. So it was about the armor (RSE logo or not and why not or why, that it should also some thoughts about Reman players etc.), and it was Off-play - so what is your problem? You also had written several things who had not much to do with the idea of the armor which were topic of this thread (I mean, the words what would be if you were in a position to decide something in STO from the start...well I think some people think that is sad while other have a rather different opinion). So I must say I have quiet some problems to understand the way you argue, sorry...
First proto, I gotta say I absolutely ADORE your need to hijack every single thread to be about your vision for Romulans. Second look at the RR raptor, its far FAR too vertical to work on a suit of armor, thus the my statement about the Imperial raptor since it would perfectly flow across the chest. Third... you do realize your own sig uses the Imperial logo TWICE? Before ******** and moaning about how you dont want to wear the RSE's symbol you might want to fix your sig.
lastly can you and caedicius take your war back to that other thread you hijacked into a personal TRIBBLE war?
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and before you try to conjure some bs up.. I love the RR raptor, its one of the best art assets Cryptic did.
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BTW the suggested name of the armor is PRAETORIAN Guard Armor... Praetor is an Empire title and not one we've seen used at all by the Republic. This would infer that any such armor is made in the image of an Imperial suit, not a Republican one.
I've sent you a friend request through Arc if you wish to discuss this further with me and avoid thread hijacking. I've also started another thread where you and all the other imperialists can try to argue with or debate me to your hearts' content, without any further hijacking of this thread.
Spitballing some ideas (I am not a mechanics guy so this may be broken but I promise it's not on purpose):
Praetorian Elite Armor
Praetorian Elite Shield
When receiving damage while aiming, 5% to apply Reciprocal Redirection
Praetorian Elite Plasma High Density Rifle
Beam Setting
Plasma Damage
- 51.6 Plasma Damage x2 (108.7 DPS)
- 5% Chance: 26.2 Plasma Damage per second (ignores shields)
- 5% Chance: -20 All Damage resistance rating for 10 sec
High Density BeamCylindrical AOE Plasma Damage and Repel
Exploit Attack
Set Abilities (I give up on making numbers, looking up references to base them off of is taking too damn long)
Silent Predator
Integrated Remodulator (duh)
Tried to make it not purely favor Tac by making the armor apply to all damage rather than just energy damage with the intent of buffing aggressive Sci powers too. Not sure what I want the long CD ability to be but I'm out of time to post so kthxbai
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does no one else love miniguns but me? :P Cool ideas and stats tho seriously. Personal preference would be a full auto rifle, or minigun.... or something really not used, dual pistols... just cause NO ONE uses that lol
Paint it green, adjust the helmet a bit and stick a Romulan Republic Logo on it. Perfect. No matter how much some people want to be RSE, the facts are that the game has shoehorned us into being Romulan Republic. One can roleplay otherwise of course but as far as anyone or any npc sees you in the game, it'll be as a Republican.
Frankly I'm cool with that. I like the Romulan Republic.
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Not bad. I would support that!
I am rather fond of my Romulan Plasma Assault Minigun. *nod* I have also used Dual Pistols a bit, to my satisfaction. Either ought to do quite well.
I seem to recall someone in a past discussion here make a suggestion in passing that a melee weapon would be nice for a Romulan version of the KHG/MACO gear. While I would also love a Romulan melee weapon, I must say that I'm not convinced it should be the weapon for this set -- but that would of course depend on the particulars of the weapon.
that is pretty sweet
another interesting idea would be to use this as a place to bring back a purple piercing rifle Non-stop pew pew
Yeah, i like an armor what does not look like 1) toy soldier from Toy story (voth) 2) power ranger (maco) 3) green lantern (counter-command)
You forgot the new and, improved Storm trooper armor from the Delta Rep.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
My personal vote would go to the Nemesis Senate Guard uniform. There are a lot of things I hate about that movie, that uniform is not one of them. It's a canon design, and it looks like armor, which make it a nice choice for an armor set IMO.
Perhaps it could be paired with the older TNG Romulan Disruptor design?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060306002141/memoryalpha/en/images/c/c5/Romulan_disruptor_rifle,_2368.jpg
I agree with giving the "classic" TNG Romulan rifle.
It will not happen, but whatever.
Ah hah! Should have known it was related to that Delta Quadrant Death Star somehow.