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ID this for real? another Skill point nerf !!!

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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It's very telling when the more likely of 2 explanations (and the easier to believe across the board) is that this was intentional to grind players into paying real money for xp boosts.


    It's sad when THAT is the more believable explanation and that everybody is so burnt out they can't even get upset anymore.

    I honestly can't believe that because I can't believe anyone would ever buy them. They're a weak value and would be at any price. "20% up to X amount" doesn't cut it for me. It's an unsexy pitch.

    X% for X time? Interesting.

    X amount, maybe.

    It's like saying, "I'll give you two extra tires up to a maximum total of two tires included when you buy my car."
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I honestly can't believe that because I can't believe anyone would ever buy them. They're a weak value and would be at any price. "20% up to X amount" doesn't cut it for me. It's an unsexy pitch.

    X% for X time? Interesting.

    X amount, maybe.

    It's like saying, "I'll give you two extra tires up to a maximum total of two tires included when you buy my car."

    The bonus XP tokens themselves were even nerfed not long ago :eek::D
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The thing is - several people noticed this Before the patch. I'm not sure how that is possible.
    The reason for that is that the inconsistent Doff values were the result of DR's launch, not any recent patches. It was seen on Tribble before then, and thus was patched over

    But now it's under investigation. It's a bigger job than initially expected, but it's being worked on.

    All of this points to unintentional imo
    Sorry Shpoks, but I don't exactly trust what they're saying.

    When you look at the grand scheme of things to occur since DR released, only one word stands out:

    NERF

    This "unintentional" effect on DOFFing falls inline with everything Cryptic's done since DR.
    I have to disagree; if it was intentional, they'd likely have been silent on it, or even outright admit it's intended. But Bort himself has it under investigation.

    Plus unintentional things do happen, even under Cryptic
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  • theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    My God, is there a single area of this game they HAVEN'T either broken or nerfed with Delta Rising?!?

    I still want my dilithium back. They even cut mirror event dil in half (not the final reward, but the reward per run)
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The bonus XP tokens themselves were even nerfed not long ago :eek::D

    They were nerfed and unnerfed for just 24 hours while the teams were investigating how players were leveling so fast. Temporary nerf.
  • royrogersxroyrogersx Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yeah, same here. I looked at my level bar to see how many points to the next level then collected a mission that claimed it would give me 400, I got over 500...

    What you are looking at is payout vs base. Payout includes doff bonus and any crit bonus calculated off base. So the "Establish Additional Military Bases..." missions have a stated base of 449 xp. This is being reduced to 269 xp base upon success. Then add in a 100% bump from 5 purple doffs and you get 538 xp rather than the 898 xp you should have received. It seems all missions are being hit with an across the board 40% reduction on the base xp. TPTB are looking into it.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    This "unintentional" effect on DOFFing falls inline with everything Cryptic's done since DR.

    The cynic in me, I must admit, finds it *extremely* implausible doff XP just 'accidentally' got nerfed.

    However, I don't think Bort lied. It could simply be, that, whatever global internal multiplier they adjusted, it inadvertently affected doff XP too. I'm willing to assume the latter, for now.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    The cynic in me, I must admit, finds it *extremely* implausible doff XP just 'accidentally' got nerfed.

    However, I don't think Bort lied. It could simply be, that, whatever global internal multiplier they adjusted, it inadvertently affected doff XP too. I'm willing to assume the latter, for now.
    possibly, they've occasionally alluded to using multiple sets of layered data tables for stuff like this.
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