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js26568
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Can I first say that this isn't a rant about the changes to XP or levelling. It's a question about Specialization Points.
Is it worth grinding the 53,000 skill points that are now needed to get additional specialization points after level 60? Using very rough estimates I'd need to kill 150 - 200 ships at elite difficulty to get that many skill points and I'm pretty sure I'd lose the will to live without a clear incentive at the end of it. Is there a specialization that people have found useful? Yes, I know they aren't that important but in the joyless long-winded grind-fest the game has turned into over the last week or so I feel the need to grab hold of any reason I can to keep playing.
Is it worth grinding the 53,000 skill points that are now needed to get additional specialization points after level 60? Using very rough estimates I'd need to kill 150 - 200 ships at elite difficulty to get that many skill points and I'm pretty sure I'd lose the will to live without a clear incentive at the end of it. Is there a specialization that people have found useful? Yes, I know they aren't that important but in the joyless long-winded grind-fest the game has turned into over the last week or so I feel the need to grab hold of any reason I can to keep playing.
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Tha doesn't answer my question at all. Thank you for playing Star Trek Online (tm)
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Just play.
My conclusion: nice to have and take it easy. It will come eventually.
Well its kinda hard to answer since you are weighing the effectiveness of a skill vs the likelyhood that you will reach player burnout trying to get those skills. If you just wanted to know if spec abilities show measureable increases you should have just asked that and left out all the 'but i dont wanna get burned out' stuff. And if you want to know the actual effectiveness of skills and abilities there is a dedicated subforum for game mechanics.
They are not good enough to make you HAVE to get them all as soon as possible, they are good because they allow you to keep improving your character just a bit in a very long run, meaning you can keep playing the game just as you would before DR, but now, every now an then you get an extra tweak.
Cryptic will simply introduce more and more trees as simple means to keep players busy but you can only use 2 anyway. They will like have better stats each time as minor incentive.
You get more XP instead of skillpoints after 60 . I will fill the pits passively at best via doffing and endgame erm doffing!
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After that, fill in the pilot tree. Rock and Roll can be pretty cool, you can see it put to good use in that Wizards of STO video posted earlier. The scimitar you're watching uses it to avoid the AoE attacks just after the group warps in. The abilities in pilot are mainly utility skills and defensive bonuses, so they're not as important.
Commando of course is all ground. The only space bonus is the trait, which is just plain terrible. Stay within 2 km for a really long time, wait forever for it to gain stacks, and then when it finally goes off it'll do a bit of damage. Probably some tiny amount. Oh, and of course the tac team ability everyone and their grandmother uses every 10 seconds clears all the stacks - preventing the ability from having any chance of ever doing anything.
It doesn't take terribly long to get it up, prior to the great spec point heist of last week I was already up to something like 18 just from playing STF's. They dropped me back to 10, and I've already got 15 again. Know which ones are best to play - Borg Disconnected and Undine Assault - the rest give somewhat terrible XP.. Cure for example is only about 1k, though you can do it in about 2 minutes flat. When you're in there just concentrate on kill, kill, kill. Try not to let anything die without getting a hit in on it.
Simple anwser is yes.
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Indirectly, it does.
They're totally worth it, btw. 'Rock & Roll' so far is my favorite (haven't gotten to the higher Tiers yet).
I see what you did there. :P
Some reward more skill points... some less... so its hard to say how many missions you have to play.
With a bit more than 1000 missions this guess certainly is not so far away from reality.
Some people play these missions faster... some slower. Some missions have fixed times. So you also can only guess on how long it takes to finish one of these missions.
But 15mins per mission should be relative realistic (average).
So it would take about 250hours playing PVEs to get that job done.
But like i said... there will be players that disagree with such a calculation.
Some need more time to play the missions... some need less time. Some play only specific PVEs which give better rewards... some play normal PVEs... some know about specific patrol missions that reward way more skill points.
My advice would be not to grind for it... sooner or later you get to that point anyways.
I got 2.5 million xp in a year's worth of casual play. Don't worry.
Short: No
Long: I don't think they are intended to be grinded. Actually if it where not for the ridiculus level requirement on the new missions I'd say nothing above 50 is a requirement but rather intended as optional/additional after max-level progression like reputations had been before their pulled a 180 on those.
Which is also the reason why it take so much SP to raise a point; its not meant to be grinded like the regular levels; its meant as a little something for characters you spent a lot of time with playing.
Edit: And I think that itself is good (besides the previously mentioned req. for the new missions; but I guess who descided on those did not spoke with who made the new progression).
Pilot: Space - Rock and Roll has become an invaluable part of my combat. That's worth grinding, to me.
Everything else so far looks like/has been a fun perk in place of skill points.
Brilliant idea, Socrates.
Pray tell what is there to play aside DR story mission?
Super exciting patrol grind or dead pve ques?
I do love a good bunch of excuses, now we are at: "you don't need to be 60, you don't need specialisation points, you don't need to grind (fast)".
You don't need to play this either and certainly don't need to pay a dime.
In short the answer is no as it's grinding to be able to do more grinding.
And you don't need to be mean about it, either.
Oh believe me I wasn't mean, if I wanted to be mean between Cryptic and their cheerleader squad I would have enough ammo to last me for a week or longer.
Absolutely. Not all of them are worth the unlock anyway. I'm only going after the ones that are useful/applicable to me.
I grinded them on my own with my 25k dps cruiser and I was getting them really fast. They took them away from me.
Apparently I 'play too good/fast' compared to the average player, so I must be cheating according to cryptic.
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Well... I found out the pilot specialisation to be very usefull, since now space combat is just awfull. And is just 15 points and you dont have to take them all anyway. Allways-on passive defence and turn rate, plus more in various situations, are allways helpfull. And as bonus, aside from 4 secs invulnerable to dmg, doing barrel rolls with Rock and Roll skill never stops to be entertaining
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If you don't want to play just for playing sake, dont.
Don't grind.
If the reward was "high enough" then I'd anticapte it eagerly and not feel like I was grinding. If the content was enjoyable, I'd be playing and not grinding.
So if my mind calls the act "grind" then either it is not fun or not rewarding or both. And my time's too valuable to spend on things like that when there are other options that I do find rewarding and fun.