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Romulan (and kdf) dont beleive in science.

nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Romulan Discussion
At least that's what it seems with the new tier 6 ships.

I have been wanting to ditch my dyson science destroyer, and for the simple (and many will probably call petty) reason that i dont like the color.

But looking at the new ships not one of them seems to be geared towards science which is just annoying as the feds get 5 ships.
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  • snowpig74snowpig74 Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I went to an Intel-heavy Faeht. Still trying to figure out a viable build.
  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I have been addicted to my Dyson Recon Sci Destroyer on the RR side. The new Battlecruiser on the same commander feels weak.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    More like Cryptic doesn't believe in the KDF & RR.
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  • autumnturningautumnturning Member Posts: 743 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The reason WHY the Devs haven't figured out yet that an Enhanced Battle Cloak + Intelligence Gathering = PASSIVE Sensors and Commander Science Station for conducting Recon Missions is a mystery that will probably never be "solved" ...

    For right now, I'm just going to go with Occam's Razor on this one and assume ... a Lack Of Intelligence ... :rolleyes:
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rickpaaa wrote: »
    I have been addicted to my Dyson Recon Sci Destroyer on the RR side. The new Battlecruiser on the same commander feels weak.

    dont get me wrong i like the ships power and even its look, but i cant stand the white color and no pattern covers the majority of it.

    But Romulans i have always seen as a tact and sci group While i admit klingons arnt known for their scientific endeavors, Romulans are well known for it.

    And while Kligons are not science guys whose to say other races in the KDF are not, lethians or Ferasans for example.

    what baffles me the most however is that giving us science ships isnt something that would even be a waste of time on their part, cause if done right, i would ditch my FREE event ship and BUY a tier 6 sci warbird.
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  • greendragon527greendragon527 Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    autumnturning wrote: »
    The reason WHY the Devs haven't figured out yet that an Enhanced Battle Cloak + Intelligence Gathering = PASSIVE Sensors and Commander Science Station for conducting Recon Missions is a mystery that will probably never be "solved" ...

    For right now, I'm just going to go with Occam's Razor on this one and assume ... a Lack Of Intelligence ... :rolleyes:

    Well active radar and sonar actually tends to get you caught
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    dont get me wrong i like the ships power and even its look, but i cant stand the white color and no pattern covers the majority of it.
    Have you tried any of the shields that have different visuals? I keep meaning to give that a try just for fun but I have stuck with the dyson shields on my DSD so far.

    While the color doesn't bug my on the Rom DSD, I should try to experiment with the KDF one, because that thing is sooo ugly, hopefully a color change could make it tolerable.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    More like Cryptic doesn't believe in the KDF & RR.

    That's the point right there, and something that more Rom players are seeing the unfortunate light of. The KDF has long played this dance though.

    DR T6 faction releases:
    Feds: 3 intel ships, 2 normal
    KDF & Roms: 1 intel, 1 normal

    To top it off you can see the effort they put into the ship models. For the KDF & Roms, all you basically have is the alteration of wing positions, which is typically 3. That's it. For the Feds, you have 2 to sometimes 4 choices of a different section of a ship to alter. Some have a great number of sections to alter and have those 2-4 choices to switch with.

    And for the DR Pack buyers, you can cycle ships to attain the fancy T6 ship T5 starship mastery traits. A Fed can have in his ship trait bank 5 starship mastery traits. The best KDF & Roms can hope for is 2 due to the very limited Faction ships at T6. Unless you buy the lockbox/lobi at T6, but that's not a faction exclusive thing either. Feds will be able to take even better advantage of that to have even better trait options.

    It's quite biased development.
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  • wilbor2wilbor2 Member Posts: 1,684 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Ive wonted a sci ship for my sci cat for time i know there is the DSD but i hate it my kar'fi is way better.
    Its time the KDF had a aux powered sci ship i love the vesta it fits meny rolls/builds.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    what surprises me is that this limited devotion to KDF and RR are also quite rediclous.

    Why not have these new tier 6 ships come with a uni commander slot?

    although not a perfect solution that way they are useful for science eng and tac.
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  • chipg7chipg7 Member Posts: 1,577 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You could pull off a Ha'nom Guardian as a science ship, especially if it's the fleet version. It has more science seating than the Dyson, with both a Cmdr. and Lt.Cmdr, and the fleet version has 1 more sci console than the Dyson.

    If you're lucky enough to find a R'Mor, that's an option as well.

    Both of those ships are upgradable (the R'Mor is even a free upgrade), so there are options at the 'new' end-game.

    But... yeah, I would've liked to see a little more variety in the T6 ships made available for the Republic and the KDF. I'm sure they'll be adding more ships before the end of the year, so hopefully there's something in the works.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    greendragon527 wrote: »
    Well active radar and sonar actually tends to get you caught

    And I quote Picard in "Insurrection": How about a passive radiation scan?

    Seriously, you can still do passive observations and data feed WITHOUT exposing yourself.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It's more like Cryptic doesn't believe in Science, all they believe in is pew pew.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    given the attitudes of the players.... It wouldn't surprise me to hear that the choice was made based on datamining what peeps play most.
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  • draconir83draconir83 Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I was looking for a T6 Romulan Intel-Science ship as well but oh well, just have to hope it may come out in a future update but I won't be holding my breath.

    For now, I'm still trundling about in my T5-U R'Mor Temporal Science Ship and is surprisingly decent for how I play; a few quirks here and there but otherwise good.

    Now, just don't get me started on the HP of NPC ships in advanced queues...
  • jjohnson1777jjohnson1777 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    I have been wanting to ditch my dyson science destroyer, and for the simple (and many will probably call petty) reason that i dont like the color.

    All Dyson ships will be getting faction specific hull material options soon. They should be up on Tribble now
  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jjohnson1777 wrote: »
    All Dyson ships will be getting faction specific hull material options soon. They should be up on Tribble now

    If it is true , than it look Cryptic sometimes listen own players (customers).
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jjohnson1777 wrote: »
    All Dyson ships will be getting faction specific hull material options soon. They should be up on Tribble now

    And to quote Tychus Findlay in the StarCraft 2 trailer/intro: "Hell, it's about damn time!"
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    It's more like Cryptic doesn't believe in Science, all they believe in is pew pew.

    Case in point: Dauntless :D
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  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Member Posts: 2,617 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This slays me with most of the ships in this game. Wanna be a Rommy? Best hope you like green or brown. Fed? Hope gray and blue are your thing. Klingon? Red. Just red errywhere.

    Would it hurt so bad to make the base hull colorable to even a limited extent? Rommys get it the worst, it seems. There's a totally bad as hell black hull for every ship... For 20 bucks a pop, even for the low level ships.
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,566 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Dyson boat is the only T5 ship I upgraded to a T5-U. My other tac/engi captains are doing the T6 ships. It's sad really but Cryptic making quite a catch-22 with how it's handling Romulan and KDF players. It could make more money but oh well. :rolleyes:
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    At least that's what it seems with the new tier 6 ships.

    I have been wanting to ditch my dyson science destroyer, and for the simple (and many will probably call petty) reason that i dont like the color.
    Petty or not, the next patch will give you access to the standard materials: http://s883.photobucket.com/user/Mustrum_Ridcully/slideshow/Startrek%20Online%20-%20Aves

    I can't keep the name straight, but there is at least one Romulan Science Vessel - and overall, there are just not that many (endgame) ships for the Romulans anyway.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    Petty or not, the next patch will give you access to the standard materials: http://s883.photobucket.com/user/Mustrum_Ridcully/slideshow/Startrek%20Online%20-%20Aves

    I can't keep the name straight, but there is at least one Romulan Science Vessel - and overall, there are just not that many (endgame) ships for the Romulans anyway.

    aye i noticed in the general chat about a few days after i made this i think.

    Im glad there getting it think i can stick with my dyson for now then.

    But i would still like a T6 sci ship for both. :D
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  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    At least that's what it seems with the new tier 6 ships.

    I have been wanting to ditch my dyson science destroyer, and for the simple (and many will probably call petty) reason that i dont like the color.

    But looking at the new ships not one of them seems to be geared towards science which is just annoying as the feds get 5 ships.

    Good News, you can now us all hull mats on the Dyson ships.
  • priestofsin420priestofsin420 Member Posts: 419
    edited November 2014
    I was also really hoping for a new science bird for my romulan captain, but I guess the Dyson will have to work for awhile. At least I can make it resemble an actual romulan ship now.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    Petty or not, the next patch will give you access to the standard materials: http://s883.photobucket.com/user/Mustrum_Ridcully/slideshow/Startrek%20Online%20-%20Aves

    I can't keep the name straight, but there is at least one Romulan Science Vessel - and overall, there are just not that many (endgame) ships for the Romulans anyway.

    Oh, thank you so very much.

    I've been looking for the new regular hull pics for a while. Now I believe I can get the Romulan Dyson pack at the next ship sale (assuming no better alternative comes till then).

    Would anyone know of the KDF (or even the FED) Dyson regular hull material pics?
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  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    toiva wrote: »
    Oh, thank you so very much.

    I've been looking for the new regular hull pics for a while. Now I believe I can get the Romulan Dyson pack at the next ship sale (assuming no better alternative comes till then).

    Would anyone know of the KDF (or even the FED) Dyson regular hull material pics?
    Haven't taken any screenshots but the regular KDF materials make the Kli-Dyson look 1000% better.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    royalsovereign wrote: »
    Haven't taken any screenshots but the regular KDF materials make the Kli-Dyson look 1000% better.

    I would very much hope and expect so.

    It's just a question of how large a bundle I may want to get when it comes to it. As KDF is also very limited on science capable ships (even more limited given many good ships aren't upgradeable), I'd like to have the option of these science destroyers.
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  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Took a few quick screenies of the I.K.S. Hnoiyikar, my Dyson DSD in Klingon Type 0 hull material...
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    I like this shot - it is begging for some P-40 style tiger jaws painted on the nose...
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    royalsovereign wrote: »
    Took a few quick screenies of the I.K.S. Hnoiyikar, my Dyson DSD in Klingon Type 0 hull material...
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    I like this shot - it is begging for some P-40 style tiger jaws painted on the nose...
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    Thanks. I see the engine exhausts haven't been made to match the new materials, but the end result is still far better than the Dyson sphere look.
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    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
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