1 level every 3 hours. Go any faster and we'll roll Yo' azz back to level 50... Good day...
(i'm joking, but still. be careful)
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
Oh for Q's sake are we really going to keep crying about this?
Tau Dewa patrols weren't acting right, now they're fixed. No matter what term you or the devs use, fact is we were taking advantage of content that wasn't working as intended. Call it what you will.
Don't get me wrong, it's still Cryptic's fault - this was a known issue reported on Tribble, and it should have been patched up there. That doesn't absolve us of exploiting it, though.
Cryptic STOLE time and work away from a VAST portion of their playerbase.
They crossed a line, and we're not going to shut up soon.
Yeah I've done a smidge more reading since that post and it seems people who never touched Tau Dewa are getting hit, which is inexcusable.
That still doesn't mean those of us who did do Tau Dewa weren't exploiting a flaw, and it doubly means Cryptic is to blame when all is said and done. They knew about the issue beforehand and they're inadvertently punishing people who had nothing to do with it.
Best way to level without being marked as an exploiter is to avoid getting XP at all. Do. Not. Shoot. A. Thing. Avoid getting XP like the plague. That way you'll be a good, proud and decent player!
That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
I'm surprised they haven't shut all these threads down yet. The only ones they'll keep open will be the ones with the imbeciles fawning over Cryptic's **** on a platter they've given us. Never mind all the liars and cheaters working for the company, only people who play the game are capable of being 'guilty'.
Definitely expect it. "Oh, you don't like what we do? Spam" --delete--.
If you're hoping to get something out of being someone's ***** boy, don't count on it.
You can't even count on two hands the amount of 'exploits' that exist in the game, and yet it's this one thing that they go ape **** on and nerf one of the basic concepts of an MMO, grinding, power levelling, whatever you want to call it. And not only that, but steal the effort of players who spent so much time doing it, even people who weren't doing the patrol missions in Tau Dewa.
Yeah I've done a smidge more reading since that post and it seems people who never touched Tau Dewa are getting hit, which is inexcusable.
That still doesn't mean those of us who did do Tau Dewa weren't exploiting a flaw, and it doubly means Cryptic is to blame when all is said and done. They knew about the issue beforehand and they're inadvertently punishing people who had nothing to do with it.
The fact they knew about it, had it reported on tribble, did nothing about it, then blamed players for using it is the problem. It they hand't known about it fair enough, that's an exploit, the fact they left it unaddressed highlights it was intentional. Punitive measures shouldn't have been considered as it was their fault. If they were going to be punitive on the Spec trees (they already removed the dil for leveling beyond the spec tree) they should have recompensed the players in another form as it was CRYPTIC's fault.
Oh and if a game makes leveling so unrewarding and boring as they have for DR, I'm not surprised people found a way round it. Oddly it was also some of the most engaging and fun gameplay I've had in the game, pugging with randoms who weren't acting like tossers normally do when doing the old Elite STF's, but were genuinely happy and enjoying the game.
Great ****ing PR.
Chris Robert's on SC:
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Its hilarious how all the defenders of this "exploiter correction" say they sympathize for the innocent people that had points taken, but it was worth it to catch those dastardly guys who had max yada yada yada.
Guess what. Tons of people STILL have way more points than they should, and if EVEN ONE innocent person got affected, it was the wrong thing to do.
So its a double whammy of fail.
Innocent people got affected, and not all the "exploiters" did.
How many Starship captains from the shows would have a made a decision like that?
Ask yourself this if you are an innocent person affected by this, which guy with max specialization got to keep it cause I was affected instead.
The fact they knew about it, had it reported on tribble, did nothing about it, then blamed players for using it is the problem. It they hand't known about it fair enough, that's an exploit, the fact they left it unaddressed highlights it was intentional. Punitive measures shouldn't have been considered as it was their fault. If they were going to be punitive on the Spec trees (they already removed the dil for leveling beyond the spec tree) they should have recompensed the players in another form as it was CRYPTIC's fault.
Oh and if a game makes leveling so unrewarding and boring as they have for DR, I'm not surprised people found a way round it. Oddly it was also some of the most engaging and fun gameplay I've had in the game, pugging with randoms who weren't acting like tossers normally do when doing the old Elite STF's, but were genuinely happy and enjoying the game.
Great ****ing PR.
and that's pretty much the main line i'm seeing a lot of
"it was ok to use the exploit because to new stuff is boring"
"it was ok to use the exploit because they knew and didn't fix it"
granted they should have fixed it but I still don't see how that excuses those that used it. if anything it further shows their guilty minds as it was already reported
and that's pretty much the main line i'm seeing a lot of
"it was ok to use the exploit because to new stuff is boring"
"it was ok to use the exploit because they knew and didn't fix it"
granted they should have fixed it but I still don't see how that excuses those that used it. if anything it further shows their guilty minds as it was already reported
Its funny how you conveniently ignore the innocent people affected by this, you dont even care in your war against the exploiters and complainers about those who did NOTHING wrong yet had their TIME STOLEN unfairly, while still many a max spec captain still flies around.
It must be nice living in the world with your blinders.
and that's pretty much the main line i'm seeing a lot of
"it was ok to use the exploit because to new stuff is boring"
"it was ok to use the exploit because they knew and didn't fix it"
granted they should have fixed it but I still don't see how that excuses those that used it. if anything it further shows their guilty minds as it was already reported
And your comment further shows the total ignorance of some people regarding current messed-up situation. Many people (like myself) have lost lots of specialization points despite having not done any TD grinding, while others who leveled their characters and their specializations to maximum didn't lose a thing.
The real irony is that I didn't do any such "power-leveling" before, however unless this bug is fixed or at very least acknowledged, I will likely find myself doing power-leveling just to get back all the specialization points I lost to that bug.
as I see it....knowingly or not ppl were awarded more points than they were supposed to, that has been corrected (supposedly) maybe you should stop seeing it as points "taken away" as apposed to "never had" :cool:
as I see it....knowingly or not ppl were awarded more points than they were supposed to, that has been corrected (supposedly) maybe you should stop seeing it as points "taken away" as apposed to "never had" :cool:
So you're saying they never ran those missions? They never invested their time into grinding? They never paid an opportunity cost by running those missions instead of something else? They never bought XP tokens and ran a strategy to make the most of it?
Basically... the work they did do... just never happened?
It's not their fault Cryptic screwed up. Cryptic has no moral authority to invalidate their work and their investment.
So you're saying they never ran those missions? They never invested their time into grinding? They never paid an opportunity cost by running those missions instead of something else? They never bought XP tokens and ran a strategy to make the most of it?
Basically... the work they did do... just never happened?
It's not their fault Cryptic screwed up. Cryptic has no moral authority to invalidate their work and their investment.
i'm saying if the bank makes a mistake and credits your account more than they should you cant just say " well too bad, my money now" , they correct the mistake and reduce the amount
they ran the missions and got the (now) correct amount of exp, they are just not happy because for a second there they thought they won the lottery
i'm saying if the bank makes a mistake and credits your account more than they should you cant just say " well too bad, my money now" , they correct the mistake and reduce the amount
they ran the missions and got the (now) correct amount of exp, they are just not happy because for a second there they thought they won the lottery
Would it be alright if you while you were at the bank one day to do whatever, it was robbed, and to compensate, the bank emptied everyones accounts who was in there, because they might have been accomplices.
i'm saying if the bank makes a mistake and credits your account more than they should you cant just say " well too bad, my money now" , they correct the mistake and reduce the amount
they ran the missions and got the (now) correct amount of exp, they are just not happy because for a second there they thought they won the lottery
If the bank makes a mistake, and that mistake directly misleads me into making a malinvestment, I certainly think I'm entitled to have those damages covered.
You can't go around costing people time, money and effort; without accepting accountability.
If the bank makes a mistake, and that mistake directly misleads me into making a malinvestment, I certainly think I'm entitled to have those damages covered.
You can't go around costing people time, money and effort; without accepting accountability.
you invested time, you got back a return, just not as much as you wanted
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(i'm joking, but still. be careful)
How about you try posting on the forum without being an instigating troll?
What are you, a dental? Or just Geko in disguise?
Tau Dewa patrols weren't acting right, now they're fixed. No matter what term you or the devs use, fact is we were taking advantage of content that wasn't working as intended. Call it what you will.
Don't get me wrong, it's still Cryptic's fault - this was a known issue reported on Tribble, and it should have been patched up there. That doesn't absolve us of exploiting it, though.
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Why do you need to level? (past 50)
Nothing in this game requires you to level, other than the elite content, do you have all MK XIV gear? Then do not worry about leveling.
A better question is... Why does God need a star ship?
..
Are you serious??
This isn't going away.
Cryptic STOLE time and work away from a VAST portion of their playerbase.
They crossed a line, and we're not going to shut up soon.
Everyone needs a starship
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
This. This is why I am so angry.
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Yeah I've done a smidge more reading since that post and it seems people who never touched Tau Dewa are getting hit, which is inexcusable.
That still doesn't mean those of us who did do Tau Dewa weren't exploiting a flaw, and it doubly means Cryptic is to blame when all is said and done. They knew about the issue beforehand and they're inadvertently punishing people who had nothing to do with it.
I Support Disco | Disco is Love | Disco is Life
Smirk is on vacation, please leave a message at the beep... *beep*
Now go cry in the corner with the Firefall players.
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
Definitely expect it. "Oh, you don't like what we do? Spam" --delete--.
there, my book of illogical statements is almost complete
You can't even count on two hands the amount of 'exploits' that exist in the game, and yet it's this one thing that they go ape **** on and nerf one of the basic concepts of an MMO, grinding, power levelling, whatever you want to call it. And not only that, but steal the effort of players who spent so much time doing it, even people who weren't doing the patrol missions in Tau Dewa.
Who's the real cheat?
The fact they knew about it, had it reported on tribble, did nothing about it, then blamed players for using it is the problem. It they hand't known about it fair enough, that's an exploit, the fact they left it unaddressed highlights it was intentional. Punitive measures shouldn't have been considered as it was their fault. If they were going to be punitive on the Spec trees (they already removed the dil for leveling beyond the spec tree) they should have recompensed the players in another form as it was CRYPTIC's fault.
Oh and if a game makes leveling so unrewarding and boring as they have for DR, I'm not surprised people found a way round it. Oddly it was also some of the most engaging and fun gameplay I've had in the game, pugging with randoms who weren't acting like tossers normally do when doing the old Elite STF's, but were genuinely happy and enjoying the game.
Great ****ing PR.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Guess what. Tons of people STILL have way more points than they should, and if EVEN ONE innocent person got affected, it was the wrong thing to do.
So its a double whammy of fail.
Innocent people got affected, and not all the "exploiters" did.
How many Starship captains from the shows would have a made a decision like that?
Ask yourself this if you are an innocent person affected by this, which guy with max specialization got to keep it cause I was affected instead.
Then ask yourself why are you even still here.
Nice to see a refreshing attitude, in the midsts of a world that is becoming more coldly consequentialist every day.
Cheers.
and that's pretty much the main line i'm seeing a lot of
"it was ok to use the exploit because to new stuff is boring"
"it was ok to use the exploit because they knew and didn't fix it"
granted they should have fixed it but I still don't see how that excuses those that used it. if anything it further shows their guilty minds as it was already reported
Its funny how you conveniently ignore the innocent people affected by this, you dont even care in your war against the exploiters and complainers about those who did NOTHING wrong yet had their TIME STOLEN unfairly, while still many a max spec captain still flies around.
It must be nice living in the world with your blinders.
Blinders, indeed.
And your comment further shows the total ignorance of some people regarding current messed-up situation. Many people (like myself) have lost lots of specialization points despite having not done any TD grinding, while others who leveled their characters and their specializations to maximum didn't lose a thing.
The real irony is that I didn't do any such "power-leveling" before, however unless this bug is fixed or at very least acknowledged, I will likely find myself doing power-leveling just to get back all the specialization points I lost to that bug.
shhhh, you'll break my cover
So you're saying they never ran those missions? They never invested their time into grinding? They never paid an opportunity cost by running those missions instead of something else? They never bought XP tokens and ran a strategy to make the most of it?
Basically... the work they did do... just never happened?
It's not their fault Cryptic screwed up. Cryptic has no moral authority to invalidate their work and their investment.
To carry his luggage. Do you have any idea how many knickknacks and figurines one amasses over an eternity?
i'm saying if the bank makes a mistake and credits your account more than they should you cant just say " well too bad, my money now" , they correct the mistake and reduce the amount
they ran the missions and got the (now) correct amount of exp, they are just not happy because for a second there they thought they won the lottery
Would it be alright if you while you were at the bank one day to do whatever, it was robbed, and to compensate, the bank emptied everyones accounts who was in there, because they might have been accomplices.
Would you keep banking there?
If the bank makes a mistake, and that mistake directly misleads me into making a malinvestment, I certainly think I'm entitled to have those damages covered.
You can't go around costing people time, money and effort; without accepting accountability.
you invested time, you got back a return, just not as much as you wanted