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britalmightybritalmighty Member Posts: 21 Arc User
I love Star Trek....and I loved this game.....(note past tense..."loved")

I am soul destroyed at the changes that make my love for this game fade away. Since DR has came out...everything I loved about the game has been taken away. Cryptic have turned the game into a pay to play game and it's hurtfull.....very very hurtfull.

I have enjoyed role playing and casual gamplay (spending VAST amounts of money on costumes and cosmetics and ships that look the part) to be a part of my very much loved star trek world. BUT since DR...my elite fleet gear kitted out ship cannot hold it's own in NORMAL DIFFICULTY in story missions...I logged in today (after the patch that nerfed NPCS) and it's STILL long winded...dragged out fights that nearly kill my ship in what used to be an enjoyable daily (DEFERI DAILIES). It seems I have to upgrade my ship and gear as my mk 12 elite fleet weapons are still water pistols and I cannot play the game anymore without wanting to throw my PC out the window. The game has become money hungry and difficult and grindingly boring and I cannot sit around for hours just to complete the deferi dailies. I now feel ashamed of myself of spending so much money on ships/costumes ect. I bought FIFTY pounds worth of zen to get ship upgrades/gear ect...and STILL im laughably underpowered and struggling at NORMAL LEVEL...I'm deflated and very angry and annoyed.

There will be players who tell me normal is still easy...but I work full time and long hours...and don't have crazy good builds with great strategy and advanced consoles...but I did have fleet weapons and decent enough that content was fun and enjoyable...and a game I played JUST FOR FUN (sometimes addictive fun)

It took me all week sitting on wether to cancel my sub...after all, I have been active for years (since BETA)...but every ticket, every request for DEV support and every FORUM POST I have made has fell unnoticed. The customer service is non existent and I feel terrible that I'm cancelling my sub...almost like I'm loosing an arm....as the game was such a large part of my social enjoyment. I even booked time off work to play DR..only to wish I had stayed at work and not wasted my holiday....but I HAVE to cancel my sub now...as I cannot afford to keep upgrading ALL weapons, consoles, gear to MK 14 just so I feel like I can play standard difficulty, MY 6 monthly sub was due at the end of this month, but I feel like I'm handing money-over-fist for a service that will take my money....and demand so very much more just to make the game enjoyable and possible to play comfortably.

I'm so very very sad I'm leaving, but the developers only want money and do not care about casual players only wanting fun. NORMAL difficulty should not be so demanding and tough and over powered. Advanced...yeah...maybe. ELITE...deffo...but Normal...normal I used to thrive in....enjoy...look forward to each and every day...but not any more I'm so very sad to say...and I cannot justify my pounds for it anymore. You have killed this game slowly CRYTIC...and you have squeezed so much money out of my love for star trek....
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I will cancel my sub at 1690! More points = I win!
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    yup that is the root of the term "Scum Ball" i am not the ***k alone in seeing the mess continue to rise out of control

    they gotta see how the costumers feel eventually
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  • massamunemassamune Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yup. I'm out too. I haven't been around nearly as long as some of you, but I'm one more paying customer fed up with the incompetence and hostile, predatory tactics taken towards all players of late.

    I've had this account since PWI launched, and played some of PWE's lineup of games in the years since, and this is the end of all of them for me. I won't be treated like this.
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Perhaps you can cancel your sub and still play the game? You could put the saved money towards other purchases (if you wanted).

    You say you've been subbed for 1689 days? Can someone tell me if there is any point to subbing after 1000 days, as I thought you had all the rewards after 1000 days?

    I know if you are a lifer you get all the rewards straight away, but subbing monthly (like I used to) you get the timed release of the rewards, but there isn't anything after 1000 days is there?
  • varekraithvarekraith Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Perhaps you can cancel your sub and still play the game? You could put the saved money towards other purchases (if you wanted).

    You say you've been subbed for 1689 days? Can someone tell me if there is any point to subbing after 1000 days, as I thought you had all the rewards after 1000 days?

    I know if you are a lifer you get all the rewards straight away, but subbing monthly (like I used to) you get the timed release of the rewards, but there isn't anything after 1000 days is there?

    He likely just wanted to support the game.
  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Perhaps you can cancel your sub and still play the game? You could put the saved money towards other purchases (if you wanted).

    You say you've been subbed for 1689 days? Can someone tell me if there is any point to subbing after 1000 days, as I thought you had all the rewards after 1000 days?

    I know if you are a lifer you get all the rewards straight away, but subbing monthly (like I used to) you get the timed release of the rewards, but there isn't anything after 1000 days is there?

    The only gain is the 500 Zen a month. Which is down right a rip off. But some players rationalize that what it is theyre doing is supporting Cryptic and keeping Star Trek Online alive. For no other reason than the Star Trek title.
  • betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    support Star Trek, awesome.

    support lottery scum? nope.
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  • britalmightybritalmighty Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    betayuya wrote: »
    support Star Trek, awesome.

    support lottery scum? nope.

    exactly why I used to sub....and why I no longer will.
    Couldn't have put this better mate
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Before you cancel- make SURE you purchase the bank credit bump, else you could lose everything in the bank in excess of the 10 million cap per toon.

    They changed it recently so that if you revert to silver you lose your gold cap- and they DO NOT offer refunds.
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  • britalmightybritalmighty Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'll keep it free to play (so I can check content after updates) in the hope things change...But I'm done paying for the foreseeable..
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I quit postings are usually not permitted by cryptic. If you have been long enough you would have seen the same "hot" issues of bugs, cleaning so called exploits, nerfing since beta...or 9.5 times. With every new season there are issues and Cryptic still stands the test of time...sorry for those who go but if you stayed long enough you will see the pattern...lots of GOOD people leave...then lots of new GOOD come again...its the cycle of an MMO..goodluck but so glad to see new blood in the game as well :D:D:D
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  • britalmightybritalmighty Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ....And so long as people defend them...unfair cash sinks will remain and things are less likely to improve
  • harryhausenharryhausen Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ....And so long as people defend them...unfair cash sinks will remain and things are less likely to improve

    Yes, how dare Cryptic and PWI want to make a profit on a game. They should charge the absolute minimum to recoup their costs and give us the rest for free, right Comrade?

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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    Well, I'm sorry to see you leave.

    But, the good news is, STO is Free to Play! Come back if/when you feel like it.

    That said, 'I Quit' threads are against forum rules, so this will be closed shortly.
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'll keep it free to play (so I can check content after updates) in the hope things change...But I'm done paying for the foreseeable..

    Glad to hear this isn't an 'I quit' thread. :)

    You could consider cancelling your sub as you have done and stay free to play for a while. If you bought keys and sold them on the exchange you would be able to start buying the mk 14 gear you want, and still save money each month compared to what you were paying.

    I understand the rage right now, but I also understand the pain of giving up on a game that you've enjoyed for over four years.

    Cancelling your sub might end up being for the best.
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Before you cancel- make SURE you purchase the bank credit bump, else you could lose everything in the bank in excess of the 10 million cap per toon.

    They changed it recently so that if you revert to silver you lose your gold cap- and they DO NOT offer refunds.

    That's excellent advice and worth remembering. :)
  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nm

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  • varekraithvarekraith Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Well, I'm sorry to see you leave.

    But, the good news is, STO is Free to Play! Come back if/when you feel like it.

    That said, 'I Quit' threads are against forum rules, so this will be closed shortly.

    I do hope you all at Cryptic realize what's happening.
    Starting to feel like the Jita Riots.
  • blevokblevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The only gain is the 500 Zen a month.

    there's also the xmpp access, which is partially broken since DR launched unfortunately.
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Cookies and milk for everyone, betches!

    "I quit" thread #43 today
  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Had I not purchased a lifetime, along with the other purchases I made I would probably be out too. If I had known what this game was before I began playing I wouldn't have started. Really the last thread that holds me to this game right now are the friends I made in my fleet.
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  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Well, I'm sorry to see you leave.

    But, the good news is, STO is Free to Play! Come back if/when you feel like it.

    That said, 'I Quit' threads are against forum rules, so this will be closed shortly.

    What?

    You have time to answer this thread???
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  • britalmightybritalmighty Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    TACO..thanks for getting back to me...It's a shame I only have a dev getting back to me when I say I'm cancelling my sub however. I'm happy it's free to play (so I can check content) in the hopes of changes. I feel "attached" to my characters...I have nurtured them for over 4 years....so I can't just 'cut tail' and run...but the paid changes...I just can't justify the cost anymore...I don't feel I get any moneys worth.

    That all said...thanks for your kind words
  • cincyman39cincyman39 Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The only gain is the 500 Zen a month. Which is down right a rip off. But some players rationalize that what it is theyre doing is supporting Cryptic and keeping Star Trek Online alive. For no other reason than the Star Trek title.



    Im one of those player's that rationalizes this been a gold member since dec 2010 but as I said in a recent post im dropping it on the 29th of this month (might as well finish out my month) then I'll go f2p.


    I never once cared how long I subbed did it to support cryptic but with all the changes and being punished each time a exploit happens and I am not even involved im done I'll keep my 14.99 a month and play for free I just hope they can get a replacement loyal group of subbers to replace the ones their losing. I love this game and hope it lasts but...I nolonger feel like supporting it.
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    What?

    You have time to answer this thread???

    Well. . . yes. I am in the middle of checking in some work, and thought I'd browse the forums while I wait. . . What should I be doing instead, exactly?

    TACO..thanks for getting back to me...It's a shame I only have a dev getting back to me when I say I'm cancelling my sub however. I'm happy it's free to play (so I can check content) in the hopes of changes. I feel "attached" to my characters...I have nurtured them for over 4 years....so I can't just 'cut tail' and run...but the paid changes...I just can't justify the cost anymore...I don't feel I get any moneys worth.

    That all said...thanks for your kind words

    Again, sorry to hear that. I do know the feeling. I don't get into games quite as much as some of you. Rather I tend to bounce between things more often. So, do as you see fit. If that means cancelling right now, that's fine. I'm pretty sure your characters all stick around in suspended animation, and if/when you want to come back, or give it another go, please do.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    What should I be doing instead, exactly?

    Well....making the Dauntless bridge, ofcourse! ;):D
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  • adorenkoadorenko Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Well. . . yes. I am in the middle of checking in some work, and thought I'd browse the forums while I wait. . . What should I be doing instead, exactly?

    The captain specializations issue, if you would please. Is this being looked into or is this intentional?
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  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    The captain specializations issue, if you would please. Is this being looked into or is this intentional?
    I don't know if you know this, but he's an Environmental Artist. He doesn't do that. Please read his signature and don't be ignorant over his "dev" title.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I love Star Trek....and I loved this game.....(note past tense..."loved")

    I am soul destroyed at the changes that make my love for this game fade away. Since DR has came out...everything I loved about the game has been taken away. Cryptic have turned the game into a pay to play game and it's hurtfull.....very very hurtfull.

    I have enjoyed role playing and casual gamplay (spending VAST amounts of money on costumes and cosmetics and ships that look the part) to be a part of my very much loved star trek world. BUT since DR...my elite fleet gear kitted out ship cannot hold it's own in NORMAL DIFFICULTY in story missions...I logged in today (after the patch that nerfed NPCS) and it's STILL long winded...dragged out fights that nearly kill my ship in what used to be an enjoyable daily (DEFERI DAILIES). It seems I have to upgrade my ship and gear as my mk 12 elite fleet weapons are still water pistols and I cannot play the game anymore without wanting to throw my PC out the window. The game has become money hungry and difficult and grindingly boring and I cannot sit around for hours just to complete the deferi dailies. I now feel ashamed of myself of spending so much money on ships/costumes ect. I bought FIFTY pounds worth of zen to get ship upgrades/gear ect...and STILL im laughably underpowered and struggling at NORMAL LEVEL...I'm deflated and very angry and annoyed.

    There will be players who tell me normal is still easy...but I work full time and long hours...and don't have crazy good builds with great strategy and advanced consoles...but I did have fleet weapons and decent enough that content was fun and enjoyable...and a game I played JUST FOR FUN (sometimes addictive fun)

    It took me all week sitting on wether to cancel my sub...after all, I have been active for years (since BETA)...but every ticket, every request for DEV support and every FORUM POST I have made has fell unnoticed. The customer service is non existent and I feel terrible that I'm cancelling my sub...almost like I'm loosing an arm....as the game was such a large part of my social enjoyment. I even booked time off work to play DR..only to wish I had stayed at work and not wasted my holiday....but I HAVE to cancel my sub now...as I cannot afford to keep upgrading ALL weapons, consoles, gear to MK 14 just so I feel like I can play standard difficulty, MY 6 monthly sub was due at the end of this month, but I feel like I'm handing money-over-fist for a service that will take my money....and demand so very much more just to make the game enjoyable and possible to play comfortably.

    I'm so very very sad I'm leaving, but the developers only want money and do not care about casual players only wanting fun. NORMAL difficulty should not be so demanding and tough and over powered. Advanced...yeah...maybe. ELITE...deffo...but Normal...normal I used to thrive in....enjoy...look forward to each and every day...but not any more I'm so very sad to say...and I cannot justify my pounds for it anymore. You have killed this game slowly CRYTIC...and you have squeezed so much money out of my love for star trek....

    i may as well ask that one question everyon else has their mind on, can i haz your stuff? :D

    one more player wont be missed, the cryptic team have their plan and you should of just left quietly if your gonna do it, you dont need to explain your reasons, everyone has a reason and usually its the same deal, that something in the game is not the same as what brought you to it and now you feel the need to tell everyone else.. if i were in your position i wouldnt care if anyone noticed if i left or not and frankly they dont care nor do they really want to know, so just leave it like that.
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  • tuskin67tuskin67 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    adorenko wrote: »
    The captain specializations issue, if you would please. Is this being looked into or is this intentional?

    He is an environmental artist, he doesn't work on that.
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