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Mystery of the Magic Tau Dewa Nerf solved!
prierin
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After following multiple threads on the subject I believe I (amongst others) have arrived at THE conclusion as to the closure of the Tau Dewa block and yes, it has to do with the exp farming. Yes, it has to do with getting to 60 too quickly. Yes, it has to do with the new specialization tree.
When you hit 60 you cease gaining experience and gain specialization xp instead, which then turn into specialization points you can use to fill your tree. However, once the tree is full and you have no more slots to use your spec xp, you get dilithium free, beautiful dilithium. Currently, as I have read, about 2800 dil per equivalent level.
Why would Cryptic go bananas over this? Because dil can be used to purchase zen WITHOUT giving the company cash. i.e. they created a money sink for their company and are now desperately trying to stop the leak.
It is the ONLY answer that hits all the marks.
The only fix that wont break everything else? Remove the dil rewards from a filled spec tree.
When you hit 60 you cease gaining experience and gain specialization xp instead, which then turn into specialization points you can use to fill your tree. However, once the tree is full and you have no more slots to use your spec xp, you get dilithium free, beautiful dilithium. Currently, as I have read, about 2800 dil per equivalent level.
Why would Cryptic go bananas over this? Because dil can be used to purchase zen WITHOUT giving the company cash. i.e. they created a money sink for their company and are now desperately trying to stop the leak.
It is the ONLY answer that hits all the marks.
The only fix that wont break everything else? Remove the dil rewards from a filled spec tree.
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All of them >.> Allllllll
That's IT? For all the xp it takes to go up a spec point once at 60?
Bloody hell, better not tell them about the hourly rep projects!
isnt that the point of the dil refinement cap though?
First you make a thread telling how you can exploit (yet mention it's not, because you know it is), then you start flooding the forums when you get caught red-handed.
You just can't help yourself, can you.
Yep. Experience to dilithium has nothing to do with this... There are FAR more effective means to earn your 8k dilithium a day... Gaining 2.5 levels each day would take how many hours? Currently it's easy to get 8k in under an hour, I doubt farming tau was that amazing...
Forex, it was totally his thread that got the Tau Dewa patrols shut down. The Devs have no other way of knowing what's going on with their game, and never would have found out about the patrol farming, if not for ... this guy.
Riiiiiight.
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basic problem...someone bought the zen you're buying with dil in the first place, so cryptic already got paid. there would be a problem if no one could make dil then no one would be buying zen = no reason for the zen to be bought in the first place.
zen<>dil conversion is one of cryptics cash points, it has to keep going as it generates income. zen on the exchange doesn't magically appear, someone bought it and posted it because they wanted refined dilithium. all the zen on the exchange cryptic already got paid for.
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No it can't. There's no such thing as free zen. You may not personally pay any money for that Zen you get from the Dil exchange but somebody did. Either someone else bought it with real money, spent their personal time filling out surveys to earn zen (which advertisers pay PW for), or put up their zen stipend from their subscription (either monthly or they put up a large chunk of cash up front for a life time sub). Anyway you slice it PW/Cryptic has already gotten their money for every zen sitting on the exchange.
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No but the Company has nerfed Dilithium in the most popular areas of the game. Its possible theyre worried that this will become overtly popular and Dilithium will flood the market.
Exactly. When it costs more Dilithium per Zen. Cryptic is in a good spot.
Problem is that everything ingame costs so much to upgrade now (literally 100's of thousands of refined dil) that the hit wouldn't have been too bad for a short while until the upgrade cap for everyone had been hit, then the market gets flooded with excess dil, price hits 50 per zen, cryptic cry.
Not to mention those hateful lifetime memberships, which they already stated cost them money...
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Fixed that for you. Seriously. There are like 3 other threads about the Tau Dewa issue on the first page of STO Discussion. :rolleyes:
Interesting.
Everything I've seen them do has been putting pressure in the direction of less dil per zen; not more.
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Let me take one step back on this one.
Who pays cryptic? People who buy zen.
What do they do with zen? Buy Dilithium to get better equiptment.
OK, considering this, the benefit of the company would be to keep dilitium per zen as low as possible, as people need to buy more zen, to buy their precious materials.
What about the other people, who sell dilithium? They have enough dil. They use the zen to buy new ships, keys or what have you. Those have stable prices anyway, so who cares about that?
Does this make sense?
Dont forget the fact that with dil flooding the market all of those paygates like Crafting and Upgrading no longer slow players down. And players are less likely to buy Zen and exchange it for Dil since its so readily available with a short time power leveling.
Neither did I create one nor did I post in any of them. There's no attention to be stolen. Since this thread is likely to be merged with the others anyway you could have just as easily posted in one of the others in the first place.
Why the comment retraction?
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Yeah, the entire game economy should be built around *expecting* players to earn 8,000 per character per day. The cap is in place to make it so that any of these "exploits" have minimal impact.
It could be that they decided to ignore the potential consequences of something like this in STO during development and it wasnt until they suddenly realised that people getting decent xp from mobs 10 levels lower (a problem in itself) that they decided to act before things started to wobble too much. Cap the level difference at 5-6 levels lower than the highest player in a group or just remove the dilitium for overlevelling.
Other panic measures in neverwinter have included locking keys to bind on account status so hopefully they don't take things that far.