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IFF on chained skills needs SERIOUS checking...
rodentmaster
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Ever since pre-loading for DR, IFF checks for chained attacks have been utterly BROKEN.
The magma crawling secondary attack from the wrist lance will always attack members of your own team.
Last night I was shaking my head in wonder as my Iso charge jumped from a bad guy to a FRIENDLY npc fighting along side me, to another FRIENDLY, and back to a bad guy.
Sci ground skill which increases damage attacks to target jumps TO FREINDLY team members and is 100% sure to interrupt anything they do for quite some time until it fades. Try running Defera ground missions where in the city (hard) you have to interact with deferi infected borg. You can NOT free them. You start and your progress is interrupted because the glowing orange nanites do 1 tick of damage. Same for the magma crawl from the wrist lance.
Same for just about every chained weapon/skill I can think of. They target friendlies as well as enemies. It didn't happen before the pre-load, and now it's a constant. It's destructive, inexplicably frustrating when you need to interact with stuff, and it's just plain broken. I can repeat this every day on both ground and space in one way or another.
The magma crawling secondary attack from the wrist lance will always attack members of your own team.
Last night I was shaking my head in wonder as my Iso charge jumped from a bad guy to a FRIENDLY npc fighting along side me, to another FRIENDLY, and back to a bad guy.
Sci ground skill which increases damage attacks to target jumps TO FREINDLY team members and is 100% sure to interrupt anything they do for quite some time until it fades. Try running Defera ground missions where in the city (hard) you have to interact with deferi infected borg. You can NOT free them. You start and your progress is interrupted because the glowing orange nanites do 1 tick of damage. Same for the magma crawl from the wrist lance.
Same for just about every chained weapon/skill I can think of. They target friendlies as well as enemies. It didn't happen before the pre-load, and now it's a constant. It's destructive, inexplicably frustrating when you need to interact with stuff, and it's just plain broken. I can repeat this every day on both ground and space in one way or another.
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Can you name the other abilities you're referencing, so we can build up a few repro cases for internal testing?
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
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These three I can put a specific name to, as I have witnessed them multiple times. I know I have seen it on some others as well but can't put a name to them at the moment. Often it's in the middle of combat and you get annoyed at it but then return to combat to finish the fight.
Also have this all over the Kobali battle zone, which has led me to replace the kit module entire until it's fixed.
This has been like that forever, I always assumed it was working as intended which is why I never use that ability on my sci. Would rather have a science team beam down ability or anything besides infestation.
Second: I should note for the sake of more info and more details: Isometric seemed to affect NPCs when I saw it, though I cannot rule it out hitting players when on teams in STFs as well. The wrist lance secondary fire and the nanoprobe infestation have been almost 100% against players rather than NPCs, specifically. The fireball proc listed above also seems to hit players specifically.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
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-edit- Again, going from memory, but with the kit module in question my team might have had issues with it in the pre-DR KGE in areas where there are no friendly NPCs.
With the grenade, I had my 2 boffs with me on Kobali.
Joined January 2009
No. Only sometimes. Usually with the nanoprobe infestation it has an originator, a target, and a secondary friendly player. I have never noticed it bounce back to the originator, but after hitting the target (i.e. an elite tactical borg) it will bounce to a friendly teammate.
The new Intelligence specialization has some passive placates that could be going off, and the Shard of Possibilities has a confuse when you summon your quantum duplicates).
Joined January 2009
The description of the Tholian Rep power has a warning mentioning this as well.
If you want to test it:
Scramble Sensors + Isometric Charge + 2nd ally near = :eek:
Incite Chaos on ground likely causes bouncebacks too.
Not sure about placate.
Nanoprobe Infestation and Bio-Molecular Incubation are doing it on their own though.
In my experience, this is usually only an issue with friendly, and usually other players, NPCs around.
Colony Invasion is usually a particularly bad spot for me, with a couple of Tactical players spamming Security Escort and the Shard of Possibilities, pretty quickly NI will infect virtually everything, both hostile and friendly. Playing solo however, I've never seen it spread to a BOff or myself after infecting a hostile NPC.
Also the untargetable/invincible floating targets that the Vaadwaur shoot just before they use their spatial charges can also get hit by these abilities, even though it doesn't actually do anything to them.
There was a patch earlier to stop torpedo spread from hitting invincible/invalid targets; maybe the same fix needs to be applied to these abilities?
I agree.. this bug has been affecting the science captain skill "Nanoprobe infestation" for a long time now. I do a lot of ground Dyson Sphere BattleZone and all of my science captains have witnessed the infestation spreading to friendly players/boffs.. to such a degree that i stopped using the skill.. it's is particularly common while fighting the zone bosses..