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ok took the T6 raptor for a spin.

vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,963 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Klingon Discussion
Holy Mother of GOD this thing is busy.
the build is not near optimal

http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=matha_1513

I took it to the tau dewa defense and the thing is a frigging chainsaw. I didn't even use the intel powers.

I barely had to hit sci team, just cycled the attack patterns and facerolled the cannon upgrades.
not I'm off to test drive the battlecruiser
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  • f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This is gonna be my first klingon ship out of the two, in a few days. Glad to hear it is a nice damage dealer, and has some defense.
    My mother always told me to walk away from a fight, The Marines taught me how.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Very beastly ship and I'm not even quite optimized with mine and feel lots more tweaks need to be made.
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  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Take it to a fleet alert, or an advanced STF.

    if you park it, you should be able to take out a 600k hull Heg'Ta in 30 seconds or so.
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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I was excited to buy this ship, but my enthusiasm waned as soon as I learned that the Peghqu' gets a 5th tac console at T5U. I already own a Fleet Peghqu', so taking the free upgrade vs. spending 3000 zen on a Mat'ha seemed like a no-brainer to me. I still want to believe though! Can anyone make a convincing argument that I should get a Mat'ha?
  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    Can anyone make a convincing argument that I should get a Mat'ha?

    If you don't get it, it will probably be YEARS before there's another KDF exclusive ship.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    Can anyone make a convincing argument that I should get a Mat'ha?

    From what I'm told, IT (intel. team) then the T5 rom rep ability can make it effectively battlecloak. There's also the 5 fore weapons thing. (Thought that might not be your thing.)
    rezking wrote: »
    If you don't get it, it will probably be YEARS before there's another KDF exclusive ship.

    There's also this.^^^^
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I wanna know how soft it is. Tho the pew-pew looks good on paper it's gotta be marshmallow if my hardened battlecruiser is getting squashed like a bug.
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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rezking wrote: »
    If you don't get it, it will probably be YEARS before there's another KDF exclusive ship.

    This would probably be my primary reason for buying it at this point (and the Qib).
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rezking wrote: »
    If you don't get it, it will probably be YEARS before there's another KDF exclusive ship.

    This is as good of a reason as it gets!

    Sorry variant37, I can't really tell you anything about the ship yet since I can't get one cause I keep crashing on desktop. :( But I know that as soon as Cryptic makes the game playable again for me, I'll be getting the Mat'ha. The Qib as well.

    It may sound preposterous and it's a sad reality for us that love the KDF with this company, but what rezking said is actually true - we must "do our share" if we are to expect anything good for our faction in the future.

    From what I can tell you as it is - I'll be getting a Mat'Ha cause I wanted a Mat'Ha since I saw the concept art. The ship looks brutal, agressive, very Klingon and that big nose "spinal" cannon just screams "don't mess with me! :mad:". It's also a worthy raptor, finally - 5/2 weapon config, very good Boff seating IMHO.
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  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I haven't tried it yet but if it is as surprisingly good as the Qib is then I will have to try it soon. i really like those Intel powers on the Qib. That's the onyl reason I decided to level this ship before the Mat'ha
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It's not squishy at all, I've got about 62k hull, just shy of 15k shields.

    I'm still optimizing might build, but my fleet mates and I took down a Infected Space Advanced, none of us died because of good teamwork. We completed the mission with 10 seconds to spare, and I pulled 10.5k DPS on its maiden flight, with an engineering captain

    In the Undine space battleground, I was soloing a plant killer, took 4 or 5 lance strikes to Pop me.

    This ship is everything I wish the Mogh was.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I guess now Raptor fans won't have to feel so inferior to Escorts.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    I guess now Raptor fans won't have to feel so inferior to Escorts.

    A few people have said to me they thought the ship was supposed to be a glass Canon,

    My reply, "Yeah, Gorilla Glass!"
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    I was excited to buy this ship, but my enthusiasm waned as soon as I learned that the Peghqu' gets a 5th tac console at T5U. I already own a Fleet Peghqu', so taking the free upgrade vs. spending 3000 zen on a Mat'ha seemed like a no-brainer to me. I still want to believe though! Can anyone make a convincing argument that I should get a Mat'ha?

    T6 > T5u

    While the Vet ships have 5 TAC Consoles now with the KDF & Rom versions with Battlecloaks.

    There is no KDF ship at all, anywhere at any tier, that has the Raptor's very TAC heavy layout:
    5 forward weapons
    5 TAC Consoles
    Very healthy TAC BOFF count
    LtCdr ENG - BOFF space to make your ship hit harder or more survivable (decent 3 ENG Consoles)
    - The Mogh comes close but is straddled with 4 TAC Consoles
    - The TAC Bortasqu' has 5 TAC Consoles but is straddled with terrible handling and "only" a standard weapons layout.

    The Disruptor Console hits very hard and is more useful now since the reduction of console CDs with DR.

    We haven't even seen the Fleet Mahahaha Raptor. My guess it will receive +1 ENG Console Slot.

    The Veteran Ships, if you're already a LTS, are a good bargain. T5u is free and that's hard to ignore. However, the Mahahah is a T6 ship with more room for growth and will receive the Fleet upgrade whenever Cryptic starts doing them (and they will do Fleet T6).
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    God I love this ship! Its everything I wanted from a raptor, the auto - cannon is freaking cool as well ( buy this ship ).
  • kasrkin519kasrkin519 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    i bought it and enjoy it...

    ...but when I compare it to the Contortrix with its better turn and much better shields I get a little depressed (yes, I know it has regular cloak and the intel officer but still...)
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    I guess now Raptor fans won't have to feel so inferior to Escorts.

    I can't complain about the new raptor since it is exactly what we asked for lol.

    Now all they gotta do imo is maybe get us an intel bop sometime and then fix the issue between romulans being able to extend their cloak ambush out so far to balance it out between the kdf for bop usage and then my rants are pretty much done with lol.
  • sinn74sinn74 Member Posts: 1,149 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I really, REALLY like this ship. Even with the same 15 turn as the Qin, it doesn't have the awkward feeling the Qin always gave me (pivot point?).

    I keep saying "I don't need some silly cannon console," then I click it, and change my mind.

    I didn't bother with my usual Hazard Emitters/science team combo, took 2 Intelligence skills instead (one of which is just plain HILARIOUS), and seems as tough, if not tougher, than my Fleet Qin.

    I even have 2 sets of weapons for it. DHC and DBB (for a "weird" build). I haven't even put the DHC on yet, and it's still LOLfacemelt.

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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    She's insanely powerful if you combine a little 8472 and dyson set pieces along with 2-piece honor guard and a full array of energy weapons and 4x energy tac consoles. :cool:

    Your Enhanced Bio-Molecular Photon Torpedo - High Yield III deals 146149 (78303) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Tactical Cube.
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    All I have to say about the MatHa is this.

    Bringing the THUMP, THUMP, THUMP and the BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!!!

    Every time I fire that baby I can just picture a grizzled Klingon warrior wearing cracked goggles, smoking a cigar and laughing like a manic as the ship shakes from the recoil.
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,705 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    I was excited to buy this ship, but my enthusiasm waned as soon as I learned that the Peghqu' gets a 5th tac console at T5U. I already own a Fleet Peghqu', so taking the free upgrade vs. spending 3000 zen on a Mat'ha seemed like a no-brainer to me. I still want to believe though! Can anyone make a convincing argument that I should get a Mat'ha?

    does the Peg get 5 forward weapons?

    oh, and do not underestimate the intel officer. on the Qib, the lcdr transport warhead is really nice. a transported Tricobalt warhead that crits for 10K HULL dps through shields cannot be ignored.
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,705 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Mark said the biggest problems for him with the Mat'Ha was that 1. he is a cruiser driver, and 2. he had so many new powers to deal with he was too distracted to fly right.
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  • generator88generator88 Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If I do eventually succumb to the T6 coercion, this ship will likely be the one I buy.

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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    does the Peg get 5 forward weapons?

    No....but it does have a 11 console slots and a battlecloak.
    oh, and do not underestimate the intel officer. on the Qib, the lcdr transport warhead is really nice. a transported Tricobalt warhead that crits for 10K HULL dps through shields cannot be ignored.

    I really need to dig into the intel powers, haven't paid much attention to them yet. Can you use the transport warhead power with any torpedo? What about the Breen transphasics (including the cluster)?

    Oh....nevermind. Just saw that power is LTC up. Can't use it on the Mat'ha. Anyway, like I said before, I'll likely buy this ship regardless, if only to show my support for the KDF.
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,705 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    No....but it does have a 11 console slots and a battlecloak.



    I really need to dig into the intel powers, haven't paid much attention to them yet. Can you use the transport warhead power with any torpedo? What about the Breen transphasics (including the cluster)?

    Oh....nevermind. Just saw that power is LTC up. Can't use it on the Mat'ha. Anyway, like I said before, I'll likely buy this ship regardless, if only to show my support for the KDF.

    it does not work with the cluster. i suspect any of the specialty torpedos (cluster bioneural hyper beach ball of death) won't transport. gawd if the beach ball did.....


    it does work on the Qib tho...
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  • trygvar13trygvar13 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    All I have to say about the MatHa is this.

    Bringing the THUMP, THUMP, THUMP and the BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!!!

    Every time I fire that baby I can just picture a grizzled Klingon warrior wearing cracked goggles, smoking a cigar and laughing like a manic as the ship shakes from the recoil.

    Funny when I play this beastie I have Aces High from Iron Maiden in mind. This is really the Raptor we've been asking for years. Thanks Cryptic!
    Dahar Master Qor'aS
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    No....but it does have a 11 console slots and a battlecloak.

    Keep in mind what you see of the Mahaha is merely the early, non-Fleet version.

    What the Mahaha will have over the Fleet Veteran Ship:
    5 forward weaps
    5 tac consoles
    13 BOFF skill slots > +1 Console advantage of T5u. Most esp when the Fleet version of the Mahahaha hits and gets the usual Fleet improvements and the console advantage of the T5u ship evaporates. Then the only advantage the KDF Vet ship will have is Battle Cloak.
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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Keep in mind what you see of the Mahaha is merely the early, non-Fleet version.

    What the Mahaha will have over the Fleet Veteran Ship:
    5 forward weaps
    5 tac consoles
    13 BOFF skill slots > +1 Console advantage of T5u. Most esp when the Fleet version of the Mahahaha hits and gets the usual Fleet improvements and the console advantage of the T5u ship evaporates. Then the only advantage the KDF Vet ship will have is Battle Cloak.

    Oh yes, you're correct, but you're talking about a ship that does not yet exist. Right now we can only compare the standard Mat'ha to a Fleet-level T5U Peghqu', and I can see good arguments to be made for choosing either ship.

    But I'm convinced...I need both the Mat'ha and the Peghqu'. My Gorn will also pilot them both at the same time, like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts_PVB5sR6U
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    trygvar13 wrote: »
    Funny when I play this beastie I have Aces High from Iron Maiden in mind. This is really the Raptor we've been asking for years. Thanks Cryptic!

    THUMP, THUMP......BOOOOOOOM!!!

    Thank you Cryptic!!!! You are getting better with the KDF.
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