I know all you Ferengi LOVE GPL, and you happen to have all those Lobi crystals hanging around, so how about you let me help you out by taking a few of those off your hands for some of this latinum I'm not using?
after burning a significant amount of zen on keys for lobi to get the console sets my characters need for their build strategy, I found myself just a few lobi short once all my zen was gone. Doh! yeah, sure, the key value on the exchange is slightly down with the key sale event, but still, I'd like to be able to convert my GPL into Lobi, even if it's only 1 Lobi for 5k GPL.
Sure, this would mean that Technically I could get that 800 lobi ship without buying keys, but if I've invested enough time to get the floor pile trophy, I'd rather get a fancy ship and/or consoles.
[note if the cost of the floor pile trophy were equivalent to the cost of an 800 lobi ships, we're taling about an exchange rate of only 625 GPL to 1 Lobi not the 5k:1 I'm Suggesting.]
to implement it, all we'd need to do is add one item to the GPL stores.....
Actually this conversion pretty much exists in STO if you go back a step.
How do you acquire latinum? Well there's a couple of Doff missions but the most reliable method is the Dabo wheel using EC (so you don't incur any losses to latinum gained.)
So what does that make latinum? By in large converted EC supplemented by a few incidental events and that CAN be traed for lobi via lock box keys (or special promo packages when they're available) bought from the exchange.
That's the reasonable exchange rate ATM and while it would be nice to trade in all that useless latinum in for something else, you could have dedicated the time and resources spent aquiring that pile of bricks on more profitable activities (ex. getting up to level 10 crafting, doffs) that would have allowed you to buy some extra lobi via other means.
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And why not buying lobi with EC?? that will be even better lol. Think on it. Just.. think on it.. :P
When people will understand GPL is an useless currency , 99% of the stuff you buy with GPL is completely useless. Its like trying to compare zen with ec. And even in that case, ec is far from useless.
And why not buying lobi with EC?? that will be even better lol. Think on it. Just.. think on it.. :P
....You can.
EC -> Lock box key -> Lobi
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Well, yes, but still 4 lobi crystals or so for 6-7 milliion ec?? no thanks. Well, i keep saving lobi crystals from lockboxes when i buy one.. but my point was that it is stupid to compare GPL with lobi crystals..
Well, yes, but still 4 lobi crystals or so for 6-7 milliion ec?? no thanks. Well, i keep saving lobi crystals from lockboxes when i buy one.. but my point was that it is stupid to compare GPL with lobi crystals..
That's the exchange rate. If you add in another type of transaction it has to respect the 4 lobi for 2-3 mil ec rate (in order for the economy not to completely collapse in on itself.) So, either it's going to be 1 lobi for 1.6 mil or so, or the lobi cost of every item in the market must be rediculously inflated to match that original rate.
FURTHERMORE, if you add the option to directly buy lobi you're creating one MASSIVE EC sink (as that money essentially disappears from the game, its not transfered between players) which will correspondingly cause massive deflation in its own right.
No, what we have is fine. I'd rather have to save up a bit to buy a Dromias, rather than to buy ANYTHING. :P
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Well, yes, but still 4 lobi crystals or so for 6-7 milliion ec?? no thanks. Well, i keep saving lobi crystals from lockboxes when i buy one.. but my point was that it is stupid to compare GPL with lobi crystals..
Where are you buying your Keys for 6-7 Million EC?
Have I got a deal for you... I will sell you Keys for only 3.25 million EC.
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Where are you buying your Keys for 6-7 Million EC?
Have I got a deal for you... I will sell you Keys for only 3.25 million EC.
My mistake, i was thinking on ship modules lol. Back in the days the 2 things i only considered buying from the exchange were keys and ship modules. So i have in my mind those numbers saved xD (6-7 million a ship module and 2-3 million a key). I dont buy anything now anyways so i dont know how are the prices right now in the exchange.
Well, yes, but still 4 lobi crystals or so for 6-7 milliion ec?? no thanks. Well, i keep saving lobi crystals from lockboxes when i buy one.. but my point was that it is stupid to compare GPL with lobi crystals..
Important tip - the auction sorting is bugged. To get the cheap prices, you need to set sorting to "Descending Price Per Unit".
If you do that, you'll find that keys are selling for 2-2.1m EC. Have been for a while now.
PWE rakes in a mountain of cash from key sales for Lockboxes which is the primary source of Lobi Crystals.(Even if the buyer converted Dilithium for Zen Someone else payed for that Zen)
GPL is the most useless and the most easily acquired currency in the game, with which you can buy nothing worth having. As such it has absolutely no value. There is no way that Cryptic is going to make it possible for people to convert such a garbage currency into one of their primary money makers, but if they did they would put in some kind of extreme exchange rate or daily conversion limitation that is so prohibitive that it would take a long time to accumulate enough Lobi to do anything, That way they wouldn't be cutting their own throats by giving players a way to get Lobi easily without opening Lockboxes.
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lets face it, the crux of this thread is that GPL is almost useless and this is something that should be addressed by cryptic, its high time there was some much better items to buy with the stuff.
when you consider that GPL was the most mentioned form of currency in star trek you would think it would not be so highly underutilised as it is now.
even if you could convert it into EC via a ferengi vender it would be something.
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i think GPL should just be interchangeable with EC. everyone in the quadrant likes latinum. and the federation is so big that everyone also accepts EC. it's like a store right by the border that accepts the currencies of both countries.
but some tweaks to the dabo mechanics may be necessary to prevent exploiters. probably just removing the big jackpots and making it random and not rigged to win.
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How do you acquire latinum? Well there's a couple of Doff missions but the most reliable method is the Dabo wheel using EC (so you don't incur any losses to latinum gained.)
So what does that make latinum? By in large converted EC supplemented by a few incidental events and that CAN be traed for lobi via lock box keys (or special promo packages when they're available) bought from the exchange.
That's the reasonable exchange rate ATM and while it would be nice to trade in all that useless latinum in for something else, you could have dedicated the time and resources spent aquiring that pile of bricks on more profitable activities (ex. getting up to level 10 crafting, doffs) that would have allowed you to buy some extra lobi via other means.
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When people will understand GPL is an useless currency , 99% of the stuff you buy with GPL is completely useless. Its like trying to compare zen with ec. And even in that case, ec is far from useless.
....You can.
EC -> Lock box key -> Lobi
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Well, yes, but still 4 lobi crystals or so for 6-7 milliion ec?? no thanks. Well, i keep saving lobi crystals from lockboxes when i buy one.. but my point was that it is stupid to compare GPL with lobi crystals..
That's the exchange rate. If you add in another type of transaction it has to respect the 4 lobi for 2-3 mil ec rate (in order for the economy not to completely collapse in on itself.) So, either it's going to be 1 lobi for 1.6 mil or so, or the lobi cost of every item in the market must be rediculously inflated to match that original rate.
FURTHERMORE, if you add the option to directly buy lobi you're creating one MASSIVE EC sink (as that money essentially disappears from the game, its not transfered between players) which will correspondingly cause massive deflation in its own right.
No, what we have is fine. I'd rather have to save up a bit to buy a Dromias, rather than to buy ANYTHING. :P
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Have I got a deal for you... I will sell you Keys for only 3.25 million EC.
My mistake, i was thinking on ship modules lol. Back in the days the 2 things i only considered buying from the exchange were keys and ship modules. So i have in my mind those numbers saved xD (6-7 million a ship module and 2-3 million a key). I dont buy anything now anyways so i dont know how are the prices right now in the exchange.
Important tip - the auction sorting is bugged. To get the cheap prices, you need to set sorting to "Descending Price Per Unit".
If you do that, you'll find that keys are selling for 2-2.1m EC. Have been for a while now.
GPL is the most useless and the most easily acquired currency in the game, with which you can buy nothing worth having. As such it has absolutely no value. There is no way that Cryptic is going to make it possible for people to convert such a garbage currency into one of their primary money makers, but if they did they would put in some kind of extreme exchange rate or daily conversion limitation that is so prohibitive that it would take a long time to accumulate enough Lobi to do anything, That way they wouldn't be cutting their own throats by giving players a way to get Lobi easily without opening Lockboxes.
Much as I support the idea that there should be more interesting and varied things to spend our GPL on, zen isn't one of them.
GPL is excellent for things like minor cosmetic accesories (the risian sunglasses) and things of that ilk.
I'd like more of them, ear-rings, hairstyles that sort of thing.
I'd also support GPL being capable of buying things like glossies of Q at the Winter Event.
But zen? No, thats too much for what is an exceptionally easily acquired resource.
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when you consider that GPL was the most mentioned form of currency in star trek you would think it would not be so highly underutilised as it is now.
even if you could convert it into EC via a ferengi vender it would be something.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I remember when everything was "actually" a game feature only for 15 bills a month, thankfully on the 14th, Warlords of Draenor will be lol
but some tweaks to the dabo mechanics may be necessary to prevent exploiters. probably just removing the big jackpots and making it random and not rigged to win.
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