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List of Tier V ships with inferior Hull/Shield modifiers
majortiraomega
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- Ships:
- Renamed Aquarius Destroyer to Aquarius Light Escort.
- Improved its base hull value from 24,000 to 25,500.
- Improved its shield modifier from 0.85 to 0.9.
- Improved its turn rate from 17 to 20.
- Improved its impulse speed from 0.15 to 0.22.
- Added Raider Flanking, allowing it to gain a damage bonus when attacking a targets' rear arc.
- +25% Damage vs. NPCs, +8.33% Damage vs. Players.
- Can now equip Console - Universal - Cloaking Device.
- All seats, except Commander Tactical, have been upgraded to be Universal.
- Renamed Fleet Aquarius Destroyer to Fleet Aquarius Light Escort.
- Improved its base hull value from 26,400 to 28,050.
- Improved its shield modifier from 0.935 to 0.99.
- Improved its turn rate from 17 to 20.
- Improved its impulse speed from 0.15 to 0.22.
- Added Raider Flanking, allowing it to gain a damage bonus when attacking a targets' rear arc.
- +25% Damage vs. NPCs, +8.33% Damage vs. Players.
- Can now equip Starfleet Cloaking Device.
- All seats, except Commander Tactical, have been upgraded to be Universal.
- T5-U versions of this starship will benefit from the improvements above.
- Fleet Aquarius Light Escort [T5-U].
- This starship now has the Raider Starship Mastery package:
- Level 1: Precise Weapon Systems (+Accuracy)
- Level 2: Tactical Maneuver (+Defense)
- Level 3: Enhanced Weapon Systems (+Damage)
- Level 4: Enhanced Weapon Banks (+Crit Severity)
- Vesta Multi-Mission Science Vessels.
- Improved its base hull value from 27,900 to 29,040.
- Improved its shield modifier from 1.35 to 1.4.
- T5-U versions of this starship will benefit from the improvements above.
- Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit.
- Improved its turn rate from 9 to 10.
- Improved its inertial from 40 to 45.
- Added a +accuracy bonus on the Console - Universal - Tachyon Grid to both the passive and active effects.
- The Fleet and T5-U versions of this starship will also benefit from the improvements above.
- D'Kyr Science Vessel
- Improved its turn rate from 10 to 11.
- Improved its Inertia from 30 to 45.
- Upgraded the Ensign Science bridge officer seat to Ensign Universal.
- T5-U versions of this starship will benefit from the improvements above.
The above changes were made to existing Tier V and Fleet Tier V starships. These are great changes, but there are a few other ships that could use a bit of improvement due to their current inferior modifiers.
The following ships have hull or shield modifiers inferior to comparable starships:
- Science Vessel Retrofit/Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit (Hull modifier greatly inferior to the comparable Temporal Science Vessel. This science vessel has a bird of prey level hull modifier!)
- Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit/Fleet Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit (Hull modifier was identical to the Vesta and now inferior)
- Escort Retrofit/Fleet Escort Retrofit (Hull modifier inferior to all other escorts)
- Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit (Shield modifier inferior to all other escorts)
- Heavy Cruiser Retrofit/Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (Hull modifier greatly inferior to all other comparable cruisers)
- Varanus Fleet Support Vessel (Shield modifier is 1.32, inferior to all Fleet level science vessels, despite the fact that the ship is a near carbon copy of the Fleet DSSV)
I know there is little time before Delta Rising launches, but it would be great if these Tier V ship deficiencies could be addressed along with the fixes already made to some of the existing Tier V ship options.
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As for the Sci Vessel, Heavy Cruiser, Escort...those fall into the category of the 200k FC T5 vessels and their Fleet variants, so they were never as good as the normal T5 and normal Fleet T5 vessels. However, with them having modified the Aquarius - it does open the door for any of those other 200k FC boats and their Fleet variants to perhaps get a lil' nudge, eh?
Not sure about the Defiant - are they penalizing it for the potential of the cloak? That's something they've kind of shied away from since LoR...eh?
As for the Intrepid...heh...I'm pretty sure (don't know, but am pretty sure) that we're going to see it getting some love in a blog. On the Delta Rising screen we've got with the various T6 ships...which ship's sitting the middle there with prominence over the other ships, hrmmm?
Varanus got hit w/the KDF has cloak hull/shields nerf...except it doesn't have a cloak....
They could give us a T6 Intel Phalanx instead; with its proper Shield Mod and enjoyable Turn Rate, I love flying that ship at levels 20-29. I've used it past that point, actually, on some KDFRoms back when the choice was using T3 or trying to outmaneuver Elachi in a D'Deridex.
for each, an excelsior station clone, MVAM station clone, and armatige station cloan are all obvious setup choices, maybe with UNI ens. for the bops, make a sci heavy 5 sci consoles and SA QulDun, a 5 fore weapon Ki'tang, and an actual heavy Hegh'ta, with a 3rd aft weapon, 30k hull and .9 shield mod.
and the Varanus, give it a LTC uni and the abilty to use DHC or something. or make some fleet versions of the tier 3 and 4 gorn sci too with vulcan sci and fleet nova station setups. theirs not even a fleet orian marauder ether, and the very WORST offense of all, NO FLEET GURUMBA, EVER. last but probably least, the tier 3 nasican ship, why not make it an aquarius stat clone? a non cloaking raider for the kdf too! what could be more accurate then a nasican ship being a raider?
so much left on the table and thrown out in the dumpster, as far as barely utilized kdf ship models go. come on cryptic, pic 3 of those at least, make it happen these last 2 weeks before tier 5 development is struck dead forever
A lot of the 200k fleet credit ships were Tier V versions of Tier II/III starships. Cryptic completely skipped over their previous precedent by giving a few of these ships inferior stats to comparable Tier V ships....simply because they were refits. The changes to the Aquarius completely blows their argument for keeping these ships inferior out of the water.
Exactly, now even the Aquarius gets a better shield mod and it is a raider with the same console.
One could only hope...
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And while they're at it, make a Fleet D'kyr? There doesn't seem to be much point finally updating the damn thing after all this time if it's going to remain an inferior T5U purely because of the missing console/HP from the Fleet upgrade. As it stands the Fleet Research is just better. Even with the D'kyr's Uni slot.
The Fleet Vo'quv badly needs a universal Lt., for the same reason.