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stolts
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There are three themes I am working on. TNG, DS9 (done), and Voyager (hopefully it comes out in the new expansion). The original plan was to have tactical captain for DS9 theme (Defiant), science for Voyager (Intrepid), and engineer for TNG (exploration cruiser). But in the shows all those captains are tactical.
Is choosing tactical for each theme a good route or would science officers get the most out of flying a sci-ship and engineers for cruiser
I ask cause I'm a theme player (if it wasn't apparent) so stats come second. That does not mean stats don't matter. It just means I don't need to deal 25k dps or survive 10 tac-cubes onslaught simultaneously. If I can bring out above average performance from a ship not optimized for a profession that's good enough in my book. But if its just average and below then it will just make the captain of said theme look incompetent/inexperienced.
There are three themes I am working on. TNG, DS9 (done), and Voyager (hopefully it comes out in the new expansion). The original plan was to have tactical captain for DS9 theme (Defiant), science for Voyager (Intrepid), and engineer for TNG (exploration cruiser). But in the shows all those captains are tactical.
Is choosing tactical for each theme a good route or would science officers get the most out of flying a sci-ship and engineers for cruiser
I ask cause I'm a theme player (if it wasn't apparent) so stats come second. That does not mean stats don't matter. It just means I don't need to deal 25k dps or survive 10 tac-cubes onslaught simultaneously. If I can bring out above average performance from a ship not optimized for a profession that's good enough in my book. But if its just average and below then it will just make the captain of said theme look incompetent/inexperienced.
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
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FYI red in the shows denotes "command" not tactical. In the show most times like Worf on TN was a gold shirt job. Tuvok was also a gold shirt and tactical.
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so yes, tac in a science ship is great. I have a tac in a vesta that does awesome damage with TBR and gravity well mixed in with CSV. I would make an exotic damage build but anything is fine. even a drain build is good because you can drop the shields then alpha.
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks
I think Sisco was tactical, right? I know Janeway was a science officer during her time before commanding Voyager. But what about Jean-Luc was he tactical through and through?
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
Didn't know this either. Thank you as well
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
Science Captains rely on getting shot at with energy weapons for a trait of theirs to greatly increase Science ability damage. The problem is, NPCs need to shoot at you to get that buff. When you have a ton of Escorts, TAC Cruisers, TAC Warbirds blazing away, the NPCs will ignore you and you will not get the buff you need.
OTOH, a TAC Captain can simply pop APA or whatever and go to town with the damaging sci abilities.
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Picard iirc was command track the whole time. Did helm but I could be wrong.
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In one of Q's alternative realities he was a science officer though. He certainly showed a fair amount of interest in the sciences, and I assume that's where they'd locate archaeology.
Can't be on command track the entire time even when you just graduate from the Academy as a fresh Ensign. They all start off in a department, somewhere. But since the shows already had the captains in that rank & role already, they barely covered anything about the early careers and exactly what they did.
Very sure Picard was science (blue) before going to command (red)
I mean heck, in many alternate timelines/futures, Dr.Crusher commands her own ship, so she obviously was able to do so despite having her primary career be in medicine.
So, don't worry about theme too much, you'll give yourself a headache
Actually it is possible. Helm and a few other positions on a ship are considered command track. Boat bay aka shuttle bay officer is command, navigation iirc is also a command slot.
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As for matching the captains' specialties from the shows, Janeway was deff science, Sisko was actually an engineer ( http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Benjamin_Sisko ), and Picard was at least interested in science. According to Q he would have been science if he didn't pursue command. On the Stargazer as Lt. Commander he was a helmsman, which is already in the command red. So Picard is really your oddball. Class wise he would probably be best imitated with science, but he never really pursued it like Janeway did, so I'd argue you could just pick what you wanted and invest heavily in Diplomacy Cxp to mirror him.
All that said, I too base my colors on the show, not the class defaults. So since Commander on I'm always in red, followed by red/silver or red/gold after hitting admiralty.
funny how kirk, Sulu and Chekov, who were all COMMAND officers, wore gold, and Uhura, Scott, and the ensign doomed to die of the week wore red...
in TOS there were Command (including tactical) Science, Medicine, Engineering and Operations
TNG streamlined it to Command, Operations and Sciences.
in TNG land Command officers were basically Helm/Conn/Ops. Tactical had been split off to Security, part of ops. the only reason Data sat at the ops station is because of Brent Spiner's back. he could not stoop over a scope like Nimoy did, and he didn't wear blue because it looked hideous with his makeup (which was suppose to be more golden)
nope Picard was in science in the alter universe where he didn't fight the naussican. in the Binar episode he states, "It's been a while since i took the helm, but fear not" indicating in the Prime universe he was command track.
since kirk and Picard were command track the varied with Sisko, (engineering) and Janeway (science)
Oh, and Geordi was command track and jumped to engineering.. (He wore red in the first season) Ditto Worf.
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Wesley Crusher wore Red and he was not Command.
Worf originally wore Red and when he was promoted to Command he changed to Gold.
Data is 3rd in the entire command chain and wears Gold.
The uniform colors on Star Trek have been inconsistent from day 1. I have given myself a headache trying to figure it out over the years.
On Topic: I am currently playing an Alt who is a Tac in a Science Ship, and I really like it. Definitely does some good damage, absolutely a viable option.:D
How are engineering captain's in escorts? I can only speculate that they are better at surviving. But what about damage/dps?
And if you are a Flag officer (rear admiral and up) the white shoulder becomes black right?
The Science Captain's ability Sensor Scan debuff's DR in a radius around the target so wouldn't the damage of Gravity Well III be just as good as using Attack Pattern Alpha?
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
^ this...plus Janeway was a Science officer and Sisko was a Engineer...don't recall what Picard was except in a alternate version of his life that Q showed him he was a Science Officer.
Actually you are wrong. Sisco actually explains this in the episode where the defiant goes back in time to the trouble with tribbles episode.
In TNG and beyond this is the color breakdown.
Red= command
Gold= operations in engineering, security, tactical. Remember Worf and Tuvok both wore gold and were both tactical and security chiefs. Yet every captain we see after TNG are wearing. ...RED.
Red is command color. Don't believe me check memory alpha. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Starfleet_uniform
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I have no idea, I haven't done a DPS comparison between the two. I just went with the Tac because honestly, they seem more useful then Science Officers. Right now I'm just playing around it, I haven't done high level DPS comparisons between professions.
Thanks for replying. It will come out sooner or later lol.
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.