It's about being considerate, not that I expect you to understand that.
wow, it's gotta be nice not having to get someone's permission before you stab them in a wrestling match.
See? I can make stupid analogies too. Don't ridicule other people's points of view.
I think the point was more... at this point who cares.
There isn't any one of us that isn't all p2wned up.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating a TIF while chasing a Xindi scort with a full accx3 elachi set and every pay trait they can cram in ?? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating TIF around a carrier spitting yellowstones or beta 3 throwing pets out of there lockbox carrier ? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about chasing a bug ship with 50% up time evasive manuvers and OMEGA 3 up the other 50% ... and activating TIF ? nope.
How about another wells running TBR and TIF as well... No I can tif them guys.
How about a Cstore Patrol with every lobi Crit console they can muster, and 200 mil ec worth of lockbox traits ? Nope there TIF bait. lol
Really with everything going on in the game... TIF isn't even that bad anymore. It just took a year or so of power creep for me to say that. TIF ? not the worst thing out there really. At least for now they are forced into a bad beam and a almost unusable torp for pvp. Come Delta when people can make there lobi sets gold... I don't know perhaps it will be more annoying, then again with all the new WTF stuff coming at the same time I'm sure it still won't be any more broken then the what everyone else is running.
I think the point was more... at this point who cares.
There isn't any one of us that isn't all p2wned up.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating a TIF while chasing a Xindi scort with a full accx3 elachi set and every pay trait they can cram in ?? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating TIF around a carrier spitting yellowstones or beta 3 throwing pets out of there lockbox carrier ? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about chasing a bug ship with 50% up time evasive manuvers and OMEGA 3 up the other 50% ... and activating TIF ? nope.
How about another wells running TBR and TIF as well... No I can tif them guys.
How about a Cstore Patrol with every lobi Crit console they can muster, and 200 mil ec worth of lockbox traits ? Nope there TIF bait. lol
Really with everything going on in the game... TIF isn't even that bad anymore. It just took a year or so of power creep for me to say that. TIF ? not the worst thing out there really. At least for now they are forced into a bad beam and a almost unusable torp for pvp. Come Delta when people can make there lobi sets gold... I don't know perhaps it will be more annoying, then again with all the new WTF stuff coming at the same time I'm sure it still won't be any more broken then the what everyone else is running.
I think the point was more... at this point who cares.
There isn't any one of us that isn't all p2wned up.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating a TIF while chasing a Xindi scort with a full accx3 elachi set and every pay trait they can cram in ?? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating TIF around a carrier spitting yellowstones or beta 3 throwing pets out of there lockbox carrier ? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about chasing a bug ship with 50% up time evasive manuvers and OMEGA 3 up the other 50% ... and activating TIF ? nope.
How about another wells running TBR and TIF as well... No I can tif them guys.
How about a Cstore Patrol with every lobi Crit console they can muster, and 200 mil ec worth of lockbox traits ? Nope there TIF bait. lol
Really with everything going on in the game... TIF isn't even that bad anymore. It just took a year or so of power creep for me to say that. TIF ? not the worst thing out there really. At least for now they are forced into a bad beam and a almost unusable torp for pvp. Come Delta when people can make there lobi sets gold... I don't know perhaps it will be more annoying, then again with all the new WTF stuff coming at the same time I'm sure it still won't be any more broken then the what everyone else is running.
Luckily there is no team running 3 temporals with TIF and PG trait, and 2 xindi escorts with full Elachi acc3 and lockbox traits
Cryptic needed to make the Scryer look good...a dauntless task, no doubt.
Thus...the Dauntless. :P
At least the Raptor and Cruiser look good.
The raptor's trait sound pretty nice and could give the undine torp a good boost (since it has been nerfed before). Btw. does the new neutronic (or whatever it's called) torp on tribble have a targetable HY?
5 fixed tac slots is never a good sign, but at least it got SA back and a secondary deflector ...
You mean 5 TAC BOFF slots?
Like i expected this is a hybrid vessel. Similar to Dyson except for switching TAC/SCI mode.
BOFF layout seems fine to me, this will be nice partigen-torpedo ship for tac captains.
the Dauntless in its current state is epic fail. Trying to be tac and sci all at once leads to nothing.
well we knew it was going to be tac heavy lol
I think it's fine, not every ship needs to be for PvP, even it's console screams PvE (unless it makes your team mates targetable then well...)
What we're getting is a sci vesta with locked in powers in a tac heavy configuration and +1 science power. It's just how a lot of people run their vesta in pve. I'm sure the fleet version will get an extra tac console. lol
besides, if it gets a universal Lt station then it's just going to be used for engineering to fit some A2B setup with doffed/traited TBR because it's the current meta and it would be good at it.
That ship came out to satisfy the childish needs of one person, and that is Gecko. He's the only one who's excited about his Voyager ride.
I have no issues with them going back to the delta quad story wise. It is a good logical place to go.... its also a way for us to get trek in this time frame with out Cryptic completely pulling everything out of their backsides. This after all isn't TOS or even TNG online.
My only issue is no doubt someone at Cryptic has written all of this... and its going to be complete amateur hour. I wish it wasn't so, and I know in general the story doesn't make all that much difference to me as a PvPer. As a trek lover though watching them mangle the writing on there missions is painful to watch. The quality of the written at Cryptic hasn't always been so bad. I don't know if there just to cheap to hire quality writers or if quality writers don't want to be involved. lol Either way my prediction is the delta story will have a few good ideas, and a ton of really bad writing and actors who sound like they fully know it.
we both left feedback to that extent, hopefully they listen.
but ya, its a POS unless they make that LT tac it has universal
Having no uni slots... that would be a pretty logical change. I have to agree with everyone on this one. With that setup its just not very good. Won't be much use in PvP... in PvE I can't see that it would be all that great either. On a sci ship there is just no use for more then 3 tac boff slots. I mean if it was more escort then sci ship and had 4 fore and could equip cannons or something then perhaps ok...
As it is though full on sci ship... its just going to suck.
There is always the possibility there saving the Uni conversion for a Fleet version double dip. lol
The people who yelled about Sci vessels not doing enough DPS and how the Scryer was awful because it had too little Tac got exactly what they demanded. No matter that a lot of them were doing it wrong anyway.
The people who yelled about Sci vessels not doing enough DPS and how the Scryer was awful because it had too little Tac got exactly what they demanded. No matter that a lot of them were doing it wrong anyway.
they really should just put a disclaimer on sci ships, to inform the pve masses that sci ships are not pve ships
they really should just put a disclaimer on sci ships, to inform the pve masses that sci ships are not pve ships
They are though if you do it right. My sci wells or pallisades these days are easily stomping STFs down harder then anything else I fly. Come delta sci ships are pretty much going to be required to get optionals on the new STF in hardcore mode (what ever there calling it now).
They are though if you do it right. My sci wells or pallisades these days are easily stomping STFs down harder then anything else I fly. Come delta sci ships are pretty much going to be required to get optionals on the new STF in hardcore mode (what ever there calling it now).
aren't escorts that can spam GW and whatever else usually ran in NWS the same thing+ weapons DPS?
Wow the dauntless went from the one thing in delta rising I was really excited about...to wishing I never looked at the boff seating so I would still have a few more weeks of being excited for nothing. Great.
As for the pve stuff with sci ships in DR, yeah 5 PM ships (wells/palisades) is going to utterly embarrass borg disco elite at 60. Pandas have been trying to get it going but not many of us are over there yet. The timer on the last 3 ships isn't an issue when 5 ships use iso cannon > tif > iso cannon then tbr the last mob down. If they nerf Iso cannon then I will say faw boats would be superior, but as it stands PM + tbr/gw + sci ship just seems to buffer that no one can die problem associated with some of the more glass cannon faw builds.
aren't escorts that can spam GW and whatever else usually ran in NWS the same thing+ weapons DPS?
Some NPCS like the Voth city ships have to much shielding for those blasters. Sci Faw will be the only way to drop them fast enough to claim the big rewards. (Or at least that is what I am hearing from friends that have been testing)
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Sounds rather like the M60 and the SA80!
It's about being considerate, not that I expect you to understand that.
wow, it's gotta be nice not having to get someone's permission before you stab them in a wrestling match.
See? I can make stupid analogies too. Don't ridicule other people's points of view.
I think the point was more... at this point who cares.
There isn't any one of us that isn't all p2wned up.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating a TIF while chasing a Xindi scort with a full accx3 elachi set and every pay trait they can cram in ?? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about activating TIF around a carrier spitting yellowstones or beta 3 throwing pets out of there lockbox carrier ? nope.
I'm I going to feel bad about chasing a bug ship with 50% up time evasive manuvers and OMEGA 3 up the other 50% ... and activating TIF ? nope.
How about another wells running TBR and TIF as well... No I can tif them guys.
How about a Cstore Patrol with every lobi Crit console they can muster, and 200 mil ec worth of lockbox traits ? Nope there TIF bait. lol
Really with everything going on in the game... TIF isn't even that bad anymore. It just took a year or so of power creep for me to say that. TIF ? not the worst thing out there really. At least for now they are forced into a bad beam and a almost unusable torp for pvp. Come Delta when people can make there lobi sets gold... I don't know perhaps it will be more annoying, then again with all the new WTF stuff coming at the same time I'm sure it still won't be any more broken then the what everyone else is running.
Fair enough.
He needs to improve his communication.
Luckily there is no team running 3 temporals with TIF and PG trait, and 2 xindi escorts with full Elachi acc3 and lockbox traits
Oh wait....
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Hm, yeah .. seems sh*t.
5 fixed tac slots is never a good sign, but at least it got SA back and a secondary deflector ...
Thus...the Dauntless. :P
At least the Raptor and Cruiser look good.
The raptor's trait sound pretty nice and could give the undine torp a good boost (since it has been nerfed before). Btw. does the new neutronic (or whatever it's called) torp on tribble have a targetable HY?
You mean 5 TAC BOFF slots?
Like i expected this is a hybrid vessel. Similar to Dyson except for switching TAC/SCI mode.
BOFF layout seems fine to me, this will be nice partigen-torpedo ship for tac captains.
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well we knew it was going to be tac heavy lol
I think it's fine, not every ship needs to be for PvP, even it's console screams PvE (unless it makes your team mates targetable then well...)
What we're getting is a sci vesta with locked in powers in a tac heavy configuration and +1 science power. It's just how a lot of people run their vesta in pve. I'm sure the fleet version will get an extra tac console. lol
besides, if it gets a universal Lt station then it's just going to be used for engineering to fit some A2B setup with doffed/traited TBR because it's the current meta and it would be good at it.
we both left feedback to that extent, hopefully they listen.
but ya, its a POS unless they make that LT tac it has universal
I have no issues with them going back to the delta quad story wise. It is a good logical place to go.... its also a way for us to get trek in this time frame with out Cryptic completely pulling everything out of their backsides. This after all isn't TOS or even TNG online.
My only issue is no doubt someone at Cryptic has written all of this... and its going to be complete amateur hour. I wish it wasn't so, and I know in general the story doesn't make all that much difference to me as a PvPer. As a trek lover though watching them mangle the writing on there missions is painful to watch. The quality of the written at Cryptic hasn't always been so bad. I don't know if there just to cheap to hire quality writers or if quality writers don't want to be involved. lol Either way my prediction is the delta story will have a few good ideas, and a ton of really bad writing and actors who sound like they fully know it.
Having no uni slots... that would be a pretty logical change. I have to agree with everyone on this one. With that setup its just not very good. Won't be much use in PvP... in PvE I can't see that it would be all that great either. On a sci ship there is just no use for more then 3 tac boff slots. I mean if it was more escort then sci ship and had 4 fore and could equip cannons or something then perhaps ok...
As it is though full on sci ship... its just going to suck.
There is always the possibility there saving the Uni conversion for a Fleet version double dip. lol
100% right.. :mad:
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they really should just put a disclaimer on sci ships, to inform the pve masses that sci ships are not pve ships
They are though if you do it right. My sci wells or pallisades these days are easily stomping STFs down harder then anything else I fly. Come delta sci ships are pretty much going to be required to get optionals on the new STF in hardcore mode (what ever there calling it now).
aren't escorts that can spam GW and whatever else usually ran in NWS the same thing+ weapons DPS?
As for the pve stuff with sci ships in DR, yeah 5 PM ships (wells/palisades) is going to utterly embarrass borg disco elite at 60. Pandas have been trying to get it going but not many of us are over there yet. The timer on the last 3 ships isn't an issue when 5 ships use iso cannon > tif > iso cannon then tbr the last mob down. If they nerf Iso cannon then I will say faw boats would be superior, but as it stands PM + tbr/gw + sci ship just seems to buffer that no one can die problem associated with some of the more glass cannon faw builds.
Some NPCS like the Voth city ships have to much shielding for those blasters. Sci Faw will be the only way to drop them fast enough to claim the big rewards. (Or at least that is what I am hearing from friends that have been testing)
Which is a shame. To be honest I was hoping to pick one up just so I could name it the Desjani
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