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Official New Delta Quadrant Mission "Friends in Unlikely Places" Thread
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Please post all feedback and bugs for "Friends in Unlikely Places" in this thread.
Delta Quadrant Mission Content!
Known Issues:
Delta Quadrant Mission Content!
- Friends in Unlikely Places
- This mission follows Reunion.
Known Issues:
- Newly released content such as Borg: Disconnected, Mindscape, Escalation, Reunion, and Friends in Unlikely Places are not in a final state.
- This includes Cutscenes, text, rewards, and art are not in a final state for this mission.
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a few things, during the pop up messages on the side you see this zoomed out picture of this man in blue and red, clearly substituting for kazon and kobali. the hugh face needs another pass through the tailor, face looks very fat for hugh. this is hugh and please note the borg devices around the head.
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Its a longer mission , its nice to see many "friends"
But
Wanted : When you take it. In total its 7 Wawes of enemies. Yes you get help . But still for total ammount of time for whole the mission . its really long . Would decrease the number from that second phase from 5 to 3 .
Ocampas : Got little issues with hirogen there ? I dont know they hunt the prey, but gathering resources in location where they were ? Dont know, i would put kazon there. These would be desparate for any resources. Not Hirogen .
Jarlet system . - Love meeting old friend from TNG .) Just thing here. keeping it alive was one thing, but people will be carefull. Just climbing percentage was kinda weird. You propably got 30 percent ship will give you more saved crew. But with people often with really high dps . this part of 4 part mission is taking long time . I would set in stone for EXAMPLE. CUBE 15 percent of crew what hugh need . sphere 10 . Probes like 4 . And destroyed ships by any chance like 1/2 or 1/3 of normal stat .
Battlefield : ok with that. Valuable resources. Hirogen waiting here for a pray makes sense
I was delighted to meet Hugh, but I'm sad, that the dialogue options didn't reflect in any way, that my Captain is a Liberated Borg as well, in this case in particular, with a Liberated Borg crew. This is, I feel one of the things, which I miss, and it has been prelevant 'issue', even for the past missions, where it just doesn't reflect your species choice in any way, where it'd make sense. (Anyone remember mission "Doomsday machine"... even when your character is a Klingon, it just doesn't reflect it in any way.. you know what I mean)
Loved the part with liberating more Borg though.
The mission is a bit on a longer side - which I personally don't mind... also, getting 1k exp's for each destroyed Kazon cruiser is maaaybe a bit of an overkill.
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Wanted is to long, scaled back in the second face to 3 would be better,
Ocampa: hirogen does not feel right, it bugs me quite a bit, there not resource gatherers there hunters. The kazon would be better cause there always desperate for resources.
The delta quadrant is in more chaos apparently after 35 years its stands to reason that many factions would be low on resources! including the hirogen but for that missions it does not feel right to me!
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fun seeing hugh again, and that odd ball borg ship. a mission were you had to disable and capture was refreshing compared to your typical slaughter them all mission. though those borg need bugged, it was actually really hard not to kill them
that borg battlefield and the ocompa freighter parts just felt like they were missing some additional component that would have made them more interesting
Agreed with the others who think Wanted is too long. the Dialogue is nice, so just speed it up so we get all of it over two less waves. Also maybe not spread it out so much.
Also the TOS Phasers for Kazons was PERFECT. Its nice to hear that SFX and it reminds you that the Kazon are using out of date tech.
Also get Tuvok into his Odyssey Uniform on ALL of these missions please.
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I hope different Kazon sects have access to different technology; for example the Kazon-Ogla had proton weaponry at their disposal. It would seem appropriate that they'd have stolen and adapted differing technologies over the decades trying to out do one another.
Commanding Officer: Captain Pyotr Ramonovich Amosov
Dedication Plaque: "Nil Intentatum Reliquit"
Argala System:
- Nice mission/story. Not too long, not to short.
The Kazon are in general nice.
Very good: They take a little more of a beating than ships of other races. Carriers are a nice idea for them!
Rather bad: They absolutely do not pack a punch. I healed my ship with the Valdore console just by firing at them. They barely do damage. Give them some more oomph!
Looks: The models and general design is nice, the hull of the ships looks rather bland and devoid of detail. I liked the older style Phaser SFX for them, someone pointed that already out.
Jarleth System:
Nice Cooperative Flagship. Re-Assimilating or rather stopping the Borg from doing so is nice.
The challenge of this mission is to not insta-kill the ships. My Fleet Dhelan killed almost all probes, the other ships were also difficult to assimilate below 30%. We are just too strong and our enemies too weak.
BUG: When I tried to set my weapons power to lowest possible, the special weapon tray icon completely disappeared. This also happens in STFs with such temporary special powers. I use Tray configuration #3 with Bridge Officers hidden, if you just touch a power slider and move it notch up/down, the special tray with the borg weapon and similar things for other missions completely disappears.
I liked this mission, it takes a lot more time than the rest though.
Borg Battlefield:
In the systems list its listed as "The Battlefield", make the names identical please.
Good looking debris! No kidding, nice debris!
Hirogen: They used their jam sensor and tractor abilities nicely, but were too few and too weak. You can send in a lot more of them, really.
Ocampa Freighter:
Cannot be located via systems menu, but it's nice to navigate manually in a while.
The ships appeared only after I hit a VERY tiny spot in space -> not good.
Suggestion: Allow people to click the mission to auto-navigate from system to system, including the spot for the freighters or at least make it bigger and better visible.
The BACKGROUND of the system was brownish, that seems to be a Delta Quadrant theme, and that's okay. But too many stars somehow, it was rather distracting to look at. Dunno how other players feel about this. Was also quite uniform in appearance regardless where you looked, so not really serving orientation well.
The enemy mobs could use a buff, other than that it was very nice.
I very much liked this patrol mission sequence. I would wish for the older STO missions of this kind to become repeatable, too.
for me Borg Battlefield I got no signatures at debris 3 while it should have been on #4.
And at "Wanted" right when I entered the System I got the text that Maje Culleh is in custody, which was clearly not the case.
Also you maybe want to make a cooldown or sth. for this Mission. I flew right back in the System again after finishing and it restared the Mission. Luckily I had not to repeat it.
After finishing the Borg battlefield mission, I didn't let me warp out when selecting the option in the dialog-window but had to use the icon right of my minimap.
All in all I realy enjoyed the mission!
Borg Battlefied: second fight with the probes was a bit too easy. They didn't seem to want to attack me. Also, the dialog about "Race X" smashing a tacitcal cube to pieces was glossed over. Maybe a bit more back ground BOFF speculating on the power needed, what sort of weapon etc. But generraly good.
Hugh and freeing the borg: agree with the rest of the comments here about the % increases being quite random. The ships are easy to destroy, but I think that's a good thing for us to learn a new skill in not killing everything we see.
The other two sections were ok and varied.
Jarleth:
1) I gather the Borg to be mangeable for solo players, and also to disincentivize the ludicruously high DPS builds that the playerbase has been gravitating to. But the Probes were like crepe paper - and I'm in a Science Vessel. After a little practice with timing the Viral Array, it was still painfully easy to destroy a ship before converting it. Consider ditching the Probes all together, or at least providing sufficient respawns to minimize player failure.
Argala:
1) What's with the Retro Phaser sound effects? Is that intentional? I'm guessing it's tied to the Benthan ships? Honestly, I found it a little distracting.
2) Seeing as how Culluh was really the only recurring Kazon character that we got to know, it might be nice to see what kind of trouble he's gotten up to these past couple of decades. At least I assume we'll be finding out at some point - otherwise, his cameo here seemed kind of throwaway.
Battlefield:
1) Alert, but no enemy spawns at Debris Field 4. Still progressed and completed just fine, though.
Ocampan Convoy:
1) That was silly easy. In some ways, it might make sense to use this mission as a reintroduction to the Kazon, since the combat is substantially lighter than in Argala. Which is saying something.
2) Locating the convoy was only slightly more of a challenge than the Deferi and Breen patrols in Orellious. The locator reticle on the mini-map couldn't have been more wrong, however.
Summary:
Not clear about the other mission options - probably incomplete yet. Is it randomized (ala Reunion)?
A reasonably lightweight reintroduction to the Delta Quadrant narratively and thematically - though it's weird that it comes after 'Mindscape' in that regard. Were it me, I would consider reversing the order of all of these: 'Friends in Unlikely Places', 'Reunion', 'Mindscape'.
-EDIT- Anyone else unable to replay this one?
Could the Kazon "phasers" be given a more appropriate sound effect. The Kazon carrier seems weirdly small. The ship could do with being increased in size, maybe not the 1800 meters it was meant to be, but a hefty increase would make it feel more imposing.
Also, are the Borg Cooperative ship hull textures final? They seem oddly under finished, especially when compared to the hull detail "Hugh's" ship model had in TNG. Interestingly enough, the dull silver hull and bluish internal glows remind me of ILM's publicity shot for the Borg Cube in "First Contact".
Commanding Officer: Captain Pyotr Ramonovich Amosov
Dedication Plaque: "Nil Intentatum Reliquit"
but that is only a guess as i have not ground to level 51 yet and have only see youtube play throughs of the mission
The Kazon are CLEARLY not as developed as the Federation in 2409, which is evidenced by them using TOS-era phasers on their ships. So WHY are they not only at equal level with my Level 51 ship but they've got 80,000 hit points on their Hull???
Didn't like initial dialogue essentially saying "Hey, there are Kazons and Benthans fighting. Let's kill the Kazons." It was too abrupt and unwise; we don't know how the situation is changed. Now, if we were able to identify them as Kazon-Nistrium, which I believe Neelix said had been harassing his Talaxians, that would make intervening justified. We'd be helping our only ally in the quadrant. Or if the Benthans requested assistance, it is again reasonable. Also if the Kazon threaten us. But the "Hi, lets fight," attitude felt wrong both for Starfleet and Romulans. For KDF, that could work.
I also would like some dialogue saying "Neelix told us. . ." something or nothing about the current situation with the Benthans and the Kazon (in the case of the Kazon, a reminder that he did tell us something). Just more evidence that we were smart enough to gather the limited intelligence available to us.
Some text during the battle from Cullah or a subordinate recognizing us as Starfleet (or KDF, or Romulan, which they would have at least heard of from Seska) would also help make the mission feel richer.
*Jarleth:
Maybe I missed it, but did you provide a reason why we have the use the Borg liberation device instead of Hugh? The two reasons I could think of is damage to their ship making it impossible for them to use at the moment or a tactical misdirect to surprise the Collective.
*Ocampan Convoy:
I'm fine with the Hirogen being the enemy. They need resources, too, and resources taken froman enemy can be seen as a minor type of trophy. And it establishes they're still around this part of space. Would have liked to have the Kobali talk to us; I only found out their escorts were Kobali by clicking on a ship. Although I dearly hope Linnea shows up in the expansion, I'm prepared to wait for later missions. But it would bed nice to have Ocampan leader taking about hearing stories from her grandmother of the time their ancestors met people from the Alpha quadrent. Also, did they completely evade both Borg and Undine on their way through the Northwest Passage? Some indication of how hard or easy their trip has been would be good, as would some indication that our new intelligence officers want to ask them for information before they leave.
*Overall:
Feels the weakest of the early missions I played, but primarily because of insufficient flavour text and justification to certain behavior. This can be easily added. It would be great if dialogue could alter slightly to accommodate the order the players chooses to visit the different system. The mystery of the unknown Borg Killers (the solution to which, I now know) is compelling.
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I started attacking 1 Borg cube and ended up about 12Km away when another Borg cube started attacking. The first cube I attacked caught up and I had both friggen cubes spam Borg Shield Neutralizer on me, 1 ship right after the other. The cubes are too close together. :mad:
Or are we just supposed to "imagine" that we have a weapon? And "pretend" to wave it over the Borg ships. Sort of like a mime in space, and wait for "Hugh" to ... erm ... do his thing ... And use our imaginations?
If so, I think maybe you might want to change the dialogue, as I spent a good 15mins searching in vain for this "weapon", all the while being ganked by the various Borg ships I was trying NOT to kill ...
Why do I feel like a Horta? ... "NO KILL" "NO KILL"
I had the same problem in my Fleet Mogh. Most of the probes I attacked were destroyed.
There is a special tray that pops up when you do that part of the misson.
I had no special tray appear. I checked my UI setting to make sure the "special ship tray" wasn't hidden (which it wasn't).
I'm also not using the "default" LCARS layout and colour scheme on this toon, but the 'Reman" layout, so that could also be the issue.
As I mentioned I'm a Romulan toon, so we normally have the "Singularity Power" tray, but as I'm in a Tal Shiar Adapted Battlecruiser, it doesn't have one.
So either it's that ship or more likely yet another Romulan/Romklink related bug.
Luckily the mission could still be completed, as I got the "We managed to save a few" message from Hugh, but it took a long time to get to 100%
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