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What happened to Rotating Weapon Frequency?

momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
It was a trait that was unlocked as part of the Omega reputation. Significantly slowed down the rate at which Borg adapted to your energy weapons. I don't see it anymore, and without this trait, anything other than swords and explosives is a waste of time against the Borg. Even the Integral Remodulator you get as a set bonus for (very expensive) anti-borg ground sets cannot possibly keep up with how fast they adapt.

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  • bobosmrade1bobosmrade1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Then it is the swords.
    I still wonder why they haven't introduced AK-s and ammo weapons against the Borg, it seems to work.
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It's there. They added it to the other passive
  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    They got rid of it with the Rep revamp unfortunately. Best bet is the Integral Remodulator with a Pulsewave weapon if you're a Tac Officer.
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  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    It's there. They added it to the other passive

    They did? When was it re-added?
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  • ledgend1221ledgend1221 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    lowy1 wrote: »
    They did? When was it re-added?
    It's the Omega Graviton Pulse module or something like that.
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    lowy1 wrote: »
    They did? When was it re-added?

    It never went away on holodeck. They took it away on tribble for about a week before adding it back in.
    It's the Omega Graviton Pulse module or something like that.

    Yeah
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  • venkouvenkou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    momaw wrote: »
    It was a trait that was unlocked as part of the Omega reputation. Significantly slowed down the rate at which Borg adapted to your energy weapons. I don't see it anymore, and without this trait, anything other than swords and explosives is a waste of time against the Borg. Even the Integral Remodulator you get as a set bonus for (very expensive) anti-borg ground sets cannot possibly keep up with how fast they adapt.

    :-/
    Cryptic changed the name of the trait.
  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    But the question remains, why are we using Energy weapons on the Borg anyway?

    And didn't Tuvok invent an Integral Frequency Modulator for Phaser Rifles?, that instantly and constantly remodulated the weapon?

    And why Anti-Proton weapons? Wouldn't the Protonic Polaron Weapons seem more appropriate against the Borg? A weapon power drain seems like a better solution against Borg, and the Proton damage is pure Kinetic, so they can't adapt to it ...

    Or is this just another example of Cryptic being to lazy to actually think things through properly?
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Then it is the swords.
    I still wonder why they haven't introduced AK-s and ammo weapons against the Borg, it seems to work.

    Because then they'd adapt their own bodies by adding more armor and using harder metal in their implants.

    Imagine a Borg "Tank".
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  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I would imagine they would have done that by now. I mean, they have implants installed already. So perfection in body frame is already a moot point.
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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Because its the type of weapons people have on hand, trying to mass produce bullet weaponry in this era wouldn't be effective.


    I do believe that is the omega set bonuses.


    Because anti-proton is the one thing most races have little to no defense against.

    Also, they only got protonic-polaron weapons AFTER the Borg were already smashed in the STFs, so it was too late to use it.

    But we can mass produce ENTIRE STARSHIPS!?!? Please come up with something better than that ... seriously

    ...

    No it's not the Omega Set Bonus, the Remodulator invented on Voyager did not require manual activation, and surely the technology exists in the 25th Century to have an Automatic Remodulator?

    ...

    But it does nothing extra to any species, and the Borg adapt to it just as easily as they adapt to Phaser's or Disruptor's

    Isn't it the ENTIRE PREMISE of the Omega Force (and MACO/KHG) to use the Best and Latest Technologies to combat the Borg Threat? So wouldn't that mean that they SHOULD be using Protonic Polaron now?

    So it still looks like laziness from Cryptic to me ...
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,594 Community Moderator
    edited September 2014
    Nothing's stopping you from equipping Protonic Polaron to fight the Borg. Just run the Dyson stuff and use the gear to fight the Borg.

    I'm using Nukara stuff against the Borg and Voth. :D
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  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    bendalek wrote: »
    But we can mass produce ENTIRE STARSHIPS!?!? Please come up with something better than that ... seriously

    Dude had a point. Picard did reproduce an effective Tommy by removing the safety. Then there was the one historian who go shot in that film noir setting.
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  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Holodecks are bane to Starfleet and Borg alike. They should all be banned.
  • momawmomaw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Thanks for those pointed out the change in name, this functionality is indeed now part of the "Omega Graviton whutsit" trait.



    As for why nobody is cranking out AKs to fight the Borg, there is no logical reason. Lack of mass production is a pathetic attempt to rationalize this obvious oversight, in a canon where people can casually create fully functional deadly weapons in a holodeck and turn anything in the computer's memory into a non-photonic object via the replicators. If you can run off a trombone or a freaking SENSOR PROBE on a whim, then you can create a firearm consisting of fewer than a dozen parts and some very basic chemistry.

    For that matter since it's not the firearm that's doing the damage but rather the chunk of metal is throws at high speed, why isn't everybody using railguns, which are a suitably space-techy way to accomplish the same exact thing.
  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I would be more concerned with some crazy captain recreating the borg in his own holodeck, attempting to become a god or anything similar to one. Recreate all the 7of9s!
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  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    xigbarg wrote: »
    I would be more concerned with some crazy captain recreating the borg in his own holodeck, attempting to become a god or anything similar to one. Recreate all the 7of9s!

    Origin story right there, somebody call Braga, case closed.
  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited September 2014
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    You can't pick and choose between in game/Rea Life and lore/canon and not ...

    Creating a projectile based weapon is as simple as asking the computer to replicate one.

    And if the Borg are supposedly gone or beaten, then why is there still Borg in the game? Why are there Red Alerts? Why is there a main Story Arc at end game concerning them? Why is there even still an Omega Rep?

    On the subject of the Remodualtor, you may be partially correct, as I believe, thinking back, that it was part of the "Elite Forces" game ... However, it still begs the question, why haven't the scientists in the 25th century come up with one anyway?
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  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    xigbarg wrote: »
    Dude had a point. Picard did reproduce an effective Tommy by removing the safety. Then there was the one historian who go shot in that film noir setting.



    Sorry but you're wrong. The gun was not replicated. It was a photonic weapon that shot photonic projectiles. True projectile weapons have never been seen in use against the Borg.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    i just slap the borg silly. my slaps hurts more than a phaser, shields down
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    wait... why would you not use swords as a rule? :P I don't leave my ship without something sharp and pointy.

    and can't you make a kinetic ground weapon now?

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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    nightken wrote: »
    wait... why would you not use swords as a rule? :P I don't leave my ship without something sharp and pointy.

    and can't you make a kinetic ground weapon now?

    I prefer to break their necks off with sheer strength.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    bendalek wrote: »
    On the subject of the Remodualtor, you may be partially correct, as I believe, thinking back, that it was part of the "Elite Forces" game ... However, it still begs the question, why haven't the scientists in the 25th century come up with one anyway?

    Well, that is also just kind of it, that weapon was in the Elite Force games. So STO couldn't use it, and thus for all intents and purposes, it never happened.

    Also the weapon you are thinking of is the 'I-Mod'.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    also, we saw in Voyager that simply changing frequencies isn't always enough.
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