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allanon1974
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Hi to all PvPers. I have a question for all of you...
It seems tome that there are some "unofficial" rules in PvP matches, limiting or banning some abilities or equipments.
I am new in the PvP world and i read about some "banned" techs in some forum posts but i'm not sure if that's relevant now.
AFAIK the "bans" are:
It's true?
I don't wanna play OP weapons and rise anger or so.... I wanna only understand what's "permetted" and what's "banned".
Thanks in advance and sorry for my english (I'm Italian)
Bye!
It seems tome that there are some "unofficial" rules in PvP matches, limiting or banning some abilities or equipments.
I am new in the PvP world and i read about some "banned" techs in some forum posts but i'm not sure if that's relevant now.
AFAIK the "bans" are:
- Temporal Inversion Field
- Antimatter Spread
- Danube Runabouts
It's true?
I don't wanna play OP weapons and rise anger or so.... I wanna only understand what's "permetted" and what's "banned".
Thanks in advance and sorry for my english (I'm Italian)
Bye!
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Hey there fellow Italian
wecome to pvp.
Nothing is banned, just some high level tournaments have restriction. Also there are no op weapons...
quick answer :P
Have fun!
-Giovanni@giotariz
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
(Chuckles)...... Ethics.
Anyway you have to know that the only thing really OP in this game is a little word called teamwork, nothing is more important, regardless of the spam and cheese out there, because there is always a possible counter.
However, if you really like pvp, me and csi mates are available to invite you and talk to you on our TS so i can explain you something about this weird world
Yes there is some abilities and gear people don't like. While I understand this. And there are somewhat same everyone is playing with the same rules.
I personally think if people have problems with things, stay away for using it first.
so isn't a question of ethics, but a question of "boredom"?
And swifty escorts fast as lightning, vapers and so... aren't boring too for the others? i mean... the first PVP match i was killed 5 times without even SEEING who's shotting me. Later a friend explained me that it was a rommie vaper...
I know... without experience that's normal. But what's the "meter" of boredom? what is annoying and what's not?
i want only understand
A lot of things are considered cheap though, because they give a large advantage and do not have many counters. It is up to you if you want to use them. Some people need the crutch gear, some people rather learn how to play without them. Do you want to get a reputation as crutch user, or as a good player.
except abusing of bugs, cheating and some turnament's rules, the only ethics in pvp is killing before being killed. ^^
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
You could always ask the vaper how he achieved this results.
General rule is; you will get all kinds of tips and tricks IF... you ask nicely!
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
We know the true good players from the "use what ever broken **** you can find" players. I try to stay away from that scum. IMO just being Romulan eliminates you already. (witcho over powered Azz :P).
TIF is an AoE debuff to all recharge timers, and in case of Temporal ships buffs them. There's no real way to counter it, except moving away or scrambling the user.
AMS is an AoE scramble and perception debuff, still cleared by Science Team.
Elite Danubes, known as Yellowstone Runabouts, are uber for crowd controlling, each pet leaving a trail of EWP on the target sometimes, and chroniton torpedoes to further debuff movements.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
This isn't so anymore, I'd say. It is purely a subjective, personal matter - just run whatever what you feel like running, and don't bother trying to impose any standards on anyone.
The only exception may be in premade group matches, and private 1v1s - you can discuss barring certain things with your opponent, but whether they agree or disagree is up to them.
For example, I personally feel uncomfortable running scramble doffs, so I don't. But I know I can't impose on anyone, so I don't yell if it's used on me. I may single out the player for special attention, though.
TIF can be neutralized by applying a photonic shockwave to its user or interrupted by an aux subsystem disable proc inflicted by Viral Matrix, you absolutely dont need to scramble him in order to counter it, either a precisely placed shockwave or Counter-TIFing by one of ur own team comrades is the most efficient way to deal with this recharge time debuffer.
Yellowstones are still severly bugged in this game due to tetryon plasma ejected by these pets causing targeted objects to get invisible frequently of the opposing team during combat. Furthermore the plasma disables your engine subsystems and wont display a debuff icon on your buffbar when u are caught inside the cloud. Once you are stuck you are only able to get out of the plasma when the ability disappears from the map since it can neither be cleared by cleanse doffs nor by sci/eng team or hazards as opposed to the usual warp plasma.
Generally there are no official rules for public pvp in arena or cap and hold you can use whatever you want to. Those rumours originally appeared from self-appointed "PvP-Messiahs" who are obviously not capable of handling some of the consoles or set abilities and demand rules to restrict or even ban them completely from the pvp scene in order to turn the conditions for pvp combat in their favor. I wouldnt pay much attention to this. The best way to encounter such persons is to ignore them or make them first priority target in future encounters :P
However if you dont get along with some "clickie universal consoles" or other abilities and insist on a set of rules for pvp, you either may participate in pvp-tournaments which are usually composed of guidelines to enable all teams a fair and square fun-event or arrange private pvp challenges with other teams who are willing to agree on a preset of rules for one specific match.
Cheers
-=Hannibal - Inner Circle PvP-Department=-
Hannibal's YouTube PvP-channel (under construction)
More Inner Circle PvP-Action worth watching from: Hank, Mira Theng and Zimbilimbim
I prefer "its only funny when I use it"
Or else just have fun in the queues.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
Tbh, the normal Cryptic response is to:
1. Deny the bug's existence.
2. Declare it's Working As Intended b/c a fix can't be found/thought of in the short term.
3. Find the fix to the issue after a year and a half, "Fix it" and then sell the bug's ability in a lockbox/Z-store.
4. Reintroduce the "feature" in a "patch" that references the broken code. Goto step 1.
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
LMAO... I just wish it wasn't true. So much LOL there. I think you're on to them.
Make no mistake - Banning anything in pvp destroys pvp, and anyone who laments over mechanics before a match is assuradly trying to rig the deck in their favor.
There is nothing op, there is nothing that is cheeze, there is only whining. The reason the whining is so loud is that the pvp community is so tiny that the bullies who would have you not use the things you want to use will be heard because no one else is speaking. And do not mistake it - these are bullies in every sense of the word, every one of them who whine about TiF, or Danubes, or anything else.
Furthermore - if we are to use these assinine rules that Some People might make up we would see matches that last forever and ever, spiriling to the top of the map. Believe it - it has been proven over and over again.
You bring whatever You want to bring to the game, because without You there is no game, and of You want to play by someone elses rules, and gratify someone elses ego, that is Your choice as well.
I said it.
Again.
Maybe the best choice is to try myself these "cheesy" abilities and then decide myself if there are too "easy" and "unfair" to use or not.
btw, PvP community is a very complicated one...
I would say that there are those who are like that, though. Thankfully, not the entire community is like that.