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Let Zen/Dilithium be used in Exchange and allow for old zen ships to be sold back
ooliteflight
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I think we should be able to spend (redacted) and zen in the exchange.
We also need a system that allows us to sell our old ships for zen to cryptic (with some major drawbacks ie loose 50% of your zen investment and you would lose the ship across all accounts) perhaps create a system where when ships aren't being sold & people are selling ships back to cryptic decreases in value and ships that lots of people are buying and not selling them back cost more over time.
We also need a system that allows us to sell our old ships for zen to cryptic (with some major drawbacks ie loose 50% of your zen investment and you would lose the ship across all accounts) perhaps create a system where when ships aren't being sold & people are selling ships back to cryptic decreases in value and ships that lots of people are buying and not selling them back cost more over time.
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Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
Your idea to sell ships for Zen (even if it was 50% less than purchase price) will never happen in a zillion years.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
The main reason is that eventually your favorite ship will go obsolete and useless in a few years just as they should like in the real world but you should be able to sell it.
I don't really see that you should be able to though. Just because you think so, and apparently some others. You pay $20 to $25 dollars, use it daily for a year or two, then get the next thing you like/want. You got your moneys worth.
I just cannot fathom why people insist on treating in games assets as if they were real products that had and/or retained some sort of real world value.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
the Ferengi get them in the boxes some how :P
If you don't understand the difference between spending an amount of money for a virtual asset for entertainment and buying a real object that can be re-sold, then I simply don't know what to tell you.
I view ALL ship/gear/equipment costs as entertainment costs. I pay it, use the item I bought to entertain myself for however long it holds my interest and then buy something else.
As the saying goes; "For those who understand, no explanation is necessary, for those that don't, no explanation will suffice."
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
To be honest, I don't think he/she wishes to understand, they just want to get as much Zen back as they can.
Anyway, won't happen so this is pointless. There is no game out there that allows you to 'refund' your digital purchase of something after you've used it for some time or, even not using it at all.
You can resell movies and games can't you, at least for the most part. Yes I know that cds are 'real objects' but as I said STO is a virtual galaxy so why can't you resell 'real objects' in a virtual galaxy.
Point, game, match.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
corelogik: I think the system works fine as it is. Why add complexity where none is needed?
ooliteflight: You should be able to resell your obsolete ships
corelogik: I don't really see... You got your moneys worth... I just cannot fathom why people insist on treating in games assets as if they were real products
ooliteflight: Why can't you treat in game assets as real life assets? It is in fact a virtual galaxy
corelogik: If you don't understand the difference... I view ALL ship/gear/equipment costs as entertainment costs... no explanation will suffice
ooliteflight: ...why can't you resell 'real objects' in a virtual galaxy ...Tell me what is wrong with the idea
corelogik: Point, game, match
I never proposed selling your ships and getting USD for them, I proposed selling in game assets for other in game assets just like in the non-virtual world where you can trade assets for other assets. 'Real objects' in a virtual world are virtual objects. Saying I will not give a rebuttal is not a rebuttal.
You are just leasing the ship from Cryptic, you own nothing. Cryptic has the right to repossess/terminate the agreement whenever it wants. You have no recourse but to abide by the rules that you agreed to by checking the EULA box when you started to play STO.
'You are just leasing the ship from Cryptic, you own nothing. Cryptic has the right to repossess/terminate the agreement whenever it wants. You have no recourse but to abide by the rules that you agreed to by checking the EULA box when you started to play STO.'
I never though about it like that, but isn't it the same with land. If you don't pay your taxes they can take it away and the land is only good for your lifespan likewise the ship is only good for the lifespan of the character and as long as you follow the rules.
Like a used car lot?
Where's the win for Cryptic? You're asking them to make a brand new system that will remove Cstore Unlocks from 1 account to another for free.
There will always be people buying the C-Store ships, because they don't want to grind out the Zen via dil farming, and when new ships come out, if they want to sell off their old ships for EC or Dil then they can, and use the currency for Zen, LB keys, etc.
I'm not saying use it as a primary way to get ships, just as a way to get back some form of compensation for ships you no longer use.
How about used ships lose a console slot and dmg resistance is reduced by 10% and a lower shield modifier? I think the simplest solution is to sell the ships back to cryptic at 50% value
roger that...!
To the Opening Post - seriously you're wasting your time. They hardly listen to us as it is and they surely won't listen to you on this topic. But my hat's off to you for trying.
the OP said it would disable for all toons. there is no exploit.
First, you don't own the ship, per the game license you have bought the right to use cryptics property in cryptics game for as long as cryptic chooses to let you use it. They have the right to cancel this financial agreement at any time and you have the right to walk away at any time.
For the second idea, running the auction house on dil is a phenomenally bad idea. It means if I have money and you have time you can only buy 8k dil worth of my stuff per day. That's bad for you, bad for me, and very bad for cryptic. Right now you can buy 8k dil/day worth of my zen, plus as much of my zen items from the ah as you can farm in ec. That's a better system.
And no, increasing the dil cap isn't god either, look at never winter where they allow you to refine three times as much, then charge eight times more for everything. Its not worth it.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard