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Recent Value Changes to Consoles - Post 8/28/14 Patch

crypticgekocrypticgeko Member Posts: 87
edited January 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hi Folks,

Recently, some data was changed on holodeck that slightly increased the effectiveness of many high level ship consoles. This change was unintentional and was the result of a significant data overhaul in preparation for Delta Rising. This change will not be a permanent change. We will be reverting these numbers back to their original values, so we wanted to let you know what to expect.

We also want to ask for your help in finding any other unintentional changes. If you see any unexpected values change (whether up or down), please let us know and we will investigate.

We hope to have this matter resolved very soon and we apologize for any inconvenience.


LLAP

Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
Star Trek Online Lead Designer
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  • canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    crypticgeko wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    Recently, some data was changed on holodeck that slightly increased the effectiveness of many high level ship consoles. This change was unintentional and was the result of a significant data overhaul in preparation for Delta Rising. This change will not be a permanent change. We will be reverting these numbers back to their original values, so we wanted to let you know what to expect.

    We also want to ask for your help in finding any other unintentional changes. If you see any unexpected values change (whether up or down), please let us know and we will investigate.

    We hope to have this matter resolved very soon and we apologize for any inconvenience.


    LLAP

    Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
    Star Trek Online Lead Designer
    Before the flack storm arrives I'd like to thank you for being so prompt with informing of us of what's happening.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Thanks for the heads up. Much appreciated.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Which ones? I'd love to see effective consoles before they get re-nerfed...
  • captainzheicaptainzhei Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Can we keep one or two of them? Pretty please? A little torpedo damage bonus for the weekend would be SUPER SWELL. :D


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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Called it...no worries geko. it isn't the first time a patch before an expansion had a little bit of an unintentional leak.

    I assume these are crafting upgraded consoles, bit you probably can't say...
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Ah well, fair enough.

    These things happen and I appreciate the clear and prompt explanation.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    A bunch of us looked at everything we could think of and all we saw changes to were tac, sci, and eng consoles VR Mk XI or Rare Mk XII and better (in other words equiv to a common Mk XIV or better).

    None of the weapons or universal console I looked at looked different to me, but I might not be remembering old stats right.

    E: Oh and gold-quality items now actually say "Legendary" on them, I don't recall seeing that before

    E2: Ah, I didn't look at UR weapons on the exchange, since my fleet weapons didn't look any different. But the crafted ones are definitely a lot stronger.
  • tjknight69tjknight69 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    All of the Ultra Rare crafted consoles and weapons on the exchange, just do a search for Ultra Rare.

    A Dual heavy cannon has twice as much DPS as a fleet version coming at over 500 DPS and a beam has over 300 DPS and ENG has 50% turn
  • riyottsariyottsa Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    crypticgeko wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    Recently, some data was changed on holodeck that slightly increased the effectiveness of many high level ship consoles. This change was unintentional and was the result of a significant data overhaul in preparation for Delta Rising. This change will not be a permanent change. We will be reverting these numbers back to their original values, so we wanted to let you know what to expect.

    We also want to ask for your help in finding any other unintentional changes. If you see any unexpected values change (whether up or down), please let us know and we will investigate.

    We hope to have this matter resolved very soon and we apologize for any inconvenience.


    LLAP

    Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
    Star Trek Online Lead Designer

    Bro, are you even real?
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    Geko, just hold off adding new code into Holodeck ahead of time. About 3 weeks ago, the whole TP values for gear got inserted into Holodeck ahead if time and I noticed it and put in in a post not knowing what they were for.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=18463381&postcount=1

    I know you're trying to not make a huge single patch, but dripping it into Holodeck is having unintended consequences.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    thanks for leveling with us
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    Basically, you hiked ALL fleet, UR, and MK XII, XI and X consoles. Can't say the same for lower levels since I haven't taken a look.

    Come on, give me tribble access. I really want to see what's coming ahead of time even if I now know how Mk XIV consoles will behave.
  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited August 2014
    riyottsa wrote: »
    Bro, are you even real?

    as a 14 year old min-maxer, I approve of this message.
    LOLSTO
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    brandonfl wrote: »
    as a 14 year old min-maxer, I approve of this message.

    The fact that it took this to make Geko finally create a tread is just amazing. Frankly dude, communicate more in the forums than just when someone has a major TRIBBLE up.

    On the flip side, I feel sad for the poor developer who had a crappy day today for having let this code slip into Holodeck. I feel for you man, I know exactly how it feels. Sorry if it affected whatever salary bonus or yearly salary hike Cryptic gives.
    captainzhei wrote: »
    Can we keep one or two of them? Pretty please? A little torpedo damage bonus for the weekend would be SUPER SWELL. :D


    Can't hurt to ask.


    I do have to agree. The bonus to the fleet generic torpedo and beam damage consoles is awesome and should stay permanent. I remember when these consoles got nerfed before their release and hence why people rarely, if ever, buy them.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    On the flip side, I feel sad for the poor developer who had a crappy day today for having let this code slip into Holodeck. I feel for you man, I know exactly how it feels. Sorry if it affected whatever salary bonus or yearly salary hike Cryptic gives.

    Eh, I'm sure someone feels bad but at the end of the day, it's just a Star Trek spacebarbie game. It's not like the control system of a nuclear plant go messed up.
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited August 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Come on, give me tribble access. I really want to see what's coming ahead of time even if I now know how Mk XIV consoles will behave.

    After testing Tribble a couple days ago, I can tell you that no BIG patch was made, the most recent patches for Tribble, are just for testing the DR code 45. to see if anything would break the game...

    Other than I am not sure if I could tell what's in there, due to stuff still being REDACTED... :/

    That being said, thnxs for the notice Geko, much appriciated...
  • tritan2409tritan2409 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Thanks Geko for being up front.

    Lots of folks give you guys flack for some things that happen, its only right to be thanked when your being honest, forthcoming and on the level.

    Some do appreiciate it.
  • simeion1simeion1 Member Posts: 898 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I love it, Dev communication. This is all I ever wanted, from them. I understand mistakes happen, and sometimes even bad ideas and mechanics make it to the game. But I love the openness and response from the Dev team. I know they can't answer every question, but this goes a long way in my book.
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    brandonfl wrote: »
    as a 14 year old min-maxer, I approve of this message.

    arent we all 14 yo minmaxers

    geko go home
    youre drunk
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    how bout we get mad at geko when he does something we don't like, intentionally. not when an error was made, and hes up front about it.
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Of course, the most important bit is we now know what happens to Mk XII gear. :)
  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    meet me in dark alleys of Qo'noS, and I'll buy you a drink and some unforgettable time with a tall busty orion chick.
    I might throw a Gorn in this equation as a free bonus.
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  • williamjanewaywilliamjaneway Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    crypticgeko wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    Recently, some data was changed on holodeck that slightly increased the effectiveness of many high level ship consoles. This change was unintentional and was the result of a significant data overhaul in preparation for Delta Rising. This change will not be a permanent change. We will be reverting these numbers back to their original values, so we wanted to let you know what to expect.

    We also want to ask for your help in finding any other unintentional changes. If you see any unexpected values change (whether up or down), please let us know and we will investigate.

    We hope to have this matter resolved very soon and we apologize for any inconvenience.


    LLAP

    Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
    Star Trek Online Lead Designer

    Can I just state that for all your past secret nerfs where there has been a huge outrage. A forum post like this or including the change in patch notes would prevent most of it. The player base only requires a little bit of upfront honesty to accept something.

    I am disappointed the console increase was unintentional as it was a pleasant surprise. However as it wasn't in patch notes I understand it wasn't intended.

    Please could you assure us all future nerfs (or intended buffs) get some advance warning. This would give majority of player support.

    Also. If you would like to leave a small buff instead that would be cool. Say leaving the consoles at 33% rather than returning them back to 31.... ;)

    Thanks for the advanced heads up :)
  • hatchetl4dhatchetl4d Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    You should keep the changes to the Dyson rep consoles. They would at least get a little bit more valueable with like 2% improvement to stats.
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  • teaiusteaius Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    crypticgeko wrote: »

    We also want to ask for your help in finding any other unintentional changes. If you see any unexpected values change (whether up or down), please let us know and we will investigate.


    Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
    Star Trek Online Lead Designer

    Target Shields Subsystems numbers are wrong.

    After activating, the value shown on the tooltip of the beam weapon icon is significantly lower than the tooltip shown on the activating icon.

    However Target Engines Subsystems, Aux and Weapons show the same value in both tooltips.

    I've tested with a friend and the value actually applied to the shield power setting is the lower one.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    +37.5% antiproton damage on my fleet tac consoles, anyone?

    I vaped Scora with ease in Ker'rat. OP it must be.
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  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    +37.5% antiproton damage on my fleet tac consoles, anyone?

    I vaped Scora with ease in Ker'rat. OP it must be.

    You died the 1st time... EVERYONE HE DIED THE FIRST TIME! LOL... *runs*
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  • xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    crypticgeko wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    Recently, some data was changed on holodeck that slightly increased the effectiveness of many high level ship consoles. This change was unintentional and was the result of a significant data overhaul in preparation for Delta Rising. This change will not be a permanent change. We will be reverting these numbers back to their original values, so we wanted to let you know what to expect.

    We also want to ask for your help in finding any other unintentional changes. If you see any unexpected values change (whether up or down), please let us know and we will investigate.

    We hope to have this matter resolved very soon and we apologize for any inconvenience.


    LLAP

    Al “Captain Geko” Rivera
    Star Trek Online Lead Designer

    I am not always convinced by your work, Geko.
    But I very much appretiate you personally addressing this matter in such a prompt fashion on the forums.

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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    My guess is that the stats we are seeing on the consoles now are the stats they will have after they go through the XII->XIV and XI->XIII upgrade process.
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