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realmini
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I anticipated this game for years like i do the moment to strike in an arena. Its been a long time coming that the universal bridge officer seating on brids of prey been made to mean something.
The omni slot has meant so little since superior ships exist in every conceivable configuration save for a tiny fraction of viable builds. Long ogne is the unique relevance. Shall it return with the intel boff?
Many ships have uni slots, most ormulans, most lockboxes.... naturally follows that these op ships will stand to gain the most.. and further advantage over inferior FED ships.
They already said that some t6 ships wotn even have the intel boff slots, but t5.5 ships with alredy existing uni slotsshould get them.
The omni slot has meant so little since superior ships exist in every conceivable configuration save for a tiny fraction of viable builds. Long ogne is the unique relevance. Shall it return with the intel boff?
Many ships have uni slots, most ormulans, most lockboxes.... naturally follows that these op ships will stand to gain the most.. and further advantage over inferior FED ships.
They already said that some t6 ships wotn even have the intel boff slots, but t5.5 ships with alredy existing uni slotsshould get them.
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a klink bop isn't op in any way
On a fundamental level, a new type of BO powers could mean a new set of powers that will have neither shared nor "global" cooldowns with existing powers.
One of the problems of a ship like the Galaxy Retrofit that it has a lot of low level engineering powers, and they practically use only two subsystem cooldowns - Emergency Powers and Engineering Team. That means a lot of redundancy and powers you can't really together. No ability to "burst".
Ships that have access to 4 instead of 3 BO power suites will likely have less overlap, and more "spike potential". (Even when we're not talking about damage powers. Heals can also spike. And you may sometimes even spike with crowd control - Gravity Well + Tyken's Rift would be awesome, but is not possible. But now imagine there was a new "Shield Inverter" power that would cause the target ships shield to blast off damage in a 3km radius. Suddenly you have two crowd control effects that work really well together and that you can actually use together!)
They are not uni they are there own thing. RIP BOP.
The BOP is now a leveling ship.
I pray your wrong on this one old friend. I hold out hope till dev states otherwise. Your healer recluse will be op. Intel commander slot ftw?
lol
Seriously though ya allowing bops to slot multiple New style boffs if they went that way would likely be pretty broken.
I think the only hope we have is that Cryptic is smart enough to realize the KDF T6 ship release better feature a proper BOP or the majority of the KDF mainly players left are likely to revolt and defect to another developer.
I as well hope that isn't the case. I am holding out some hope we will see a T6 Bird or some type.
OR better yet cause it solves ALL the QQ... I hope they don't release any T6... release all new ships as T5... and sell upgrades for all T5 class ships. (even lockbox, This way they could sell unlocks to all with stat leveling at 50+ as well as console adds and a new boff slot)
I think that would have been a much more elegant solution then this junk they are pushing on us. With a system like that I would have spent a ton of Zen / D and added in some $. Why not upgrade everything and leave us all the options we already had ship wise... and still have cool new ship releases. Could have even given some of there coolest new designs as mission rewards as standard T5... with an option for a $$$$ super upgrade that would make them Full on T6 for the same cost as buying them in the store.
they will follow me to storm craptic hq and riot
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
" **All Tier 6 ships launching with Delta Rising will come with a Specialist Bridge Officer seat. "
I think Mini just got the name wrong. He intended to say specialist bridge officer seat. Seems to imply that this new mechanic is indeed not something that can be slotted in current Uni slots, as mini had hoped.
I think we all knew that wasn't going to happen... I know I didn't expect this idea to be so exclusive. These are the make it break it. If there good they break all semblance of balance, and it will be T6 or be square. If they are not that good... I question why they even need to exist at all. Either way Cryptic has either messed up by making them so exclusive to a handful of ships that people will be disgusted in general... or they will be so bad that people will wonder why Cryptic wasted dev time creating them.
Unless they change there plans... I only see one or the other being the outcomes. So either Cryptics marketing plans are so over the top greedy they look bad... or there development is so over the top terrible they look bad. Of course nothing is in the wild yet... perhaps someone there with some sort of logical mind will look at things and make some changes before things are live and broke beyond a simple fix.
new boff name is intelligence
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
Ya, it's been leaked...surprised the thread wasn't locked/delted due to title
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Info has already been there for a bit My old friend.
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/arc/f1/92/f1923bd72957e73ecc51caed69f704171409083464.png
Added bridge officer seat... No on the T5u.
Specialist Seating... No on the T5u.
This makes T5u completely pontless... as we feared.
All we can hope for now... is either a better selection of T6 ships that would include well loved ships like the BOP. Or some sort of double dip upgrade for T5u ships that would add a specialist seating.
Maybe if we wish really really hard and cryptic sees we will pay more money for it they will make the double upgrade.
That way everyone can have an aoe subnuke. Yay!!
Nothing is impossible to him who would try.... except getting cryptic to care about pvp.
Well everyone will now.... the only difference is the game will only really have T6 ships in it.
So everyone will be in one of 6 ships. (perhaps 8-9 counting some new lockbox T6).
It will be like season 1.0 again. Perhaps that isn't a bad thing... if I didn't feel so ripped off, I might in fact like the idea.
People like Mini not being able to fly there favorite ships though... and EVERYONE having a cloak. Sounds like fun times in PvP.
Sadly I agree with you. For pvp everyone will have to be in T6 ships which increases even more the curve for getting into pvp. If it is even playable after this.
Nothing is impossible to him who would try.... except getting cryptic to care about pvp.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
You got me confused.
Not only that, many players stayed beacose they could do PVP with Star Trek ships. Now thouse ships not even looks like Star Trek. For PVP with random ships we have EVE.
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If you think that is the way ti will go. Guess we will have to see it in action.
At this point though he will be down 5-10 BOFF skills now compared to a T6 ship. The bop isn't getting any new Boff skill slots... T6 ships are getting + boff skills (normal ones) over the existing T5 ships that already have more then a raider. The new bell and whistle skills sure he is now down those as well... and depending what nasty stuffz the intel team skill clears he may be assured a death every decloak now instead of the 60/40 situation he is in currently. As for murdering people not paying attention... we'll see again. Simple fact is everyone is going to have more hull more shields more resist and more escapes. Something tells me the days of vapor in general are over, which isn't the end of the world.
Still no one that loves X or Y canon trek ship and still loves PvP is going to be a fan of this expansion. They are forcing people into very uncanon styled Cryptic design ships... and/or New Lockbox ships that will be based on some canon delta lockbox ships that, mostly where seen a handful of times each. I have no doubt the next 3-4 lockboxes will be delta inspired and most of them will have been in ONE episode of voyager.
I seem to distinctly remember me and one other BoP absolutely vaporizing you in Ker'rat before you had a chance to fire back at either of us, if it had been one on one you still would have lost...keep talking Federation, keep talking
I got first in CE with a mirror BoP equipped with vendor trash items.
NERF BOPS UNTIL THEY BLEED.