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Suggestion: Removal of Carrier Pets Lock to Certain Ships
phoenicius
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before anyone asks, no this isn't a JHAS thread, i don't mind cryptic keeping it behind a lockbox, i'm talking about the fact that every frigate(and a few fighters) are locked to certain ships.
Fer'jais only to kar'fis, BoPs only to Vo'quvs, etc, this serves literally no purpose, we're already allowed on KDF to use all orion fighters for instance on other ships(who here hasn't saw KDFs sided dudes using elite orion interceptors on anything BUT an orion ship).
so, if we own a kar'fi, a recluse, a narcine, a bastion, an atrox, or even a JHDC plus JHAS, why shouldn't we be allowed to use its pets on other ships, like we already can with orion ships?
its not like cryptic will lose money from it.
it would also have the bonus of silencing the endless JHAS whining threads.
Fer'jais only to kar'fis, BoPs only to Vo'quvs, etc, this serves literally no purpose, we're already allowed on KDF to use all orion fighters for instance on other ships(who here hasn't saw KDFs sided dudes using elite orion interceptors on anything BUT an orion ship).
so, if we own a kar'fi, a recluse, a narcine, a bastion, an atrox, or even a JHDC plus JHAS, why shouldn't we be allowed to use its pets on other ships, like we already can with orion ships?
its not like cryptic will lose money from it.
it would also have the bonus of silencing the endless JHAS whining threads.
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Oh yeah...I can see it now...a Romulan flying a Narcine with 4 Drone ships! In most cases it's just frigates that are bound to a specific ship and in the cases that aren't...no one really cares.
as opposed to a romulan flying a narcine with 12 orion interceptors?
anyway my point stands, we can use almost every fighter and shuttle, but not frigates, doesn't make much sense.
yeah... i don't think CBS cares about that, only thing they really don't want, and its official, its a T5 connie.
Where did CBS say anything about frigate carrier pets? I am not saying they didn't. I just cannot recall any stance by CBS on the subject ever being mentioned.
I think this was just a Cryptic decision to force sales of the various carriers or keys for specific lockboxes.
I for one wouldn't have any problems with frigates not being locked to a specific carrier as long as the unlock mechanisms for the pets themselves remain in place.
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that was what my suggestion was about, give the carriers(as in true carriers) the ability to equip any frigate or fighter, as long as you have them unlocked by owning their respective carriers/etc.
i don't really consider the vesta, armitage and ar'kif to be "carriers", and i don't think the scimitar should get other frigates or have its pet used by other ships, since its basically a flagship pet like the aquarius and hoh'sus(except actually good).
personally i think this might actually result in profit to cryptic since folks would still have to own a ship to unlock its pet.
Why couldn't those accommodations be made like when you swap weapon loadouts, warpcores, engines, deflectors, shields, hull materials, or targs?
I am all for it, my Carrierescorts and my Attrox would love it. Hell yeah, shutting down an entire Spheremob, spamming them full with beta and then just "vape" them with a nice gravimetric torpedo spread, hell, that will be fun.
Long story short: I really like it, but then we can just delete all other pets aside Mesh weavers from the game, as flying anything else would be a RP, Fun or simply stupid move.
eeeeh, that's an issue with balancing and i wouldn't even say its the betaspam in itself, but rather that its possible to stack THAT much negative res on a target, which is also how folks get those absurd DPS numbers like 50k+ and beyond.
I mean, I'm already in a JHEC, canon's a moot point at this point. I'd buy the dumb atrox for the fighters, I just want to use them on a different ship.
I mean hell we're almost there, do this and what's the need for factions. No, we need to step AWAY from the vanilla zone.
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It makes too little sense already that these carriers somehow have space for 4 frigates. Now we could say that, say, a Vo'Quv would, somewhere inside, have a "slot" just the right shape and size for a BoP, which would have an access to outer space for when the BoP needs to be launched. Said "slot" is not designed for a JHAS, and cannot be designed for such without pretty much redesigning the entire ship... :eek:
Frigate carrying carriers are designed to carry their own frigates, not some other faction's frigates, and should stay that way if you ask me.
After all, we don't want things getting too out of hand.
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Actually it makes perfect sense when one takes into account the size difference between a frigate and a fighter.
Now sure, if you want to operate from the demonstrably false assumption that a Scorpion fighter and a Fer'Jai frigate are the same size and will both fit through the same launch and landing doors designed for the Scorpions then go for it. Just don't be surprised if you hear people snickering.
And by the way, in your OP you say:
And then you make certain the statement quoted above is false:
So you'd still have to have a JHDC and a JHAS to buy JHAS pets, but somehow this non-change would miraculously stop people from complaining about the situation they've made countless threads about?
I don't think this works the way you think it does...
because they would no longer need the JHAS frigate pet in order to have frigate pet, thus defeating one of the main purposes of whining about it.
also the narcine for instance had a hangar that was so big, the NX-01 could fit inside(and it did), but in any case its pretty obvious that most carriers don't have hangars that can fit a frigate(aside from the narcine) yet use them anyway, in fact the only carriers we have which possess canon hangars, are the narcine and scimitar, and the ones that actually have visible ones are the atrox, so you're really just being pedantic, like a sizable part of the STO forums playerbase for no reason.
before anyone complains i'm not including the vesta and armitage since they're not true carriers.
IMO if we're going to be completely pedantic like you are, might has well change the launch mechanic of frigates to make them warp in, instead of the current launching mechanism.
i'm joking here btw... mostly