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sirokk
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Can we please have multiple costume slots for the BOffs?
Just to be able to change their uniforms depending on the type of mission I'm going on. For example, when going on the Everything Old is New episode, I'd like all of them to be in the TOS uniforms to blend in and for immersion.
Thx!
Just to be able to change their uniforms depending on the type of mission I'm going on. For example, when going on the Everything Old is New episode, I'd like all of them to be in the TOS uniforms to blend in and for immersion.
Thx!
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We could switch into undercover costumes during ground missions, all change into Section 31 uniforms for our secret meetings, etc.
Wow that would be great.
I might even want to BUY more costumes if all my crew could easily switch into them!
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I'm aware that outfit changes at the tailor are now free, and one can save costumes for later (re)purchase, but I'd very much like to be able to change my BOff's outfits on-the-fly to suit the given situation.
Here are some details on how I'd like this to be implemented:
Purchasing / Monetization
- To make this easier for everyone, the BOff costume slot unlocks should be automatically included with any purchase of additional Player Captain costume slots (i.e. if a player buys four extra costume slots for his/her Captain, all of his/her BOffs also automatically gain four extra costume slots each)
- These unlocks should work retroactively for those who have already purchased Captain costume slots
- These unlocks should also apply to all future BOffs (i.e. if a player adds more BOffs and/or buys more BOff slots, the extra BOff costume slots should also be available to them as well)
Tailor Interface (Concept Art)
- In the Bridge Officers tab, instead of a grid simply showing each BOff and their single costume, the interface should be revised as follows:
- On the far right of each row, is the BOff's name and head-only portrait
- On the left of each row are all the outfits created for that particular BOff, which can spill over into sub-rows if required
Status Window ("U" hotkey) (Concept Art)
- At the bottom of each Player Captain / BOff's overview screen, there should be an additional button called "Select Outfit" near the existing "Edit Record" and "Career Options", which opens up a drop-down menu listing all the costumes available for that particular BOff (much like the loadouts system for Starships)
Away Team Interface (Concept Art)
- On the top-left hand of the screen is the UI responsible for showing the current members and status of the Away Team. By right-clicking on the Player Captain's portrait, one can already change the Captain's costume on-the-fly
- This feature should also be extended for each BOff (i.e. right-click on a BOff portrait, click "Change Outfit", choose from list of options in pop-up)
Further arguments in favour of implementing this feature
- By opening up additional costume slots for individual BOffs, more players would be inclined to buy more costume sets from the C-store, or participate in Summer / Winter events longer in order to redeem more costume variants.
In other words, instead of a player grinding only just enough Lohlunat Favors to outfit their captain with only one type of swimwear, the same player will now want to play much longer in order to outfit their BOffs with different types of swimwear.
tl;dr - More BOff costume slots = more players wanting to pay ZEN for more C-store outfits / players participating in special events longer to earn costumes
- When this suggestion for additional BOff costume slots was raised in the past, some forum members argued that this would result in "too much data storage overhead for each player"; however, as for S9.5, STO is already adding overhead to support features like Starship Loadouts, Reputation Marks, and most of all, a separate R&D inventory.
There are certainly differences in the data / items being stored (i.e. a simple quantity value for marks or items with stats vs. a complete costume), but my personal belief is that additional unlockable costume slots for each and every BOff per player isn't too much of a stretch.
I'll put up some concept art tomorrow, to see if I can sway some more folks.
Hopefully one of the devs (thomasthecat, perhaps?) would be interested.
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I find I don't buy many new outfits for my boffs because they can only wear one at a time and that save mechanic is iffy, so when I tend to find something I like, I keep it for years.
I would definitely invest in boff outfit slots, if not just so I could swap between everyone being in uniform when on my bridge and in Omega/maco combat gear when on away missions.
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Just use the basic version of whatever the captain wears. So you wear Ody, so does the crew... If it's a single speciality uniform, then BOFFs wear the officer version of whatever your ship standard is... and yes, I support a ship standard. Ody uniform is nice but people have paid for others so...
My vision is you get 2 options...
Captain (whatever slots you want)
Bridge (follow captain if available, else ship standard)
Ship Standard (else fleet standard)
Fleet standard (else Star Fleet Default)
And let them swap to match you. If captain is wearing ship uni, then accompanying BOFFs should also... If EV SUit (and if they have one) then that... use the on/off toggle for EV if necessary, if dress uni, then that, if tac/away-team uni... you get the picture.
I'd also be a proponent of making uniform choice available at the beam-down screen... you'd have a chance to change your jacket on the ship, no?
I know this may not work as well for KDF toons... but it's a start...
This part I am not in favour of. I like building a semi unique costume for each of my bridge officers. Maybe my science officer likes skirts over long pants. Or my bajoran is part of the militia and only on assignment to Star Fleet, etc. Forcing them to all conform and they might as well just all be the exact same human/Vulcan/ etc.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
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Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
I'm in agreement with feiqa here - individual, tailored customisation is what makes BOffs more than just a set of ground and space skills.
EDIT: I've had more time to think about this, and would like to point out the cases where siotaylor's "simplification" idea would fail:
1) How would this "simplification" system handle non-standard departmental color schemes, that are often dependent on personal preference and/or time period? For instance:
- ENT had blue jumpsuits with Command Gold, Operations Red and Sciences Blue
- TOS had Command Gold, Security/Operations/Engineering Red and Science/Medical Blue
- TMP had Command White, Science Orange, Medical Green, Engineering Red, Gold Communication/Helm/Nav and Security Grey
- TWoK had monster maroons with plus a wide range of division color on the turtlenecks
- TNG had Command Red, Security/Operations/Engineering Gold and Science/Medical Blue
- DS9/VOY had Command Red, Security/Operations/Engineering Gold and Science/Medical Aqua
- STO 2409 had Command/Tactical/Security Red, Engineering/Operations Gold and Science/Medical Blue
- STO 2410 Tactical/Security Red, Engineering/Operations Gold and Science/Medical Blue plus the Red/White CO's variant
- 29th Century Starfleet had Command Blue, Operations Burnt Orange and Science Grey
And that's not to mention personal non-canon departmental color schemes, or even variations in the position of departmental colors (e.g. inverted color schemes).
If siotaylor's simplication was implemented, players would be forced to choose from a very limited set of canon departmental colors.
2) How would this "simplification" system handle cultural/personal adornments by specific BOffs?
- Maybe someone's Vulcan BOff isn't affiliated with Starfleet, and so wears traditional robes
- Maybe someone has two Bajoran BOffs, one who is highly religious and wears an earing, while the other one doesn't
- Maybe someone's alien can't wear any of the standard uniform styles because their anatomy is not compatible with it
If siotaylor's simplication was implemented, players would be forced to make all the Bajorans a certain style, all the Andorians a certain style, etc.
In summary:
- Adding extra BOff costume slots would be relatively easier to implement, permit as much customisation as any player wants (a hallmark of most MMOs) and result in more revenue for Cryptic from players wanting to outfit their BOffs with just about every single costume combination and choices possible.
- siotaylor's simplification would not be easier to implement, remove virtually most of the customization afforded to players, and Cryptic would loose future revenue from players who could have bought additional off-duty outfits just for their BOffs.
Better still to give BOFFs extra uniform slots...
It was just an idea.
So far I've gathered enough BOFFs to have completely seperate Bridge crew and away team, and they are dressed acordingly , But it would be great if they could alternate between two sets, I might have the second slot be the Dress Uniforms for formal occasions maybe
these are great ideas! I would love them to be implemented and use for my boffs
I'd love to be able to do something like switch my away team to from their standard duty uniform to saved TOS, tactical gear, formal attire, etc. outfits depending on the situation.
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If Boff outfit slots can't come with captain outfit slots, I would like to see packs like for the starship loadouts, i.e. bundles of x slots that can be individually assigned to a boff.
It makes no sense, that i wear on a diplomacy mission my dress uniform and my crew does not. Or wearing off duty uniform and my crew not.
Yes i support this idea and i would pay for BOff Costume slot.
Personally, I would die to get Boff outfit slots. But maybe this is a serverspace related issue?
"I" believe that when you add Costume slots, you also create full flesh copies of your character, and not just a costume overlay.
Means, when I switch to a new outfit on my Captain, I also switch to a complete copy of my Captain.
And when you add additional Boff Outfit slots for, lets say every Boff, the serverspace would be full in no time. It would bring stress to the database and infrastructure.
And we all know that this is already a big problem here.
MAYBE it would be possible to reduce the serverspace by having 4 dedicated away team outfit slots.
I apply a Uniform to an away team slot and then I select a boff to that slot.
Problem is, that you need to often change the outfits per slot to fit your current needs.
This an old thread? Ha! This one I made about this topic is an old thread
Supporting this!