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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    i want a fish tank !!!!!! then get a small fish tank to go inside the big fish tank put me some picard fishy's in there and i will be set!!!
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    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    woodwhity wrote: »
    Or just plain beams maybe ;)

    Like I said, it turns great, and inertia isn't bad either, so I think DBBs and torps will work fine. I am going to pop back on to Tribble in a bit and fly it around some to see.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    any one have on that wants to let me know its inertia score?
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    My only concern is 3 Engineering consoles makes it seem like it's going to be on the fragile side for a Carrier, even the JHDC had 4 Eng consoles. Plus having only a LT Eng boff slot means you're almost forced to use the universal Lt Cmdr for another Engineer.

    Sure it looks cool, but I dunno.
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I so want one.
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  • firekeeperhufirekeeperhu Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    cryptic should nerf a2b faw-ers, not give them a shiny, coolest looking, best boff layout', carrier-dreadmonster...
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    cryptic should nerf a2b faw-ers, not give them a shiny, coolest looking, best boff layout', carrier-dreadmonster...

    A2B on a 2-hangar Carrier is one of the worst things you can do in this game in terms of ship builds. Carrier unit replenishment is dependent on Aux Power and you may often need to replace lost units repeatedly. Otherwise, you may as not put anything in your 2 hangars.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,901 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I read on another thread that the upgraded pets will be coming out later.

    Very Rare will have 2 Biomatter Phasers, 1 Biomatter Phaser Dual Beam Banks, 1 Quantum Torpedo, 1 Quantum Mine Launcher, Dispersal Pattern Alpha II, Casade what ever its called II (like the carrier console power, but no chaining).

    Ultra Rare will be the same but with Pattern Alpha III and Casade III.

    That will be an insane amount of Quantum mines ;p.

    Well it depends...it depends on how many they drop, if it drops one like the Orion Slaver does it wont be horrible (especially since they ai is pretty dumb about where they drop them) plus gotta keep in mind that most mobs these days you face have a lot of aoe, short of the Borg.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,901 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    A2B on a 2-hangar Carrier is one of the worst things you can do in this game in terms of ship builds. Carrier unit replenishment is dependent on Aux Power and you may often need to replace lost units repeatedly. Otherwise, you may as not put anything in your 2 hangars.

    True, it does suck fro dropping new fighters but the thing is a beast by its self, plus if someone is focusing your frigates then they aren't paying attention to you.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited July 2014
    Very nice looking ship but the boff layout is not impressive. I would rather have something unique like

    Cmdr Tac
    LtCmdr Universal
    LtCmdr Engineering
    Lt Science

    Not that I would ever throw away money at a lock box. But the ships look very good!
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    True, it does suck fro dropping new fighters but the thing is a beast by its self, plus if someone is focusing your frigates then they aren't paying attention to you.

    The 2 hangars are extra firepower to supplement your own, or whatever duties your hangar units can do.

    This new carrier is basically a JHDC in very basic theme but handles better. The JHDC can maul things on its own, but having 2 hangars help out is a big multiplier. To give that up by going A2B on a 2 hangar Carrier is a terrible, terrible waste.

    When I used to take my JHDC to PVP all the time, I can get focused on heavily and be completely defensive. But my hangar units did keep up the attack despite me using every ability just to stay alive.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,901 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The 2 hangars are extra firepower to supplement your own, or whatever duties your hangar units can do.

    This new carrier is basically a JHDC in very basic theme but handles better. The JHDC can maul things on its own, but having 2 hangars help out is a big multiplier. To give that up by going A2B on a 2 hangar Carrier is a terrible, terrible waste.

    When I used to take my JHDC to PVP all the time, I can get focused on heavily and be completely defensive. But my hangar units did keep up the attack despite me using every ability just to stay alive.

    You're making it sound like you *can't* drop fighters when you use A2B, sure it slows you down but you can still drop them.

    People focus on you, using A2B would help keep you alive, and if you needed a sudden boost of Aux power you could use a battery...unless you're saying you have better things to put in all 3 device slots. :P

    The JHDC and the XDNC are both combat ships, you aren't going to have a huge Auxiliary pool anyways.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    You can drop fighters and such with little Aux Power yes. But you can't replace them anytime soon. And losses will happen, PVP or PVE. More so if using a fancy Frigate where the hangar cooldowns are much longer.

    If a Carrier cannot keep the space swarming with their fighters and such, they're no carrier.

    And you're left with a very slow moving Escort in the case of this ship and a JHDC.
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  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    My first impression of the fish tank:

    296,000,000 EC. :eek:

    Well, THAT escalated quickly... people be greedy, yo. :P

    just have to be patient, in a couple of months the price will drop sharply as usual.
  • caldannachcaldannach Member Posts: 485 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    You can drop fighters and such with little Aux Power yes. But you can't replace them anytime soon. And losses will happen, PVP or PVE. More so if using a fancy Frigate where the hangar cooldowns are much longer.

    If a Carrier cannot keep the space swarming with their fighters and such, they're no carrier.

    And you're left with a very slow moving Escort in the case of this ship and a JHDC.

    I am not sure what you are talking about. My Xindi carrier runs aux2bat, puts out a ****load of damage, and always has 4 frigates up and around. The reduced aux power from running aux2bat isn't even an issue as far as i am concerned. The pets are good but the in no way compensate for the DPS of running aux2bat.

    I have a JHDC with JHAS pets and now the Narcine with its frigate pets. I have to say i think they are both as powerful as each other so far. When it gets elite pets, it will be even more powerful, i'm only able to use the rare blue pets right now.

    They are both fantastic aggressive carriers at the end of the day, aux2bat or not.

    EDIT: Unless you are referring to PVP where pets die a lot more, in which case aux power would be a slight issue witht he aux2bat. For PVE though it really isn't unless you use fighters and not frigates.
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  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    One of the fleets pvp/elite masters took one out for a spin last night ( dont ask how he got one, the lucky TRIBBLE), he found it more squishy than his other carriers. He said he would have to replace some consoles.
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm not thrilled about the XDC.
    It's more like a Carrier-Destroyer than a heavy dreadnought. A turnrate of 9 and DHCs. BOFF layout isn't very impressive and the ship itself is way too small.
    (memory-alpha says 1800 meters, thats more than twice of the length of a sovereign.)

    The devs made that huge beautiful ship into a nimble destroyer for the players how like to pew pew, nothing more.
    It's a heavy disappointment IMO.
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  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Why would you put Aux2BS, such a BS, cookie-cutter no-imagination layout, on such a fine ship like this? Sacrilege.
  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    caldannach wrote: »
    I am not sure what you are talking about. My Xindi carrier runs aux2bat, puts out a ****load of damage, and always has 4 frigates up and around. The reduced aux power from running aux2bat isn't even an issue as far as i am concerned. The pets are good but the in no way compensate for the DPS of running aux2bat.

    I have a JHDC with JHAS pets and now the Narcine with its frigate pets. I have to say i think they are both as powerful as each other so far. When it gets elite pets, it will be even more powerful, i'm only able to use the rare blue pets right now.

    They are both fantastic aggressive carriers at the end of the day, aux2bat or not.

    EDIT: Unless you are referring to PVP where pets die a lot more, in which case aux power would be a slight issue witht he aux2bat. For PVE though it really isn't unless you use fighters and not frigates.

    Since you have the carrier does it have a unique brudge? Just curious.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Since you have the carrier does it have a unique brudge? Just curious.
    I know the Reptilian ship does.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Since you have the carrier does it have a unique brudge? Just curious.

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  • domm20domm20 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Log in for first time in months, got three keys in Inc, grab Xindi lockbox.

    Open first one.... Yup.. you got it... I got a Carrier

    Queue the /tells offering money/keys/firstborn children

    Sat her stumped, so gotta read through this to see if I can fly the damn thing or not lol
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