The GAME is free to play, yes. That means you don't have to play the game. That doesn't mean that everything in the game that is extra is free. That is why you pay to open boxes. That is why you pay for any of the extra uniform options. That is why you pay for the store ships. They are not necessary to play the game. If you don't want to spend money buying keys or the time it takes to get the dil needed to get the keys, then don't. Nobody, not me, not Cryptic, nobody is forcing you to open the boxes. You don't need the lockbox ships to play the game. You don't need the DOff mini-packs to play the game. You don't need the cross-faction consoles to play the game. You don't need anything in the boxes to play the game.
Okay, let me see if I get this right. They mention this is a free to play game, but they're offering up drops that can only be opened when you buy keys for zen, which you can get in exchange for real money or a hell of a lot of Dilithium (current 151:1, or 18875 dlilthium for just ONE key)
I guess I don't mind paying in a FREE game to open the newer boxes, but shouldnt we be able to open the older ones without keys by now? Or at least at a reduced price? If nothing else, introduce Legacy Keys at half price.
So, you mention exactly HOW you can open boxes for free, and then complain that you can't open boxes for free?
Cryptic is kind enough to give you a method of getting every item in the game via your gameplay (Dilithium, Astral Diamonds, etc). Most other FREE games don't give you that option.
Paying for things like lockboxes and other items is how FREE games are able to generate money to keep the servers running, pay the developers, etc.; did you think that just because it's free for you to play that it's free for them to make and keep running?
Okay, let me see if I get this right. They mention this is a free to play game, but they're offering up drops that can only be opened when you buy keys for zen, which you can get in exchange for real money or a hell of a lot of Dilithium (current 151:1, or 18875 dlilthium for just ONE key)
I guess I don't mind paying in a FREE game to open the newer boxes, but shouldnt we be able to open the older ones without keys by now? Or at least at a reduced price? If nothing else, introduce Legacy Keys at half price.
You know you can just buy keys with EC right? or better yet buy the ships with EC on the exchange as well. You can earn as much EC as you want unlike dilithium there is no refining cap or time gating. I would however suggest if you are a F2P player you buy the EC cap increase so you can bank up to 1 billion EC.
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Paying for things like lockboxes and other items is how FREE games are able to generate money to keep the servers running, pay the developers, etc.; did you think that just because it's free for you to play that it's free for them to make and keep running?
Makes me wonder if Arc has some method of upping the probability of a Lockbox drop whenever income for the month is lower than expected.
Okay, let me see if I get this right. They mention this is a free to play game, but they're offering up drops that can only be opened when you buy keys for zen, which you can get in exchange for real money or a hell of a lot of Dilithium (current 151:1, or 18875 dlilthium for just ONE key)
I guess I don't mind paying in a FREE game to open the newer boxes, but shouldnt we be able to open the older ones without keys by now? Or at least at a reduced price? If nothing else, introduce Legacy Keys at half price.
Buy for 2.9 mil ec on the exchange.
Or be like me, grind dil, convert to zen, buy character slots, grind more dil, end up with 12 tooons producing 96k dil per day=35 keys a week. And if you are smart and sell them on the dil exchange thats 95,5 mil ec/week
EDIT: with 3 character slots (free) you can get 158 zen per day, after 4 days you could get 2 more slots, or wait another 3 and get 4 slots
then with 7 slots, you can get ~410 zen per day, perpetual cycle, you can get INSANE numbers of characters, keys whatever, with a bit of dil grinding.
12 slots=635 zen PER DAY. $6.35 in zen per day, save that and you can buy anything quickly. 10 days....i can have a ship pack. 5 days and i can get a single ship. with NO REAL MONEY
Just because they offer them doesn't mean anyone has to accept them or open them. Just ignore them or sell them on the exchange for money.
When you think of it, a LTS is a gamble too, how long are you going to hang around or how long the life of the game will be.
But smart players ( points to you ) buy the keys off the exchange with EC and get ripped of for free! or just say " TRIBBLE this " and leave them clunking in deep space where they are picked up by Pakled's and sold to Cryptic.
Yes, it's a wonderful cycle of Targ poo. =3
True, but sadly in Europe is offering of means of gambling forbidden. Even so that selling lotery tickets or those "scratch cards" to minors is not allowed, no matter if that minor is telling that he/she is buying it for their parents. Does it mean that the minor is going to use that ticket or rip it to pieces and throw it in the trash bin, no, but it isn't allowed.
OK, if I have to stay here for a while, your cieling ... looks idious.:D
True, but sadly in Europe is offering of means of gambling forbidden. Even so that selling lotery tickets or those "scratch cards" to minors is not allowed, no matter if that minor is telling that he/she is buying it for their parents. Does it mean that the minor is going to use that ticket or rip it to pieces and throw it in the trash bin, no, but it isn't allowed.
The EU doesn't have much power here, as both PWE and Cryptic are US held companies. Perfect World has a smart business plan in that regard; while there IS a euro branch of their company, it looks like it operates independently from the US and asian ones.
The COULD go as far as blocking the game's IP addresses, but if they did that they would have to block literally every MMO since by your broad definition any sort of random reward structure for pay (i.e. loot drops from a WoW raid or mining in EVE Online) would be gambling.
True, but sadly in Europe is offering of means of gambling forbidden. Even so that selling lotery tickets or those "scratch cards" to minors is not allowed, no matter if that minor is telling that he/she is buying it for their parents. Does it mean that the minor is going to use that ticket or rip it to pieces and throw it in the trash bin, no, but it isn't allowed.
Ok, report them. Simplest solution for Cryptic and PWE, block access to the game from all European ISPs. Problem solved.
True, but sadly in Europe is offering of means of gambling forbidden. Even so that selling lotery tickets or those "scratch cards" to minors is not allowed, no matter if that minor is telling that he/she is buying it for their parents. Does it mean that the minor is going to use that ticket or rip it to pieces and throw it in the trash bin, no, but it isn't allowed.
We had this debate couple years back when lock boxes came out about offering this form of gambling to minors. They didn't listen then, they won't listen now, because frankly they don't care that they are promoting a gambling system to minors. Morally it is wrong, but not much you can do really. Ironic this discussion has come back around...
STOP THE DAMN BOXES.......
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Ok, report them. Simplest solution for Cryptic and PWE, block access to the game from all European ISPs. Problem solved.
If they would do that, they violate another important European law, which clearly states :
"Everyone that has offered their personal information to any kind of database/site, has to be granted at anytime access to this information".
No matter how you slice it or dice it : Offering means of gambling to minors is forbidden in Europe. Legal age is 18 years or up for gambling. It wouldn't be an issue if your payment record are being used as verification, expl. Credit Card or ID, but Cryptic/PWE is also accepting vouchers in form of expl. Paysafecard as payment and here is the verification of age isn't granted.
OK, if I have to stay here for a while, your cieling ... looks idious.:D
So, you are saying that players in the EU will basically be banned from playing MMO games? Because lockboxes and the like are the primary revenue source for every last one of them so they won't be giving them up. It will also ban a vast majority of tablet games out there (most of which now rely on microtrasactions and random drops from them), so iPad owners will be hosed, too.
I don't think that the millions of people there who like these games will appreciate that, but hey, report away - I don't live there. Once the dev shops over there all relocate to non-EU nations and that revenue stream and those jobs all go away from the already-economically-challenged EU, maybe they will wake up and put the onus on protecting children back onto the parents where it belongs.
So, you are saying that players in the EU will basically be banned from playing MMO games? Because lockboxes and the like are the primary revenue source for every last one of them so they won't be giving them up. It will also ban a vast majority of tablet games out there (most of which now rely on microtrasactions and random drops from them), so iPad owners will be hosed, too.
I don't think that the millions of people there who like these games will appreciate that, but hey, report away - I don't live there. Once the dev shops over there all relocate to non-EU nations and that revenue stream and those jobs all go away from the already-economically-challenged EU, maybe they will wake up and put the onus on protecting children back onto the parents where it belongs.
You seem to forget the warning that EU Commission has issued the last time concerning F2P games : http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-187_en.htm. A second warning is heading towards the software, gaming industry in general concerning the EULA.
OK, if I have to stay here for a while, your cieling ... looks idious.:D
You seem to forget the warning that EU Commission has issued the last time concerning F2P games : http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-187_en.htm. A second warning is heading towards the software, gaming industry in general concerning the EULA.
Didn't forget, just didn't care. I'll be over on this side of the pond playing my games no matter what, you guys can sit over there and not play them because the EU tells you you can't all you want. We have our own issues here in the US, a game company offering a random drop item that kids could potentially get to if their parents aren't stopping them is pretty far down the list. Given that several countries in the EU are about to hit economic collapse, you would figure that the EU would have more important things to do than parent everyone's kids as well, but everyone has their own priorities. I bet the 27% of Greeks who are out of work really appreciate that their government's time and their taxes are going to protect their kids from the evils of lockboxes.
At the end of the day Lock boxes are not technically gambling as you do not gain cash from the Lockbox so the EULA doesnt really apply and is a effective loophole. Nobody forces you or your children to open the lockboxes and I am one of the few who have opened a few I have never got the top prize but if you think this is a gamble. What about all the other games you play even ones who give nothing in return. Call of Duty for example you are betting you are going to get more kills than the opponent This is a gamble.
Other games you are gambling to get the highest score all games have a form of gambing then in face of this evidence all gaming is gamblingso would you expect the EULA to ban gaming?
Sounds like it.
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It's all just smoke and mirrors anyway. The EU statute is specifically about DIRECTLY targeting gambling towards minors ("Games should not contain direct exhortations to children to buy items in a game or to persuade an adult to buy items for them"), and is aimed squarely at iPad games with cute critters and little kid avatars. STO's lockbox is not aimed at that audience, and it will be up to the EU to make their case that the lockboxes in some way are specifically designed to entice minors to open them.
In the absolutely worst case, they change the EULA by making the game rated PEGI 18 and/or add a warning screen during startup to state specifically that there is content not appropriate for minors in the game (probably enticing MORE minors to want to play) and moving the blame for minors playing it to the parents where it belongs. In the end the vocal minority of STO players who feel that lockboxes ruin their gameplay will remain disgruntled, and we will have at most an extra 2 seconds of watching another logo/warning screen when the game starts up.
Didn't forget, just didn't care. I'll be over on this side of the pond playing my games no matter what, you guys can sit over there and not play them because the EU tells you you can't all you want. We have our own issues here in the US, a game company offering a random drop item that kids could potentially get to if their parents aren't stopping them is pretty far down the list. Given that several countries in the EU are about to hit economic collapse, you would figure that the EU would have more important things to do than parent everyone's kids as well, but everyone has their own priorities. I bet the 27% of Greeks who are out of work really appreciate that their government's time and their taxes are going to protect their kids from the evils of lockboxes.
What's so hard to grasp the concept of "NO", "FORBIDDEN", "PROHIBITED", "NOT ALLOWED". Whether the company is based in Europe, USA, the moon, the second star left of the sun, if the product that this company is offering is not conform the regulation issued by Europe, it remains forbidden. A medical drug might be regulated in the US, but it doesn't mean that it is regulated in Europe and allowed to use. Our economy has nothing to do with it. In fact, the one of America isn't that great either, but they do have also a gambling law, which is more severe then ours. Oh, lockboxes aren't gambling ? Sorry, but if they aren't, all the rewards they provide should be equal to the price of a "master key", which isn't in this case. There is always a risk of loss, getting a lesser valued item. That is gambling, in my books.
Does it mean that those lockboxes should disappear ? No, but make it so that minors don't have a chance to obtain master keys for expl. Why not make those bound to account and only purchable by Zen ? Cryptic/PWE can easily verify whether an account has a payment record through CC or paypal. Such adults only can decide if they wanna play the game of lockboxes. They are afteral considered to know what good or bad is for themselves.
OK, if I have to stay here for a while, your cieling ... looks idious.:D
What's so hard to grasp the concept of "NO", "FORBIDDEN", "PROHIBITED", "NOT ALLOWED". Whether the company is based in Europe, USA, the moon, the second star left of the sun, if the product that this company is offering is not conform the regulation issued by Europe, it remains forbidden. A medical drug might be regulated in the US, but it doesn't mean that it is regulated in Europe and allowed to use. Our economy has nothing to do with it. In fact, the one of America isn't that great either, but they do have also a gambling law, which is more severe then ours. Oh, lockboxes aren't gambling ? Sorry, but if they aren't, all the rewards they provide should be equal to the price of a "master key", which isn't in this case. There is always a risk of loss, getting a lesser valued item. That is gambling, in my books.
Does it mean that those lockboxes should disappear ? No, but make it so that minors don't have a chance to obtain master keys for expl. Why not make those bound to account and only purchable by Zen ? Cryptic/PWE can easily verify whether an account has a payment record through CC or paypal. Such adults only can decide if they wanna play the game of lockboxes. They are afteral considered to know what good or bad is for themselves.
The law they are proposing does not prevent all gambling that a kid might get access to. The EU propsed statute states that things are not allowed to be SPECIFICALLY targeted at minors ("direct exhortations to children"). In what way are the lockboxes aimed at kids directly? They aren't; they are in the game where kids can get to them, but they aren't marketed towards anyone specifically.
It's great that you want to look out for everyone's kids, it really is - but the law you are talking about isn't what you think it is. Like I said earlier, at worst they will make the game PEGI 18 and the issue will be closed because the vast majority of players in this game are of the age of majority. It won't even get that far, however, because by no definition was this game designed to be used specifically by minors, and that's what the law is for - to get games that are designed from the ground up to get kids to click the buy button off the market. Games like Tiny Tower, or games by Mobage that are pretty much unplayable without going and buying things with micro transactions.
So how is it people know whats in the next lockbox?
Or are they guessing?
And why do people keep writing redacted like they are too cool for school? Its idiotic.
Not 100% sure, but I'm guessing they are digging into the files (in this case, the ones that came with the pre-patch) and found it in there. I wouldn't even know where to begin looking to figure it out, but some people do. It's hard for MMOs to keep secrets these days.
As for me, I'm good at reading the fine details in what is released to get the answers I'm looking for. For example, I knew before LoR that the next race/faction was the Romulans based on the clues (can't remember what they all were). I'm 98% certain that the next one is [REDACTED]. First clue is in Temporal Ambassador, the people you can ask for help are a Fed, a Klingon, a Romulan (Reman, technically), a Ferengi and a [REDACTED]. The latest clue is in the announcement for the Lifetime Sub sale. You have a shot from the Captain's Table area, with the Letheran captain and the [REDACTED] captain.
So, knowing whats coming is a combination of digging through the game assets and files and analyzing the info that the Devs give us (knowingly or not). Finding and following clues.
What's so hard to grasp the concept of "NO", "FORBIDDEN", "PROHIBITED", "NOT ALLOWED". Whether the company is based in Europe, USA, the moon, the second star left of the sun, if the product that this company is offering is not conform the regulation issued by Europe, it remains forbidden.
That's all fine and good, but this is still an American game run by a Chinese company located on American servers. The EU thus has no jurisdiction. They can claim the game is banned all they want, which I doubt would happen, and yet would have no power to shut the game down.
And why do people keep writing redacted like they are too cool for school?
If you actually post something, there's a good chance that your post will be deleted or the whole thread gets locked. They give us some leeway to give hints for people to go out and search for, but outright posting spoilers isn't tolerated past a point - hence, [REDACTED].
Not 100% sure, but I'm guessing they are digging into the files (in this case, the ones that came with the pre-patch) and found it in there. I wouldn't even know where to begin looking to figure it out, but some people do. It's hard for MMOs to keep secrets these days.
As for me, I'm good at reading the fine details in what is released to get the answers I'm looking for. For example, I knew before LoR that the next race/faction was the Romulans based on the clues (can't remember what they all were). I'm 98% certain that the next one is [REDACTED]. First clue is in Temporal Ambassador, the people you can ask for help are a Fed, a Klingon, a Romulan (Reman, technically), a Ferengi and a [REDACTED]. The latest clue is in the announcement for the Lifetime Sub sale. You have a shot from the Captain's Table area, with the Letheran captain and the [REDACTED] captain.
So, knowing whats coming is a combination of digging through the game assets and files and analyzing the info that the Devs give us (knowingly or not). Finding and following clues.
Agreed ... and you don't even have to be a STO expert to guess that, just remember Star Trek ... Once you have the Feds and the Klingons and the Romulans ( factions which have appeared since TOS - notice that ), which is the major faction left ( which has been appearing since TNG - except for Enterprise of course ) ?
Unless ... considering the Delta Quadrant and what Wiki says , they go ... "Hugh" ;-)
Do you think there'll be a c-store keys discount coming around the corner?
I sure can't wait forXINDI lockboxes to drop XINDI AQUATIC CRUISERS! I wonder if the XINDI lockboxes will give us XINDI-like skills or maybe even XINDI weaponry. I can't wait! Maybe it'll even have a unique XINDI bridge on the XINDI ship. :cool:
Argh.. these random lockbox drops are incredibly annoying.
Can we get an option to shoot them or sell them for dilithium?
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So, you mention exactly HOW you can open boxes for free, and then complain that you can't open boxes for free?
Cryptic is kind enough to give you a method of getting every item in the game via your gameplay (Dilithium, Astral Diamonds, etc). Most other FREE games don't give you that option.
Paying for things like lockboxes and other items is how FREE games are able to generate money to keep the servers running, pay the developers, etc.; did you think that just because it's free for you to play that it's free for them to make and keep running?
You know you can just buy keys with EC right? or better yet buy the ships with EC on the exchange as well. You can earn as much EC as you want unlike dilithium there is no refining cap or time gating. I would however suggest if you are a F2P player you buy the EC cap increase so you can bank up to 1 billion EC.
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Makes me wonder if Arc has some method of upping the probability of a Lockbox drop whenever income for the month is lower than expected.
Buy for 2.9 mil ec on the exchange.
Or be like me, grind dil, convert to zen, buy character slots, grind more dil, end up with 12 tooons producing 96k dil per day=35 keys a week. And if you are smart and sell them on the dil exchange thats 95,5 mil ec/week
EDIT: with 3 character slots (free) you can get 158 zen per day, after 4 days you could get 2 more slots, or wait another 3 and get 4 slots
then with 7 slots, you can get ~410 zen per day, perpetual cycle, you can get INSANE numbers of characters, keys whatever, with a bit of dil grinding.
12 slots=635 zen PER DAY. $6.35 in zen per day, save that and you can buy anything quickly. 10 days....i can have a ship pack. 5 days and i can get a single ship. with NO REAL MONEY
True, but sadly in Europe is offering of means of gambling forbidden. Even so that selling lotery tickets or those "scratch cards" to minors is not allowed, no matter if that minor is telling that he/she is buying it for their parents. Does it mean that the minor is going to use that ticket or rip it to pieces and throw it in the trash bin, no, but it isn't allowed.
The EU doesn't have much power here, as both PWE and Cryptic are US held companies. Perfect World has a smart business plan in that regard; while there IS a euro branch of their company, it looks like it operates independently from the US and asian ones.
The COULD go as far as blocking the game's IP addresses, but if they did that they would have to block literally every MMO since by your broad definition any sort of random reward structure for pay (i.e. loot drops from a WoW raid or mining in EVE Online) would be gambling.
Ok, report them. Simplest solution for Cryptic and PWE, block access to the game from all European ISPs. Problem solved.
We had this debate couple years back when lock boxes came out about offering this form of gambling to minors. They didn't listen then, they won't listen now, because frankly they don't care that they are promoting a gambling system to minors. Morally it is wrong, but not much you can do really. Ironic this discussion has come back around...
STOP THE DAMN BOXES.......
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If they would do that, they violate another important European law, which clearly states :
"Everyone that has offered their personal information to any kind of database/site, has to be granted at anytime access to this information".
No matter how you slice it or dice it : Offering means of gambling to minors is forbidden in Europe. Legal age is 18 years or up for gambling. It wouldn't be an issue if your payment record are being used as verification, expl. Credit Card or ID, but Cryptic/PWE is also accepting vouchers in form of expl. Paysafecard as payment and here is the verification of age isn't granted.
I don't think that the millions of people there who like these games will appreciate that, but hey, report away - I don't live there. Once the dev shops over there all relocate to non-EU nations and that revenue stream and those jobs all go away from the already-economically-challenged EU, maybe they will wake up and put the onus on protecting children back onto the parents where it belongs.
You seem to forget the warning that EU Commission has issued the last time concerning F2P games : http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-187_en.htm. A second warning is heading towards the software, gaming industry in general concerning the EULA.
Didn't forget, just didn't care. I'll be over on this side of the pond playing my games no matter what, you guys can sit over there and not play them because the EU tells you you can't all you want. We have our own issues here in the US, a game company offering a random drop item that kids could potentially get to if their parents aren't stopping them is pretty far down the list. Given that several countries in the EU are about to hit economic collapse, you would figure that the EU would have more important things to do than parent everyone's kids as well, but everyone has their own priorities. I bet the 27% of Greeks who are out of work really appreciate that their government's time and their taxes are going to protect their kids from the evils of lockboxes.
Other games you are gambling to get the highest score all games have a form of gambing then in face of this evidence all gaming is gamblingso would you expect the EULA to ban gaming?
Sounds like it.
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In the absolutely worst case, they change the EULA by making the game rated PEGI 18 and/or add a warning screen during startup to state specifically that there is content not appropriate for minors in the game (probably enticing MORE minors to want to play) and moving the blame for minors playing it to the parents where it belongs. In the end the vocal minority of STO players who feel that lockboxes ruin their gameplay will remain disgruntled, and we will have at most an extra 2 seconds of watching another logo/warning screen when the game starts up.
What's so hard to grasp the concept of "NO", "FORBIDDEN", "PROHIBITED", "NOT ALLOWED". Whether the company is based in Europe, USA, the moon, the second star left of the sun, if the product that this company is offering is not conform the regulation issued by Europe, it remains forbidden. A medical drug might be regulated in the US, but it doesn't mean that it is regulated in Europe and allowed to use. Our economy has nothing to do with it. In fact, the one of America isn't that great either, but they do have also a gambling law, which is more severe then ours. Oh, lockboxes aren't gambling ? Sorry, but if they aren't, all the rewards they provide should be equal to the price of a "master key", which isn't in this case. There is always a risk of loss, getting a lesser valued item. That is gambling, in my books.
Does it mean that those lockboxes should disappear ? No, but make it so that minors don't have a chance to obtain master keys for expl. Why not make those bound to account and only purchable by Zen ? Cryptic/PWE can easily verify whether an account has a payment record through CC or paypal. Such adults only can decide if they wanna play the game of lockboxes. They are afteral considered to know what good or bad is for themselves.
The law they are proposing does not prevent all gambling that a kid might get access to. The EU propsed statute states that things are not allowed to be SPECIFICALLY targeted at minors ("direct exhortations to children"). In what way are the lockboxes aimed at kids directly? They aren't; they are in the game where kids can get to them, but they aren't marketed towards anyone specifically.
It's great that you want to look out for everyone's kids, it really is - but the law you are talking about isn't what you think it is. Like I said earlier, at worst they will make the game PEGI 18 and the issue will be closed because the vast majority of players in this game are of the age of majority. It won't even get that far, however, because by no definition was this game designed to be used specifically by minors, and that's what the law is for - to get games that are designed from the ground up to get kids to click the buy button off the market. Games like Tiny Tower, or games by Mobage that are pretty much unplayable without going and buying things with micro transactions.
Or are they guessing?
And why do people keep writing redacted like they are too cool for school?
EDIT: Nevermind, i found the 'leaked' information.
Not 100% sure, but I'm guessing they are digging into the files (in this case, the ones that came with the pre-patch) and found it in there. I wouldn't even know where to begin looking to figure it out, but some people do. It's hard for MMOs to keep secrets these days.
As for me, I'm good at reading the fine details in what is released to get the answers I'm looking for. For example, I knew before LoR that the next race/faction was the Romulans based on the clues (can't remember what they all were). I'm 98% certain that the next one is [REDACTED]. First clue is in Temporal Ambassador, the people you can ask for help are a Fed, a Klingon, a Romulan (Reman, technically), a Ferengi and a [REDACTED]. The latest clue is in the announcement for the Lifetime Sub sale. You have a shot from the Captain's Table area, with the Letheran captain and the [REDACTED] captain.
So, knowing whats coming is a combination of digging through the game assets and files and analyzing the info that the Devs give us (knowingly or not). Finding and following clues.
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If you actually post something, there's a good chance that your post will be deleted or the whole thread gets locked. They give us some leeway to give hints for people to go out and search for, but outright posting spoilers isn't tolerated past a point - hence, [REDACTED].
Agreed ... and you don't even have to be a STO expert to guess that, just remember Star Trek ... Once you have the Feds and the Klingons and the Romulans ( factions which have appeared since TOS - notice that ), which is the major faction left ( which has been appearing since TNG - except for Enterprise of course ) ?
Unless ... considering the Delta Quadrant and what Wiki says , they go ... "Hugh" ;-)
Do you think there'll be a c-store keys discount coming around the corner?
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I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
Take a wild guess. :rolleyes:
Can we get an option to shoot them or sell them for dilithium?
So, you're thinkin Xindi I'm guessin..... :P