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leerobbo1
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Hi folks,
Ive just hit level 50 on my first toon and I'm trying to do the omega reputation stuff.
What's the best way to earn lots of omega marks?
Ive just hit level 50 on my first toon and I'm trying to do the omega reputation stuff.
What's the best way to earn lots of omega marks?
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Do some on normal first, to get the feel of it and understand what the mission requires. Elite changes the difficulty and enemy ship type (some probes become spheres, some spheres, become cubes, etc..).
And if you search for walktroughs there's some very useful information as well. Some of it no longer applies because nowadays you get to do more damage and endure more as well - meaning some tatics aren't needed or relevant anymore) - but the basics will help you know what needs to be done.
Thanks I will have a look into this later. I did do one pve yesterday but ended up with Romulan Marks lol
If you click the mission description, it tells you what it awards, on the right. Also, on the list, they have an icon of the marks (you can order by that as well) provided.
Also note that to get the equipment from the reputation, you also need neural processors. Although you do get some in Normal STF randomly, they usual way to get them is Elite, so eventually Elite is a must.
For Both - it is a very good idea to be capable of soloing a Normal Borg Cube prior to starting ESTFs, and Ker'rat or Borg Red Alerts will offer plenty of opportunities to find your way to do this.
ICE. Kill Tac Cube. next, everyone goes to one side. 1 person takes the Cube, 3 people attack the generators, 1 Gravity Wells the Nanite Spheres, then everyone hits the transformer. Process is repeated for the other side. Once both transformers are down, 1 person distracts Tac Cube while everyone else destroys the gate, then everyone attacks the Tac Cube.
If Nanites heal the transformer, you fail the optional, which means you just get 60 marks, and no bonus 15 marks, so don't quit over it.
KVE. Kill Tac Cube. Next, 1 person is on probe hunting duty, while the other 4 take a Cube/4 generator/Transformer group each. Once both transformers are down, destroy gate. once both gates are down, and all probes have been eliminated, Donatra's Scimitar will appear. Do NOT use decloaking bridge officer powers, they don't work on her. Instead stay about 6 km away, line up all your debuffs and nail her before she cloaks.
If she cloaks, wait for her to re-appear - you can tell she's back because she will attempt to Thalaron Pulse everyone at once. Evaisive out of the way, spam debuffs, take her down.
If probes/spheres enter the time travel vortex, then you fail the optional. If 10 get through, you fail the mission, but this only happens if no one does probe duty.
Boff abilities - Hazard Emitters to clear Borg shield remover and Plasma DoT. Attack Pattern Beta to make everyone do more damage. Gravity Well for Probe/Sphere control. Rest is your preference.
During the Summer Event on Risa, you can also hatch 'Eggs' and raise them into 'Senior Birds' through Doff assignments to turn in for Marks of your choice. A easy way to get those Marks...
If you are not in a fleet, or having trouble finding fleet mates that will help with it, then just post in this thread when you would like some help. There are a lot of players, including myself, who are more than happy to help teach others how to do them. Besides, we were all new to them at some point.
Also, keep in mind that it is just a game. People can make mistakes, even the best of the best do. If you do go into Elite, and make a mistake, don't worry. If someone does rage against you, harass you, or anything like that, just report and block them. There are some that take the game too seriously. Lol.
The most important thing to do is have fun, and enjoy spending time playing the game with others. As time goes by, you will find that all of the endgame content is easy, once you get the hang of it. Well, the only exception is probably No-Win, and The Hive. (Which reminds me, you might want to stay away from The Hive Onslaught till you get good at the other three STFs. It can be very difficult for beginners.)
Also, there is a difference in a STF, and the PVEs. If you open the PVE window, and find the tab that lets you pick rewards, you can uncheck the ones you are not after. This lets you sort them out better.
If you uncheck all of them but the ones that say they reward Omega Marks only, those are the STFs. You have three ground, and three space missions. The ground ones I recommend waiting on till you get some good ground gear, if you don't have it yet. You will need a frequency remodulator for them, and it can be a little tricky using one while fighting the Borg in these missions.
Good luck, and happy gaming.
It reminds me of another game I played yesterday in which I had the misfortune of being teamed up with one of those twice. We lost both games to the other team and in both instances he decided to blame everyone else on the team. Funny thing is that when you looked at the statistics he had the fewest damage dealt, the less kills, the most deaths, etc... Ironically, he was the handicap to the others.
Appologies for the off-topic.
That is true. However, the larger amount of Dil from the elite STFs also helps. If I am not mistaken, the elite STFs still offer the highest Dil rewards. They do have the one hour cool down though, instead of 30 mins. (Really wish they would make them 30 mins also. Lol.)
Azure Nebula Rescue does not offer Omega marks though. It offers New Romulus Mark (a pathetic amount excluding the daily bonus) or I think Fleet marks. Unless something change in the last two days.
The only space elite STFs that offers 960 vs 480 dilithium that I am aware of are Crystalline Catastrophe Elite (30 minute cool down) and the 4 elite Borg STFs (1 hour cool down each).
I stopped playing The Breach Elite when Cryptic bumped up the difficulty level far too much to be playable / enjoyable so I am not sure how much dilithium it rewards (if any). Storming the Spire Elite only rewards 240 dilithium.
To do probe duty on both sides of khitomer vortex you'll need a decently mobile ship and ideally gravity well, often you get a ship doing probe duty on each side.
Prior to playing two different toons (one Fed the other KDF) I would set aside two hours to do the Borg: Infected Space Elite (ICE), Borg: Khitomer Vortex Elite (KASE) and Crystalline Catastrophe Elite (CCE or CE). Excluding the daily bonus marks that meant I was able to farm the following in the two hours:
Omega Marks = 240 (failed optional objective) to 300
Dilithium = 5,760
Nakura or Fleet Marks (from CCE) = 120
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You can also earn omega marks during the Risa Summer Event. To do so you need raise birds from eggs that you find during the "Risian Idol Hunt" starts at about 23 minutes after every hour. However, finding an egg is totally random. One time I ran the race 4 times on a single character and got as many as 6 eggs, other times nothing. The main goal is to get "Lohlunat Favors" which can be used to buy stuff like enhanced / superior floater or powerboards used only on Risa for the events. Or swimwear for your toon.
You can only raise 1 egg per day. There are 4 stages to raising your bird: egg, hatchling, fledgling, adult and senior. Each stage takes 24 hours. The older the bird the more marks you can get when you trade it in for a "Mark Box". These boxes offers a choice of marks; omega being one of the choices. Turning in a senior bird will reward 60 marks. Turning in a tufted senior bird will reward 100 marks. "Tuft" is a mutation that can occur during the aging process; the chances of it happening depends on the Duty Officers (Doff) that you use.
I think you can also raise feathered monkeys for "Mark Boxes" as well. Never done them, but it is related to be powerboard race which I think stats around 40 minutes after every hour.
Not the most efficient way to earn marks in my opinion, but at least it's another option.
I simply queue up the missions and play them with whomever. Typically not a problem for me 99% of the time. I don't get pissed off if the optional objective failed. However, I have experienced a few of time where people simply left the mission when the optional objective failed. That happened even late in the mission where if they bothered stay another 4 minutes they would have gotten 60 marks for their efforts. Instead, they decided to simply leave, take the 1 hour AFK cool down penalty and get no reward.
Can't say what my DSP is. However, if I look at my phasers' stats they do almost 900 points of damage each; unless I am reading it wrong.
How do I find out how much DSP I am actually doing in a mission?
Okay, I'll Google around for one I suppose.
If it is not really accurate, then I suppose I can use the combat log parser when playing ICE and KASE several times to determine what my average DPS is for each of those eSFTs.
The parsers can be fooled by inaccurate data. For example, if you can find an enemy that is shielded by a nanite generator, or transformer, then each hit you do will get counted, but it will not do any damage. Same for hitting multiple targets' shields in an AOE attack like FAW, but not killing them. Those hits do nothing, unless you can kill them before they regenerate shields.
A few of my friends and I stopped using them after I showed them I could get the higher DPS in the Vortex, and only help kill 2 things in the whole mission. It was easy, I sat below the gate where it couldn't hit me, and attacked nothing but it the whole time.
Then, when the last transformer dropped for it, I helped take it and Donatra out. Hi had the highest DPS, and noe one else was even near me. Even the players on the other side of the map (who didn't have as accurate reading as the two with me, and myself because of distance) were showing I had numbers far higher than they ever got in their Scimitars. And they had higher DPS builds on theirs.
In STO, the parsers don't really help you all that much, unless you can use it to test your DPS against a single target that is not shielded by a generator, or transformer. Also, the person with the highest DPS is not always the one that is killing most of the enemies. I can kill the same enemies faster in a STF with my forward facing Dual Beam Bank/Cannon build than if I went with all beam arrays. However, the parser showers about half the DPS is put out.
What I suggest is first getting use to the way to run STFs. Then, you can focus on your build. This will benefit you in a few ways.
1- As you use the Omega Marks to level up your rep system, you will get access to better consoles, and weapons or gear.
2- You will also unlock passive abilities from the rep system that can either help with survivability, or DPS.
Also, I recommend that you run all of your rep systems at the same time on the same toon. All you need to do is run one mission per day for the marks to start at least one 20 hour mission, and a couple 1 hour ones. As you unlock them also, you will get access to yet more options of gear, weapons, and even consoles that you can buy to use. Also, you unlock more passive abilities to pick from.
If you spend resources to max out the DPS you can get now, it will only last a short time before you will have access to better things. Patience might help you out in the long run.
Still, it is your choice as to how you want to play. It is your captain's story, not anyone else. The most important thing is that you enjoy playing, and do what you like. There is a good bit of information in this thread. Some from different view points. To find what you prefer, it may even require trying out multiple suggestions, and seeing which one you like.
Who knows, you might be able to find a combination of everything that no one else thought of yet.
Since they added the little Daily Bonus crate, pretty much anything that rewards Marks will get you enough to do your Daily + one Hourly. If all you want is to progress in Omega, you could get by with pretty much anything, even just doing a lap around Defera doing the Hard missions (make sure to replicate and use a Frequency Remodulator). The Red Alerts in sector space would also suffice, though Defera has the advantage of awarding nice amounts of Fleet Marks as well as the minimum Marks needed to cover Omega Rep advancement.
Of course, the suggestion to ask your Fleet is also a good one, since you can usually get a few folks willing to walk you through the missions. If you are pugging, tell your team you are new to the mission and ask for tips if they have any; you won't always get an answer, but even watching and providing support fire to one of the others should give you some grasp of what's going on. Just remember, if someone turns to ranting in chat when something goes wrong (instead of watching the situation and responding to changes)... they probably aren't the players to emulate. You will see pugs go wrong, but those are also the ones that teach you how they go wrong and what can be done to save them.
Overall, though... yeah, aim at the Elite STF's. Those reward the most Omega Marks and decent dilithium as well, making purchasing the Rep Gear easier.
Ship was very underpowered compared to the other players. I'll have to work on that .
I think I'll be posting more questions on the academy .. Getting to level 50 is just the start
Of this game .
Put your ship build into this: http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/ then post a link here and then we can start pointing out changes to make.
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=robo2_0
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
I've only been playing since February, myself, but can already spot a few things that need changing. I was having real trouble at the start as well, but someone took the time out to help my initial build and give some theory, so I'll pass on what I've learned plus my suggestions. I'm sure some of the more experienced members will probably have other things to say (particularly on boff skills and power).
Science ships are probably the single toughest type to get right, but can be really rewarding once you do (I use a recon DSD on my main, for reference). You won't be topping DPS charts (...yet), but can still put out one heck of a lot of hurting if done right, even with cheap gear.
Tyken's rift is good for drains but in elite stfs, you may want to swap that for gravity well 1 and replace the energy drain in cmd sci for a grav well 2 or 3 if you are a science officer
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If you need Batleth(or whatever weapon of choice) practice go find some Klingons. They don't have any particularly annoying abilities and make reasonably good punching bags. The Voth BZ is another good place.
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Thanks for this.. Im gonna give these tips a try this weekend.