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Proposal: Depth Charge Phasers

holyknight22holyknight22 Member Posts: 174 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Federation Discussion
Greetings,

In the original series episode "Balance of Terror", we see the Enterprise use phasers that had a blast radius. These phaser blasts had a similar effect to those of depth charges used by the navy. I think it's time for these wonderful weapons to make a reappearance in the game. They could be used as excellent pet killer and maybe a new tactical ability for high yield phaser blast.

So guys what do you think?
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  • castlestarcastlestar Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I like that idea a lot. Hope they beef up the bounse point on phasers too.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    This item exists, it's on the Kumari.
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    doffingcomrade wrote: »
    This item exists, it's on the Kumari.

    the nadion saturation bomb off the Patrol Escort Refit also acts like that.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The Bio-Molecular Phaser/Disruptor Turret w/ the 3pc Counter Command Ordnance Heavy Bio-Molecular Turret Barrage...
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'm down for Depth Charge Phasers as a weapon only on Constitution-class ships :cool:
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited June 2014
    Didn't the Kazon have something like this in a Voyager episode?
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  • hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    The Bio-Molecular Phaser/Disruptor Turret w/ the 3pc Counter Command Ordnance Heavy Bio-Molecular Turret Barrage...

    All that and a bowl of Grits !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,685 Community Moderator
    edited June 2014
    Hm... meanwhile in the 24th Century, the Enterprise had to resort to firing randomly and hoping to score a hit on the Scimitar...

    I mgiht have to watch Balance of Terror again sometime. I don't remember that. Then again... I don't actually know if I saw that episode. Only one I really remember is Trouble with Tribbles...
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Rectify that. Balance of Terror is one of the better TOS episodes.
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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I like the OPs idea. Adding canon stuff is always good for STO
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  • holyknight22holyknight22 Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Balance of Terror, Trouble with Tribbles, The Doomsday Machine, City on the Edge of Forever, Amok Time and perhaps The Ultimate Computer are the best of the original series and definitely worth watching.

    I realize that I was extremely vague in the original thread, but giving it some thought here is what I propose.

    Type: Beam Charge
    Rate of Fire: Slower than Cannons/Arrays but faster than standard torpedoes.
    Special Effects: Has a 2k blast radius (or same blast radius as heavy torps/tri-cobalts)

    New Tactical Officer ability:
    Beam: Blanket Pattern - Causes Beam Charges to fire in a broad pattern (think Torpedo Spread with Phasers) at targets within a 180 degree arc.

    Just more food for thought.
  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    holyknight22 wrote: »
    Balance of Terror, Trouble with Tribbles, The Doomsday Machine, City on the Edge of Forever, Amok Time and perhaps The Ultimate Computer are the best of the original series and definitely worth watching.

    Thinking about it, it's probably my favorite TOS episode. Ended up rewatching it again after linking it.
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  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    You never saw past that episode as it was in infancy.
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  • pweistheworstpweistheworst Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    holyknight22 wrote: »
    Balance of Terror, Trouble with Tribbles, The Doomsday Machine, City on the Edge of Forever, Amok Time and perhaps The Ultimate Computer are the best of the original series and definitely worth watching.

    I realize that I was extremely vague in the original thread, but giving it some thought here is what I propose.

    Type: Beam Charge
    Rate of Fire: Slower than Cannons/Arrays but faster than standard torpedoes.
    Special Effects: Has a 2k blast radius (or same blast radius as heavy torps/tri-cobalts)

    New Tactical Officer ability:
    Beam: Blanket Pattern - Causes Beam Charges to fire in a broad pattern (think Torpedo Spread with Phasers) at targets within a 180 degree arc.

    Just more food for thought.

    I absolutely LOVE this idea. It gives beam weapons something else to offset the lower burst damage and lower DPS compared to DHCs and it takes something we've seen in the Trek universe and puts it into the game.
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    holyknight22 wrote: »
    Balance of Terror, Trouble with Tribbles, The Doomsday Machine, City on the Edge of Forever, Amok Time and perhaps The Ultimate Computer are the best of the original series and definitely worth watching.

    I realize that I was extremely vague in the original thread, but giving it some thought here is what I propose.

    Type: Beam Charge
    Rate of Fire: Slower than Cannons/Arrays but faster than standard torpedoes.
    Special Effects: Has a 2k blast radius (or same blast radius as heavy torps/tri-cobalts)

    New Tactical Officer ability:
    Beam: Blanket Pattern - Causes Beam Charges to fire in a broad pattern (think Torpedo Spread with Phasers) at targets within a 180 degree arc.

    Just more food for thought.
    I fully agree with pweistheworst, nice idea!
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  • bds007bds007 Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    To OP, the "proximity blast" of the phasers in Balance of Terror was essentially a photon torpedo prior to the later inclusion in their armory. The FX was the same as a torpedo rather than the true phaser.

    Not that I am against the proposal.
  • jrwithjrwith Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    there's a new torpedo like that mentioned in the dev log for season 9.5, photon torpedo with AoE attached to it.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,942 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    or you could just understand that they used the Photon SFX incorrectly. Torpedo spread is/was suppose to function as a depth charge. shoot a bunch of rounds out and they detonate on proximity
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  • holyknight22holyknight22 Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    or you could just understand that they used the Photon SFX incorrectly. Torpedo spread is/was suppose to function as a depth charge. shoot a bunch of rounds out and they detonate on proximity

    I understand your point; however, the episode in question completely disagrees with this assertion. Throughout the episode, they emphasize the phasers, show phaser control room, and nothing resembling traditional photon torpedoes appear in the episode. The remastered version of the series keeps the same type of effects, but after that episode phasers take on their blue beam version and torpedoes fire red torpedoes that we typical associate with ST.
  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Hm... meanwhile in the 24th Century, the Enterprise had to resort to firing randomly and hoping to score a hit on the Scimitar...

    Doesn't surprise me as it seems like they had some kind of tech down grade between the TOS and TNG as in TOS they could travel to the edge of the galaxy and the center of the galaxy in a few days while Voyager needed decades to cover that kind of distance, and TOS era ships could take a pounding and still be mostly intact while TNG era ships had a warp core breach if you looked at them funny.

    Damned federation budget cuts. :mad:
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,685 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    Actually... between TOS and TNG the Warp scale was altered, setting warp 10 as the ultimate speed limit, which if the TNG scale was applied to TOS... the Enterprise violated that on a regular basis I believe.
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