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Next Mirror Romulan Ship?

davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Romulan Discussion
I was thinking, which will be the next Mirror lockbox ship? We have the Three initial ships(Haakona/Ha'apax and its component ships), the Dhelan, and the Mogai. Will the Next one be the Big D'D, the T'Varo, or the Ar'Kif/Ar'Kala?
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    my guess is tvaro, the d'deridex might be a bit tricky to mirror. Ar'Kif would surly be last
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    D'deridex seems the most likely, turned into a straight-up engineering platform. I can't see them putting a ship with Enhanced Battlecloak or a bonus-hangar as a mere Mirror ship. Maybe if they stripped those extras though, might see them boxed some day.
  • syndonaisyndonai Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Scimitar.

    Only because I want the skin for it, no other reason.
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  • chrisbrown12009chrisbrown12009 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It should be DD. the would give us tvaro and EBC free so little. and the Arkif is a strech although an engineering focused one could happen. IF they were start, they would do a mirror DD, uping the turn rate and giving it 4 tactical consoles, making a true romulan battle cruiser.
  • adwynythadwynyth Member Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Before they "mirror" anymore, they really need to address the lack of choice, especially at the earlier tiers.

    We need more variety at T2, T3, and T4...especially the first two. Right now, at T2, you have the choice of...well...the Dhelan and the C-Store Dhelan (Dhael). And at T3, the Mogai...and the C-Store Mogai (Valdore).

    Not a cruiser-y one in the bunch, and maybe a bit too science-y for some.

    Since you can't buy any of your allied faction's ships without dilithium (or zen), that leaves uncomfortably few choices.

    That said, my vote would be for the T'varo.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    chrisbrown12009 wrote: »
    If they were start, they would do a mirror DD, uping the turn rate and giving it 4 tactical consoles, making a true romulan battle cruiser.

    Romulans already have a surplus of tac-heavy ships though, plus the Mirror versions of the Dhelan and Mogai both put their boff layouts heavily into two branches then really light on the third. Maybe instead set up a Mirror DD with Ens Tac, then split the rest of the boffs between Eng and Sci and maybe Sensor Analysis. That would be something much more interesting than yet another DPS boat.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    warbirds have no synergy with cruiser and sci ship roles, everything that makes them warbirds optimizes them for quick in and out tactical assault. not staying uncloaked for long periods of time, not tanking fire instead of evading it and cloaking, not being a healer healing other warbirds, because they they cloak and escape instead of tank. warbirds are tactical ships, period. warbirds without tac COMs are not very good. there's no need for more cruisers and sci ship warbirds, because they would suck too.

    if you want sci ships and cruisers for your romulan characters, choose from the warp core equipped lockbox and cross faction ships
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  • guriphuguriphu Member Posts: 494 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    A mirror D'D would be fun... even if it's not very good, it's the iconic ship of the faction, and more of them being around is a good thing.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I would go for a Mirror T'Varo.
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    guriphu wrote: »
    A mirror D'D would be fun... even if it's not very good, it's the iconic ship of the faction, and more of them being around is a good thing.

    I would agree if they didn't have a stupidly large/oversized bounding box that gets stuck inside other ships. I love flying mine, but I hate going anywhere near sector space with it.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    warbirds have no synergy with cruiser and sci ship roles, everything that makes them warbirds optimizes them for quick in and out tactical assault. not staying uncloaked for long periods of time, not tanking fire instead of evading it and cloaking, not being a healer healing other warbirds, because they they cloak and escape instead of tank. warbirds are tactical ships, period. warbirds without tac COMs are not very good. there's no need for more cruisers and sci ship warbirds, because they would suck too.

    if you want sci ships and cruisers for your romulan characters, choose from the warp core equipped lockbox and cross faction ships

    Yes. The advantages of the Romulan Battle Cloak promote cloaked warfare and evasion. Frankly, tanking Warbirds are a failure in concept, and fail to take advantage of the Romulan Battle Cloak and the massive offensive boosts that brings.

    You might as well roll Standard Fed or KDF toons flying a 4-5 ENG Cruiser.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Scimitar. To humiliate the Klingons, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of the feds.

    Other than that ? Nothing. I already have all the rom ship anyway.
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  • catliketypingcatliketyping Member Posts: 611
    edited May 2014
    Mirror D7!

    ;)
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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    How about a mirror D'D with a cmdr tac with Lt.cmdr sci and eng? :D
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The only Romulan ships that have yet been released as Mirror versions are the T4 Ar'Kif and the D'deridex. Between the two, I would likely prefer a Mirror Ar'kif retrofit since the Double D turns worse than a rock.

    I recently picked up the Mirror Mogai for my Rom Sci toon for 900k or 1 mil ECs. It's more focused on tactical than science, but I like the looks of the Mogai which I am currently flying for my level 27 toon. Since I have not unboxed the miror Mogai I can always put back on the exchange for sale. It should offer a decent change of pace from the T5 Ha'nom once I am able to fly T5 ships.
  • solemkofsolemkof Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    For their mirror universe counterparts, the Dhelan and Mogai just switched their BOffstations (with the Universal locked into a specific branch) and consoles. Since I don't want a mirror D'D because of the inconvenience its size causes in STO, my guess is a mirrored T'varo and Ar'Kif:

    MU Ar'Kif Tactical Carrier Warbird Retrofit
    Com tac, LtCom tac, Ens tac, Lt eng, Lt sci
    3/3/3 tac/eng/sci consoles

    MU T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit
    Com tac, Lt tac, LtCom eng, Ens eng, Lt sci
    4/2/3 tac/eng/sci consoles
    (perhaps no Enhanced Battlecloak)

    with everything else equal to their prime universe counterparts.
  • ussboleynussboleyn Member Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Mirror T'varo

    Cmdr Tac
    Lt. Cmdr Eng
    Lt. Eng
    Lt. Sci
    Ens Sci

    Mirror DD

    Cmdr Eng
    Lt. Cmdr Eng
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Ens Sci
    Ens Sci
    ≡/\≡
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I just want Mirror D'Deridex for the black hull material alone. Don't care about the stats, as I'll stick to the Fleet version anyway.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ussboleyn wrote: »
    Mirror T'varo

    Cmdr Tac
    Lt. Cmdr Eng
    Lt. Eng
    Lt. Sci
    Ens Sci

    Mirror DD

    Cmdr Eng
    Lt. Cmdr Eng
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Ens Sci
    Ens Sci

    both of those would BTFO even the fleet versions of these ships, yes please
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    adwynyth wrote: »
    Before they "mirror" anymore, they really need to address the lack of choice, especially at the earlier tiers.

    We need more variety at T2, T3, and T4...especially the first two. Right now, at T2, you have the choice of...well...the Dhelan and the C-Store Dhelan (Dhael). And at T3, the Mogai...and the C-Store Mogai (Valdore).

    Not a cruiser-y one in the bunch, and maybe a bit too science-y for some.

    Since you can't buy any of your allied faction's ships without dilithium (or zen), that leaves uncomfortably few choices.

    That said, my vote would be for the T'varo.

    Except that you forgot the Ar'kif/Ar'kala.
    senatorvreenak wrote: »
    How about a mirror D'D with a cmdr tac with Lt.cmdr sci and eng? :D

    The CDR Tac on a Crusier or Crusier hybrid will never happen.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Here is what I have come up with based on other's input.

    MU D'Deridex:
    Same base stats
    Console slots: 4 tac, 4 eng, 1 sci
    BOFF slots: CDR Eng, LTCDR Eng, LTCDR Tac, Ens Sci, Ens universal

    MU T'Varo:
    Similar to base stats, "normal" Romulan battlecloak. NO EBC.
    Console slots: 4 tac, 2 eng, 3 sci
    BOFF slots: CDR Tac, LTCDR Eng, LT Eng, LT Sci, Ens Sci

    MU Ar'Kir:
    Similar to base stats. I'm inclined to say NO hangar.
    Console slots: 3 tac, 3 eng, 3 sci
    BOFF slots: CDR Tac, LTCDR Tac, Lt. Eng, Lt. Sci, Ens Eng.
  • firelordzx5firelordzx5 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    D'Deridex, I would love to fly a mirror version of it
  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I hope in big double D.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    Scimitar. To humiliate the Klingons, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of the feds.

    Other than that ? Nothing. I already have all the rom ship anyway.

    IF they did that, here would be my suggestion:

    T5 SubAdmiral Lower Half
    -10% hull, shields
    +5 power all systems
    Consoles: 3 Tac, 2 Eng, 3 Sci
    BOFFs: CDR Tac, LTCDR Eng, LT Sci, Lt. Tac, Ens Universal
  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I would like to see a Mirror version of the Haakona with the dual victor device.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coolheadal wrote: »
    I would like to see a Mirror version of the Haakona with the dual victor device.

    There already is one: The Mirror Ha'Apax. The Haakona console will work on it.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tmassx wrote: »
    I hope in big double D.

    That'll be fun. :D
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,014 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'm guessing either the T'varo or the D'Deridex myself
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    • theonetruetomtheonetruetom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited June 2014
      adwynyth wrote: »
      Before they "mirror" anymore, they really need to address the lack of choice, especially at the earlier tiers.

      We need more variety at T2, T3, and T4...especially the first two. Right now, at T2, you have the choice of...well...the Dhelan and the C-Store Dhelan (Dhael). And at T3, the Mogai...and the C-Store Mogai (Valdore).

      Not a cruiser-y one in the bunch, and maybe a bit too science-y for some.

      Since you can't buy any of your allied faction's ships without dilithium (or zen), that leaves uncomfortably few choices.

      That said, my vote would be for the T'varo.

      Not to rain on your parade, but we do get choices at tier 2 and 3: Allied ships. Specifically, allied C-store ships. My KDF-affiliated Reman rolled around for 10 levels in a Varanus, and some of my Fed-aligned Romulans have been known to fly the Ambassador class in lieu of a proper in-faction cruiser at that level.

      In addition, the game isn't about tier 2 and 3 and 4 ships. It's about endgame. As are all MMOs. The best advice I could give for someone looking for Romulan ship choice is, quite frankly "hit 50. Spend Zen or EC on ship modules."

      That said, we really quite desperately need a solid tier 5 science warbird that isn't the Aves class or its variants or the Fleet Ha'nom. The R'Mor doesn't count as it lacks the two defining features of a warbird: Battle cloak and a Singularity tray. The mirror ships don't count as they don't have Commander level Science seats (the defining feature of a proper science vessel). The Aves is a reskinned Ar'Kif without the hangar bay and with a gimmick (albeit a pretty cool and useful one) and a singularity tray that's *still* in the wrong order. Additionally, it's not free anymore. The closest thing to a t5 science warbird we have is the Fleet Ha'nom, and I refuse to buy that because the Haakona doesn't reduce the cost of the Fleet versions of its components (for some reason I will never fathom).

      But yeah, we won't see the Mirror T'Varo for quite some time. At least, not an exact mirror. It won't have EBC.
    • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
      edited June 2014
      I would like a mirror DD. Only because I shamelessly want to fly one without paying zen or converting Dil for it:D

      No mirror Tvaro though, at least not with the enhanced cloak. It is just too much to sell outside of the zen store IMO
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