i have an interest in the Galor, but i want to know if it is worth the EC for buying one.
can someone experienced with it give me the ups and downs of it?
I have galor on my tac w/ classic a2b built and it is awesome. If you have EC`s I would sa go for it. Also galor comes with 4 sprial wave disruptors which are great too. BUT if you dont have nuff ec`s or dont`t feel like spending ~200m than buy 4 modules and take avenger. its prety much galor with lower shield mod, bit slower but more hull and 4 tac console slot.
If you own an Fleet Avenger/ FACR / FAHCR it's not really worth it. The three mentioned ships aren't too far behind (i'd even say the Avenger is better than the Galor) to be worth 200M ECs (Or whatever a Galor is worth nowadays).
Pros and Cons...
+ Better shields and good turn rate (Compared to above mentioned Cruisers)
* Less Tactical (don't want to put this to + or -, since it isn't really a downside)
- Prize, weaker Hull, no ability to load DHCs (if you'd want that)
In comparison to Klingon ships i might add, since the Mogh behaves like the Avenger, i'd also say it's "better" than the galor.
EDIT: Forgot to add the Fleet Tor'Kaht which is IMO also comparable to the Galor. Might lack a bit of survivability, but still it's a great ship.
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edited May 2014
I think the main draw for the Galor is the Spiral Wave Disruptors. Having a Galor means you have access to those beam arrays in the Dilithium Store, and those can be mounted to any ship.
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ok so all this mention of fed cruiser makes me remember two things:
this is for my ROMULAN TAC
im not asking to have it compared to other ships since i know there are plenty of better ships, i just want to know if it is worth to add to my rather big collection of lobi/lockbox ships
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,669Community Moderator
edited May 2014
Might be worth it for a Romulan. I don't have a Galor myself, but I have a fleetmate who has one, and he's deadly with that thing. It also doesn't have the same power issues a Warbird has.
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Just for discussions sake, I don't get why people continue to say spiral wave disruptors are good. Aren't they just disruptors with a phaser proc? So you take a good proc and add a useless proc and get awesome? Doesn't make sense to me why someone would get this incredibly overpriced ship "just for the spiral waves".
ok so all this mention of fed cruiser makes me remember two things:
this is for my ROMULAN TAC
im not asking to have it compared to other ships since i know there are plenty of better ships, i just want to know if it is worth to add to my rather big collection of lobi/lockbox ships
My bad then If you want to collect it, go on, it's a good ship. But performance-wise there are definitely better for the RR (*cough*scimitar*cough*).
And if you're asking for "if it is worth it" not concerned of performance, there's nobody except for yourself to make the decision
Just for discussions sake, I don't get why people continue to say spiral wave disruptors are good. Aren't they just disruptors with a phaser proc? So you take a good proc and add a useless proc and get awesome? Doesn't make sense to me why someone would get this incredibly overpriced ship "just for the spiral waves".
i believe the spiral beams get the disruptor proc AND the phaser proc, so basicly, chance to down your enemies shield AND do extra damage to theire hull
i got one last winter and i have to say its a main ship for my main character.
its fast, nimble, probably biggest shields of all cruisers.
and its one of few ships capable of using of all the features of the jemhaddar set.
"victory is life" is very nasty. mark XII jemhaddar set + fleet polaron weapons + some field generatos + omega maneuvers + a2b setup. i got also tyken rift, tho only first grade of, but all together polarons + plasmonic leech + tyken I + aftershock doff works quite good to knock out the cubes long enough.
I would take a look at the Monbosh it compares well to the Galor -- no spiral waves, but it has 4 tac consoles and it is cheaper and has better boff layout.
This ship is more than capable of doing any mission in the game including STF's. I find the performance of it very good.
ANY ship is capable of doing elite stfs.
The Galor is just a decent ship, but of course is far inferior than a thousands out there. As people said, the best thing about the galor are the spiral disruptors, but more than that.. meh. And being a romulan.. well this is a question of taste, but if i am a romulan i dont pilot a Galor..
The Galor is a nice ship (even if the Cardassian Lock Box is lacking somewhat). It's a fairly agile cruiser with a good, all round setup, and when equipped with dual beam banks can be a heavy hitter. There are benefits to that, as there are the spiral wave disruptors; I once had a Fleet Excelsior equipped with them and they did the ship justice.
That said, the Fleet Avenger (for FED) and that other thing (for KDF) fit an equal (if not better) role. I think making the purchase of the Galor would be a bad move with the Avenger and it's KDF counterpart already in operation.
Edit: Just seen you've mentioned this for a Romulan character, and the Romulans don't currently have an Avenger equivalent. Based on that, if you've the Energy Credits then I'd say go for it. If you're going to need to spend a bit before hand, I'd say wait. Cryptic are bound to release a couple more ships within the coming months, and you can guarantee a Romulan ship will be among them (likely before a Klingon one, cause ya'know, Cryptic don't like Klingons that much). :P
The Galor is just a decent ship, but of course is far inferior than a thousands out there. As people said, the best thing about the galor are the spiral disruptors, but more than that.. meh. And being a romulan.. well this is a question of taste, but if i am a romulan i dont pilot a Galor..
The Mongosh is far better than the Galor...
This has been my complaint, actually. If you have a Galor, you'd be better off stripping the spiral waves and putting them on another fleet quality ship.
It is still capable but has been equaled or surpassed in capability.
The Spiral Wave Disruptors long ago were unmatched. Not so today. There's comparable weapons to be found with, IMO, better Hybrid Procs if you so choose.
A ship that was designed from the ground up for Power Creep has since been overtaken by Power Creep since its introduction in 2012.
It's a good ship, don't get me wrong. Still capable. But I would not pay for what it's going for in the Exchange.
If you're Romulan, Warbirds are infinitely better in every possible tactical fashion.
If you're Fed, you have TAC Cruisers that do the job equally as well or better.
If you're KDF... the original home of the Battlecruisers, well, you have bonafide options already.
If a Galor falls into your lap, by all means take it (or sell it for profit). But me, personally, I would not pay for what it goes for now. And I would NOT play the Lockbox game for it by digging up old boxes. You have bonafide options now within the factions. Even newer lockbox / lobi ships do the job better now.
The problem with the Galor is this: It's a Has-Been.
I have a Galor on my fed toon and IMO it's a great ship, I run an aux 2 Bat build and I take cubes down like they are nothing, but it's up to you,I have the fleet Avenger and love it .
i believe the spiral beams get the disruptor proc AND the phaser proc, so basicly, chance to down your enemies shield AND do extra damage to theire hull
The spiral waves are the only 2-proc weapon in the game that has more than 2 [mods] (accx2 dmgx2) and are infinitely scaling (not that that matters without a level cap increase).
It's a great ship, but not really worth >200M (or whatever the current price is). I got mine back in '12 when they were only like 60m.
Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
For me, if the Galor could load cannons , it'd be the perfect ship .
I have two unlocked on two Engineers , and it's shield mod , combined with the healing the Eng class can dish out makes it a very potent survivor in PVE and PVP .
However , due to no cannons , and with it's 3 Tac consoles , it's DPS is ... , somewhat meh , and you'd need other consoles to beef up it's CriT's .
As you've mentioned an interest in it for a Romulan Tac ... -- with the appropriate Rom CriT boosting Boffs , it could become more potent , but again -- "beam potent" and not "cannon potent" .
The Galor is just a decent ship, but of course is far inferior than a thousands out there. As people said, the best thing about the galor are the spiral disruptors, but more than that.. meh. And being a romulan.. well this is a question of taste, but if i am a romulan i dont pilot a Galor..
The Mongosh is far better than the Galor...
Ermmm....no. The Galor is not 'far inferior' to thousands out there, its one of the best cruisers in the game, that happens to be available to any captain regardless of faction. Why people want to load cannons on it i don't know, thats what escorts are for, and they do it better.
The fact is, ALL the lockbox cruisers are good. If you want support/survivability, then the TS battlecruiser is great with its warp core set bonus and flexibility of its boff layout. If you want an agile cruiser ideal for torp + beam setups, then the galor is great too, spiral waves are nice weapons. with a unique visual.
Both of these ships have a 1.3 shield modifier which gives them larger shield HP.
If you want a damage focused cruiser then the Monbosh is good with its 4 tac console slots and a good turn rate for a cruiser as well as 1.2 shield mod making it still tough. The Hirogen Cruiser is also a damn good ship, again more of a support cruiser but very flexible boff stations mean it can be very tac orientated and again a good 1.2 shield mod. Best thing about this ship is mounting the 180 degree turn console if you also own a Hirogen Hunter.
It really all depends on, the idea you have of your character, what kinds of ships you like the visual style of, and what you like to do in game.
One fact is very simple though. Anyone who says the Galor is bad or not worth the money is either bored of using one, has never had the money to buy one, or is simply a moron.
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I recently got back into using the Galor and it rocks my socks off. Using the Elachi heavy crescent wave canon, the proton weapon, an Elachi DBB, and nanite torpedo up front and gravimetric torpedo, counter command disruptor turret, elachi turret and cutting beam in the back. CRF or CSV are awesome with it, TS3 kills undine ships like nobody's business and the beam bank with BO1 packs a decent punch. Have a crit rate of 21.7% with two Romulan tac boffs, all the crit boosting reputation, lockbox and tac consoles and two disruptor damage bonuses from counter command ordinance and two pieces of the Elachi set.
I could probably do all of the above with an Avenger, but the Galor is still an awesome ship in its own right. If the Galor even needed a buff, I'd say make it unique with a 5/3 weapon layout like the Avenger.
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If you own an Fleet Avenger/ FACR / FAHCR it's not really worth it. The three mentioned ships aren't too far behind (i'd even say the Avenger is better than the Galor) to be worth 200M ECs (Or whatever a Galor is worth nowadays).
Pros and Cons...
+ Better shields and good turn rate (Compared to above mentioned Cruisers)
* Less Tactical (don't want to put this to + or -, since it isn't really a downside)
- Prize, weaker Hull, no ability to load DHCs (if you'd want that)
In comparison to Klingon ships i might add, since the Mogh behaves like the Avenger, i'd also say it's "better" than the galor.
EDIT: Forgot to add the Fleet Tor'Kaht which is IMO also comparable to the Galor. Might lack a bit of survivability, but still it's a great ship.
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this is for my ROMULAN TAC
im not asking to have it compared to other ships since i know there are plenty of better ships, i just want to know if it is worth to add to my rather big collection of lobi/lockbox ships
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My bad then If you want to collect it, go on, it's a good ship. But performance-wise there are definitely better for the RR (*cough*scimitar*cough*).
And if you're asking for "if it is worth it" not concerned of performance, there's nobody except for yourself to make the decision
i believe the spiral beams get the disruptor proc AND the phaser proc, so basicly, chance to down your enemies shield AND do extra damage to theire hull
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
i got one last winter and i have to say its a main ship for my main character.
its fast, nimble, probably biggest shields of all cruisers.
and its one of few ships capable of using of all the features of the jemhaddar set.
"victory is life" is very nasty. mark XII jemhaddar set + fleet polaron weapons + some field generatos + omega maneuvers + a2b setup. i got also tyken rift, tho only first grade of, but all together polarons + plasmonic leech + tyken I + aftershock doff works quite good to knock out the cubes long enough.
ANY ship is capable of doing elite stfs.
The Galor is just a decent ship, but of course is far inferior than a thousands out there. As people said, the best thing about the galor are the spiral disruptors, but more than that.. meh. And being a romulan.. well this is a question of taste, but if i am a romulan i dont pilot a Galor..
The Mongosh is far better than the Galor...
That said, the Fleet Avenger (for FED) and that other thing (for KDF) fit an equal (if not better) role. I think making the purchase of the Galor would be a bad move with the Avenger and it's KDF counterpart already in operation.
Edit: Just seen you've mentioned this for a Romulan character, and the Romulans don't currently have an Avenger equivalent. Based on that, if you've the Energy Credits then I'd say go for it. If you're going to need to spend a bit before hand, I'd say wait. Cryptic are bound to release a couple more ships within the coming months, and you can guarantee a Romulan ship will be among them (likely before a Klingon one, cause ya'know, Cryptic don't like Klingons that much). :P
This has been my complaint, actually. If you have a Galor, you'd be better off stripping the spiral waves and putting them on another fleet quality ship.
IMHO, it needs some kind of love.
Back in 2012.
It is still capable but has been equaled or surpassed in capability.
The Spiral Wave Disruptors long ago were unmatched. Not so today. There's comparable weapons to be found with, IMO, better Hybrid Procs if you so choose.
A ship that was designed from the ground up for Power Creep has since been overtaken by Power Creep since its introduction in 2012.
It's a good ship, don't get me wrong. Still capable. But I would not pay for what it's going for in the Exchange.
If you're Romulan, Warbirds are infinitely better in every possible tactical fashion.
If you're Fed, you have TAC Cruisers that do the job equally as well or better.
If you're KDF... the original home of the Battlecruisers, well, you have bonafide options already.
If a Galor falls into your lap, by all means take it (or sell it for profit). But me, personally, I would not pay for what it goes for now. And I would NOT play the Lockbox game for it by digging up old boxes. You have bonafide options now within the factions. Even newer lockbox / lobi ships do the job better now.
The problem with the Galor is this: It's a Has-Been.
The spiral waves are the only 2-proc weapon in the game that has more than 2 [mods] (accx2 dmgx2) and are infinitely scaling (not that that matters without a level cap increase).
It's a great ship, but not really worth >200M (or whatever the current price is). I got mine back in '12 when they were only like 60m.
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I have two unlocked on two Engineers , and it's shield mod , combined with the healing the Eng class can dish out makes it a very potent survivor in PVE and PVP .
However , due to no cannons , and with it's 3 Tac consoles , it's DPS is ... , somewhat meh , and you'd need other consoles to beef up it's CriT's .
As you've mentioned an interest in it for a Romulan Tac ... -- with the appropriate Rom CriT boosting Boffs , it could become more potent , but again -- "beam potent" and not "cannon potent" .
But it is very nimble and really fun to fly .
Ermmm....no. The Galor is not 'far inferior' to thousands out there, its one of the best cruisers in the game, that happens to be available to any captain regardless of faction. Why people want to load cannons on it i don't know, thats what escorts are for, and they do it better.
The fact is, ALL the lockbox cruisers are good. If you want support/survivability, then the TS battlecruiser is great with its warp core set bonus and flexibility of its boff layout. If you want an agile cruiser ideal for torp + beam setups, then the galor is great too, spiral waves are nice weapons. with a unique visual.
Both of these ships have a 1.3 shield modifier which gives them larger shield HP.
If you want a damage focused cruiser then the Monbosh is good with its 4 tac console slots and a good turn rate for a cruiser as well as 1.2 shield mod making it still tough. The Hirogen Cruiser is also a damn good ship, again more of a support cruiser but very flexible boff stations mean it can be very tac orientated and again a good 1.2 shield mod. Best thing about this ship is mounting the 180 degree turn console if you also own a Hirogen Hunter.
It really all depends on, the idea you have of your character, what kinds of ships you like the visual style of, and what you like to do in game.
One fact is very simple though. Anyone who says the Galor is bad or not worth the money is either bored of using one, has never had the money to buy one, or is simply a moron.
I could probably do all of the above with an Avenger, but the Galor is still an awesome ship in its own right. If the Galor even needed a buff, I'd say make it unique with a 5/3 weapon layout like the Avenger.