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Undine Space Set, 3rd power not working correctly

labs00labs00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
The third power of the set " Bio-Molecular Fluidic Counter Blast" is suppose to destroy the fluidic rift puddles, testing it on both the stfs and the undine space battle, it does not close them at all.
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  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    labs00 wrote: »
    The third power of the set " Bio-Molecular Fluidic Counter Blast" is suppose to destroy the fluidic rift puddles, testing it on both the stfs and the undine space battle, it does not close them at all.

    I was just coming here to post this exact thing. It for sure doesn't pop the puddles, and if the puddle popper doesn't pop the puddles then what's the practical point of having the puddle popper. It's snot right, it's snot wrong. :eek:

    It is surely not worth giving up my elite fleet warp core.

    And seriously, why weren't these add the the drozana station testing console so I could have found this out BEFORE dropping 750 marks and 32k Dil. If this isn't fixed SOON, I'd like my marks an dil back.

    Please let us TEST the gear before it goes live.
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  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Any word on this? Can a dev pop in here and please say if this gonna be fixed soon? That was a LOT of Marks and Dill that I feel I wasted...:mad:
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  • toshiro157toshiro157 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I am having the same problem with it. Would be nice to hear a response about it, maybe what we think are puddles aren't puddles?

    Also yes having been able to test these prior to release would have been nice, if they wanted us to do the rep on tribble to fully test it, they could have made all the items auto reward on each tier (I know I was willing to grind the marks to get t5, but not to get the items on a test server)
  • ihiriihiri Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Came to actaully make a note of the same problem. I'm not even sure if the power actuall even damages anything when used. perhap the power is just being used improperly. If this is the case, please explain as to how the power is to be used.

    Otherwise I feel that another Captain is correct and this is simply another "tool-tip power" that does not actually do anything. And considering that the set is heavily outclassed by the other Reputation sets, without out the powers actually working, it is virtually useless and not even worth getting. Not even for the looks.
  • labs00labs00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    the damage aspect of the power does work ( have to be within 3kms ), i have tested in pvp seen player ship take a hit and go down a bit, but not much. its more like having an extra torp with radiation damage. just the whole rift aspect of it isn't working.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    I knew a bug was going to pop up with this set. They never allowed easy testing in Tribble, and this is the result. To the devs, next time don't make people grind for the set in order to test it in Tribble.
  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    I knew a bug was going to pop up with this set. They never allowed easy testing in Tribble, and this is the result. To the devs, next time don't make people grind for the set in order to test it in Tribble.

    ^^^This...

    Can a Dev at least confirm they know about this?
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  • blindsaviour666blindsaviour666 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The ability works for me but I have to target an enemy and than all of the bubbles that are in a 3 km radius around the enemy pop instantly...

    Definitely bugged tho since when you don't need a target to activate it and when you do it that way it doesn't pop any bubbles.
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  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The ability works for me but I have to target an enemy and than all of the bubbles that are in a 3 km radius around the enemy pop instantly...

    Definitely bugged tho since when you don't need a target to activate it and when you do it that way it doesn't pop any bubbles.

    So wait, not only do you have to target an Enemy, it only pops the space snot in 3 km around the enemy not you? That kind of make the power less than useless. If it works that way, does it also pop puddles that a friendly put on that enemy (we now have lockbox ships that can make the puddles)

    Thanks for the clairification.

    Devs please fix/change this. Keep the targetable part, but also let us fire it off to POP THE PUDDLES AROUND YOU, which is the reason MOST people want the power.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So wait, not only do you have to target an Enemy, it only pops the space snot in 3 km around the enemy not you? That kind of make the power less than useless. If it works that way, does it also pop puddles that a friendly put on that enemy (we now have lockbox ships that can make the puddles)

    Thanks for the clairification.

    Devs please fix/change this. Keep the targetable part, but also let us fire it off to POP THE PUDDLES AROUND YOU, which is the reason MOST people want the power.

    Honestly, most of these sort of powers are useless all the time. This is not an isolated case lol. I wish like to see other abilities from other sets / ships to be no so stupidily useless. Its the way cryptic do things, thats all. They go for the easy weays without thinking on anything. 3km?? that is a huge joke.

    Besides, until cryptic fixes the hyper lag of the undine battlezone, i dont think to many people is going to rush into the T5 undine reputation, it will be stupid. I reached T2 thanks to the surface tension mission, and thats it. I dont want to make stupid stfs and i dont want to go to the undine battlezone until that terrible lag is fixed. So, who cares about the set lol.
  • blindsaviour666blindsaviour666 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So wait, not only do you have to target an Enemy, it only pops the space snot in 3 km around the enemy not you? That kind of make the power less than useless. If it works that way, does it also pop puddles that a friendly put on that enemy (we now have lockbox ships that can make the puddles)

    Thanks for the clairification.

    Devs please fix/change this. Keep the targetable part, but also let us fire it off to POP THE PUDDLES AROUND YOU, which is the reason MOST people want the power.


    It worked that way when I tested it in a 1v1 PvP, the enemy was about 2 km away when he used the fluidic rift console on me, when I used the ability on him the bubbles that were out popped but the "eye" kept on making more so essentially you have to wait until it spews out all of the bubbles to use it effectively.

    I didn't think of testing to see if my bubbles would pop as well...
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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited May 2014
    We are aware of the reported issue(s) with this ability, and have already been investigating fixes. One potential fix has already been checked in and we're awaiting QA review on it.
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  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    We are aware of the reported issue(s) with this ability, and have already been investigating fixes. One potential fix has already been checked in and we're awaiting QA review on it.

    Thank you! :)
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    We are aware of the reported issue(s) with this ability, and have already been investigating fixes. One potential fix has already been checked in and we're awaiting QA review on it.

    Any chance you could put the set in the Tribble test console? I'd like to try it before I throw away dilithium and marks on it.
  • thechocobohunterthechocobohunter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I wanna apologize now if my post is all over the place and has horrible punctuation not to mention long as heck. I blame the ADHD, ptsd, and the new york public school system. lol.

    Alright, its august and 9.5 is out and there still issues I see with 8472's abilities and the counter command set abilities. but first the good. bubbles have def gotten better, they're a pain, but a reasonable pain that makes the game challenging. So mozel tov to you guys for fixing that. (but... i have a very agile fleet escort, so my opinion may be biased).

    Now the bad, especially in "undine" (never liked the name) space battle zone, which i do enjoy playing. "puddles, rifts, bubbles, schmubbles"... Are "puddles" the bubbles that blob around in space making us slow as molasses? Or are they the rifts that pull you into them? Because if they're the rifts, there hasn't been jack TRIBBLE changes YET. Rifts are gateways, puddles aren't bubbles, Ive seen bubbles in puddles irl. I digress... Especially in the battle zone i see more rifts than you can shake a floppy stick at. My ship is fast and i can only pull away from a rift AFTER using evasive maneuvers (which is cool and dandy). but Now i get this counter blast gizmo power and use it like freakin -1km away from a rift (basically inside the rift) and.... nothing. So you don't want us to easily destroy them? i get that, its kewl. so if we cant easily destroy them using a power we have worked hard to earn, at least limit the number of them. now if we could destroy them with a single blast that's fine too cause theres still a freakin ton of them to begin with. I cant tell you how many times I'm put puttin along minding my own beeswax, when a gang of fluidic ruffians comes callin out for my blood cause im all "weak and will perish" and plop! 5 to 6 rifts open up on top of each other and it just looks like im in a tholian web. at full speed (not full imp) im at a stand still. just feels like damn freakin 8472 likes to cheese us with abilities since all of a sudden peeps from the milky way can killem soooo freakin easily. there more 8472 ships than fire ants on my patio. I digress again... i really don't care to pop the bubbles but i wanna at least destroy a rift or two when im IN one. you don't have to worry bout everyone closing rifts all over the place cause they're plenty of them to go around! Now Im no friggin programmer or coder so Im not gonna expect you people to pull a Scotty to make lil ol me happy, i know it aint easy to just change the color of your TRIBBLE at a whim. I tried C++ and it wasn't for me, so kudos to all the hard work you guys do. Damn, there i go digressing yet again... But if the description of the equip says "destroys Fluidic rift space puddles" then make it do so Mr. Scott! :D Im sure your gonna fix this any way so take this post as entertainment if you want.

    on a side note the Borg, Voth and 8472 are really easy to kill even in elite stfs. i know its a game but damn! how many voth, borg and 8472 have to die for our amusement!? i can see a public service announcement with wings of an angel playin in the background and ground mobs being vaporized over and over and ships exploding like crazy! lol. Id still be happy as a clam if little changed. STO replaced Starfleet Command I, II and III for me and some. Dude! I can have my own bridge crew, walk around my ship and customize it too?! Frak yeah!

    my 6 yr old likes to watch me play on the big screen and he asks me "papa! what happened to all those people on the ships you blew up?!" I reply "escape pods" to which he answers "I don't see escape pods" my response "cloaked for their protection" lol

    As you can tell from the tone of this post, i don't take this TRIBBLE too seriously. i really have fun with STO. As a kid I used to dream about doing the things i can do now with this under appreciated game. Yeah the game aint perfect, but if the world was perfect we wouldn't have hot dogs... good job on the R&D revamp too! Now i actually conduct R&D. I don't play Undine (shudder) assault anymore cause I kept falling asleep fighting the PKer.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The ability works for me but I have to target an enemy and than all of the bubbles that are in a 3 km radius around the enemy pop instantly...

    Definitely bugged tho since when you don't need a target to activate it and when you do it that way it doesn't pop any bubbles.

    Which makes it... working as intended! The blast radius is indiscriminate (around your ship). But the yellow goo gets destroyed around your target.
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