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Now that the Fed-KDF war is over, it's time to be a Real Faction
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The primary reason that the Romulan Republic was created so tied into the the Faction choice we made at low level, was to make sure that we didn't have issues finding groups for PvE/PvP by allowing us to group with our allied faction. But now that the war is over, and PvP is tied into totally open team combos, its time to end the grouping restrictions entirely and start building out the rest of the Romulan faction over the next several seasons. The Romulan Republic should be a complete faction before any other new factions are added.
What a complete faction means to me:
Capitol City - Academy, Senate, etc.
Orbital Fleetyards
Romulan Fleets with Romulan Starbases and fleet Holdings (the Embassy could be called Fleet HQ)
Romulan Computer Voice!
Elite Plasma Weapons from Fleet
Task Force Omega Romulan Set
More Romulan specific BOFF/DOFF rewards
Additional Republic Member races, at least Suliban should be one
And I'm sure other things that I am forgetting.
What a complete faction means to me:
Capitol City - Academy, Senate, etc.
Orbital Fleetyards
Romulan Fleets with Romulan Starbases and fleet Holdings (the Embassy could be called Fleet HQ)
Romulan Computer Voice!
Elite Plasma Weapons from Fleet
Task Force Omega Romulan Set
More Romulan specific BOFF/DOFF rewards
Additional Republic Member races, at least Suliban should be one
And I'm sure other things that I am forgetting.
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The end to Fed-KDF War doesn't change anything about the past...and an end to open hostilities does not mean that everybody's all huggaboo happy.
Gotta agree with this.
I wish that the New Romulus zone would lead into a Romulan city along the lines of Bajor.
Just look at this for inspiration:
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120403031624/memoryalpha/en/images/e/e4/Romulus_administrative_district%2C_2368.jpg
Also, Romulan fleets are a must, it's annoying that the Romulans are divided into Fed and KDF here.
Some romulans players really have the tendency to whine on a very high level...
So, Cryptic is basicly admitting they can't run two player factions and are finally giving up the KDF storyline, and you see this as hope for a full third faction?
The need for that is in our desire. We want our starbases to look Romulan, not Fed or Klingon. We want to explore our Capitol City. We want orbital defenses in our system. We want our own Honor Guard attire. We want fleet plasma weapons, because that's Romulan. We want the same things the other factions have. There's nothing outrageous or presumptuous in these desires.
And your response to this is to whine because we can get both Romulan stuff and allied stuff?
I removed starbase, because that's cryptic idea and that's why we are allied and all that. It's less a problem IMO.
Romulan starbase...you will be over a year behind.....Get it for free !! no way
plasma weapons get too many bonuses now to get Elite versions
you can buy a omega set now in the rep system
If your a kdf romulan you get more doff rewards than you deserve if your Fed you live in a tent on welfare
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
^^ This...yes this!
and my opinion, leave romulans the way they are and make a new faction and it should be a Cardassian faction
Problem with existing set visuals is that they are distincitly Klingon or Distinctly fed, or neutral, but nothing that is distinctily Romulans.
Also, the Fed set is phaser based while the KDF is disruptor based, lacking a Plasma based romulan ground set.
Free? I've got over 4 million fleet credits already on my Romulan from her contributions to our fleet holdings. Free? Dude. *shakes head* Think.
- Well, we have the first one already: just need to expand to more "buildings".
- Fleet yards in orbit make sense, as we are "rebuilding" our fleet.
- As long as the computer is speaking Rihan.
Additional races is a tricky thing being that we, as a whole, have endain'efvielh.
Romulan Institute
D'Galan - Engineer
You actually have over 5 million FC last I looked :P
Romulan Institute
D'Galan - Engineer
As for the Romulans being a 3rd faction all to themselves... Yes, it would be nice to have a 3rd faction in the game, however, I do not believe the player base can actually support 3 factions. Most casual players will likely choose the Federation because it is the most well known faction since all Star Trek TV series and movies focuses on the Federation. I think what will happen is the percentage of players in the KDF faction would drop because not everyone wants to play as the Federation. With the addition of a full fledged Romulan faction those player now have an alternative to the KDF.
The percentage of people playing as the Fed will more or less remain stable while the percentage of people playing the KDF will likely fall a bit since numerically, there are fewer people playing KDF so even a small drop in the population (numerically speaking) can mean a large percentage drop.
ok cool i got 12 million in mine
So what are you asking for ...A abilty to switch from your current ( Fed ) or ( klingon )starbase to a romulan one ?
And take what the elite phasers you have already bought with you as well what about elite disruptors ? and all of the other elite gear ? plus now i can buy romulan specific gear too ?
Our Fed starbase is Tier 5 we have everything Fed we want....It would be great to switch it to a T-5 romulan base and add all of the cool Rommie stuff to what we already have huh ?
you would have to start from scratch and be over a year behind and all of the new unreleased content will be enjoyed by others while you struggle up from the bottom
What about members of your fleet who arnt romulan ? and have made contribututions to you current base ? just kick them out ?
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I don't think we're on the same page here. This is what I'm talking about (primarily), when I speak of Romulan fleet holdings:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=904841
And a few other assumptions I would like to correct:
1. Full Faction status does not necessarily mean alliances are no longer possible. Sovereign polities are free to make alliances with other sovereign polities.
2. Full faction status with our own *Romulan* fleets does not necessarily mean that Romulan/Reman toons will have to leave the allied fleets they are in and join a Romulan fleet, nor does it necessarily mean that allied personnel who are members of those fleets will have to leave and go back to a fleet from their own faction.
3. My toon, a Romulan, founded a fleet, which is primarily made up of Romulan and Reman members. It is a Romulan fleet already, de facto (and very nearly de jure as well; it is certainly a Romulan fleet de jure in terms of our in-character views). The fact of Orions and Caitians and Klingons and Gorn making up a smaller percentage of the fleet as well has no bearing on the allegiance of the fleet. We have worked very hard for what we have, and we've done quite well for a fleet that is still less than a year old. Mister Jellico, if your Starfleet butt is hurt over the idea that we might simply be able to slap a new coat of paint on our starbase and replace the Klingon logos with Romulan logos, and get Romulan decorative motifs inside the starbase (where now we have no Klingon decorative motifs apart from those which were inherent to the starbase from the beginning and a few small [and thus mostly inconsequential] Klingon emblems which came with this or that other special project [which special project may be considered consistent with Klingon culture but which cannot be considered specific or particular to Klingon culture]), then I suggest to you that you should unbunch your knickers and you might feel less discomfort in your derriere.
4. And certainly fleet members would keep whatever they had already purchased. Do you think that should not be the case? Perhaps we should demand that your purchases be removed. I mean, I still have Mk X KHG items, for example, even though it's no longer possible to get them from Omega Reputation, and other things have taken their place. Should I now be disallowed from purchasing the new items in Omega Rep simply because I have old items from Omega Rep? Such a policy would be unfair, is illogical, and frankly doesn't even make sense.
No welfare
no combining Elite gear from the kdf with new elite gear from a new romulan faction starbase
If that is the case our fed fleet will go klingon for a week and get elite klingon gear........plasmonic leachs for instance elite disruptors..Then the week after we switch to Rommies and pick up there goodies
you will start from scratch....Or not at all..........You cant combine the Elite gears which is just what most would do
Perhaps you would not do this but everyone else would
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
are you deliberately missing what shes saying or just getting lost in the huge mass of what shes saying? Proto is talking about cosmetic unlocks to existing Fed/KDF Bases founded and staffed by romulan characters.
Also for those whining about STF queues they're already becoming factionless, so that argument is dead
I also dont think too many people playing Romulans would give two ****s about loosing fed/kdf specific gear if it meant we could get our own Romulan specific ones. Also, consdiering the number of people screaming for Rom fleets, even if we did have to build them from scratch I dont think itd take too bloody long for people to get 5 or so good sized ones up to par. Right now I see a lot of complaints in my Fed/KDF alliance about no way to dump fleet marks anymore because we're running out of projects to do and everyone has hundreds or more stocked up waiting.
No need to exclude Starfleet or KDF members either, if they're comfortable being in a primarily Romulan-themed fleet and a Romulan Starbase then good for them.
KDF taught us well.
I don't want TRIBBLE branded with my forced allies logo, stuck in my forced allies gear, and I'm frankly pretty tired of seeing my allies crew on my ships. If I wanted to play as Fed/KDF, I wouldn't have made a Romulan.
I think jellico's point is that it is already integrated to a level that would be highly problematic to untangle, without being unfair in some way, and that asking for retention of alliance benefits breaks the point of having a fully separate faction. I am am for cosmetic changes in say a mostly Romulan populated starbase, where you could have a conversion based on member votes and leader approval.
Cryptic could barely manage to keep the KDF and Federation going as different factions hence they amount of complaints for more content from Klingon players while the Federation got lots.
The simple fact is this game should never have had different factions in the first place and should have been combined. At best you would be able to select where you start from and get individual stories but in the end every character ends up part of a grand alliance.
Essentially it ends up being like the Federation with multiple races except you would be part of a grand alliance with multiple technologies cross-sharing.
Of course, doing that would make the faction restrictions redundant to the point that Feds could fly Klingon ships and vice versa much like the Romulans can.
Cryptic will never do that because it severely hurts their money making potential. Even if they are so artistically bankrupt they have put the entire STO story into a position where it should be happening.
We KDF learned well from the Fed whine masters.
R.I.P
Feds whine because they want cloaks and raiders; KDF whine because Feds whine for what they have, then whine for every single thing the Federation has without a single shred of irony. Both whine for Romulan nerfs, despite the fact both of them can roll Romulans and ally with their faction. Then, when their own forums are full of whine, they let it spill over into the Romulan forum.
It's the ciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiircle of whiiiiiiiiiiiiine
And it moves us allllllllllllll
Romulan STF gear would be nice, but I don't see it happening due to the Plasma Weapon Specialist trait. A Romulan plasma battle rifle in the hands of a Romulan or Reman with this trait would outshine the Fed and KDF versions by 10%.
What I want for the Republic is the ability to team with any other Romulan, no matter who they are allied with. Tearing down the teaming divide is far more important than having starbases, although I understand that this would be a complicated thing in terms of design (no Fed Roms being invited to KDF bases to plunder their elite disruptors, ect).
I would also like Romulan STF gear, but the plasma weapon specialist trait would make it outperform the Fed and KDF versions in the hands of a Romulan or Reman.
I would never play the game you are describing.
That said, nigh-unrestricted cross-faction teaming should come as soon as possible.
Then why are you playing STO ?
We are literally able to fly ships, use equipment and crew from across space, time and race.
We are able to gain reputation with those factions and the story Cryptic have conjured has just ended with all the major powers trying to combine their power into an alliance.
The only reason the different factions existed was to promote the Red vs Blue PVP. As has been proven, that was not required now that the stupid PVP system has been changed. Cryptic cannot manage 2 factions let alone 3 so asking for more is stupid.
Any future faction is doomed to end up like the Romulans with them joining the Red or Blue.
Except, Red and Blue only exist while leveling up so...
Better to have one grand alliance that combines all the factions into a single side which would justify the massive amount of cross-faction technological sharing.
Instead of missions for each faction, it just needs one mission with variations. This is exactly what Cryptic have been doing for years so really... I expect you to stop playing STO or are you just hilariously hypocritical.
I know some people disagree with this, but I would say it's right. To make it more interesting, they can further subdivide it based on faction training:
Fed: Due to being expert on exotic attacks and cruisers, Fed gets bonus to exotic attacks and tanking
KDF: Due to being warrior focus, KDF get bonus to tactical, healing, and gravimatric attacks
Rom: In addition to their chosen faction bonus, Rom get additional stealth and alpha strike bonus. Additional Ground health due to being survivors.
The war has ended but I see absolutely no reason to mash together everything into one grand faction and allow feds to fly Klingon ships or Romulan ships under the starfleet banner.
I can accept the alliance but not the rolling of my fandom into the starfleet toy box. It would be unnatural and make the game pointless in any choices made.
I look forward to the future missions ingame as co-op and do wish they would co-op many of the endgame missions for joint play, plus I still wish they would flesh out the lower level missions to better give reason to why the war started and eventual ends at endgame.
R.I.P
Your not gonna break into an Elton John song are you?
R.I.P