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Priority One Podcast Episode 172 | CaptainGeko Strikes Back
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Greetings, Captains -- and Feliz Cinco de Mayo! You're listening to Episode 172 of Priority One Podcast, the premier Star Trek Online podcast! This episode was recorded on Thursday, May 1st, 2014 and published on Monday, Cinco de Mayo, 2014 at PriorityOnePodcast.com!
Brace yourselves, Captains! This episode is going to be a doozey! Clocking in a just over 2-hours, this episode is full of Star Trek and Star Trek Online goodness! For starters, this week we Trek Out an on-site interview with Star Trek Alums, Anthony Montgomery (Helmsman Travis Mayweather - Star Trek: Enterprise) and Robert Picardo (The Doctor - Star Trek: Voyager) from the Creation Entertainment Star Trek NJ Convention!
In STONews, we have a surprise guest revisiting the show to help correct a few errors in last week's episode 171 of Priority One Podcast. If you can appreciate Elijah being p0wnd, then this is not a STONews you're going to want to miss.
Later, in our Community Spotlight segment, we interview some of the cast and crew of Star Trek: Equinox -- an independent film project telling the ongoing story of Captain Ransom of Star Trek: Voyager. And of course as always, well open hailing frequencies and see whats incoming from you our listeners.
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Brace yourselves, Captains! This episode is going to be a doozey! Clocking in a just over 2-hours, this episode is full of Star Trek and Star Trek Online goodness! For starters, this week we Trek Out an on-site interview with Star Trek Alums, Anthony Montgomery (Helmsman Travis Mayweather - Star Trek: Enterprise) and Robert Picardo (The Doctor - Star Trek: Voyager) from the Creation Entertainment Star Trek NJ Convention!
In STONews, we have a surprise guest revisiting the show to help correct a few errors in last week's episode 171 of Priority One Podcast. If you can appreciate Elijah being p0wnd, then this is not a STONews you're going to want to miss.
Later, in our Community Spotlight segment, we interview some of the cast and crew of Star Trek: Equinox -- an independent film project telling the ongoing story of Captain Ransom of Star Trek: Voyager. And of course as always, well open hailing frequencies and see whats incoming from you our listeners.
Topics Discussed
- Season 9 Dev Blog #18 - Undine Lock Box and Lobi Store Ships (Specs)
- Season 9 Dev Blog #19 - The Undine Lock Box (Story)
- What do you think about the reports from The Wrap article? Do you think that JJ Trek could be a lot better with several different avenues for emersion? Could Star Wars actually turn out MUCH better than his reimagined Trek just because he doesnt have to worry about jumping through licensing hoops?
- What is your opinion of Season 9 content? What do you think of the featured episode? What about the new PvE content?
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You are the only people carrying the ip, please take care of it
The popularity of anti-proton weapons is only partly due to it's crit ability, another reason I'd point to is availability, Borg, 8472, and Voth Rep system offer ship anti-proton and all reps except Romulan reward anti-proton ground weapons. While nice, it's not the energy of my taste.
The new content is Okay, the battle zone is fun enough to play a few times and I played all the new ques once which seemed interesting. That being said I'm burnt out on ques, give me the old Borg stfs and terridome where you made the team yourself with friends and allies, flew to the location and spent a good 2 hours in a mission that tested your stills and ability to corporate with teammates. 30 minute or less ques are far to abundant and now so spread out that it's dieing.
Now this is more against the hosts than Geko. Anytime they criticize they apologize and hedge their words to be overly diplomatic. Now I'm not expecting them to go full on forum rage style upon him at all that would be silly. But I do expect them to be critical, and I think Geko does as well, and they do not come across like that at all.
I just want to hear more cold hard truth. I want to hear how the hosts feel about the things they are giving the feedback to Geko about because how they feel is in itself an important part of the feedback.
For reference I find TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit, my primary source for a critical look at a game I'm interested in.
I might disagree with Geko, I might not like the content of what he has to say but I do like his cold honest truth. A perfect example is his response awhile ago to the immersion breaking aspect of lockbox ships. His response was he just got over it but you could hear that tinge of frustration about it. It came across as something in an ideal world he wouldn't have in the game but it is what it is so he simply got over it.
*edit addon 1: The extra info about the item budgeting was insightful.
They need to be very very very gracious or they won't be able to get any interviews.
It's also free advertising for Cryptic/PWE. All press is good press.
On topic: I feel like Geko is trying to blame the community for Cryptic's bad design decisions. In this case, these decisions led the community to believe the lockboxes are "hyper focused" on combating a particular enemy. Clearly there's a perceived consensuses because Geko felt the need to do another interview in an attempt to correct the record, but I'm getting a bit of a Baghdad Bob vibe.
EDIT - Whether or not the lockboxes are hyper focused isn't the point; the point is that the community believes they are based on their experiences. That's a problem.
ever since cryptic made an example out of stoked. everyone has been dainty to not upset the rajeem. they made it clear they didn't want anyone pushing the limits or saying anything bad about the game. thus, all the podcasts are the same now. you've listened to one, you've listened to them all. they are like robots all asking the same questions, and all are identical in their behavior.
that being said. i am someone they will never make happy about alien (enemy faction) ships in star fleet. that being said, i would be even more mad if they wasted recources trying to make up a lame story to explain it. (as for me there is no way to explain it).
i am so sick of hearing AL on these things.. he seems to think his vision and his likes of trek are the only ones. he thinks this game is his own private wet dream. thus why i said in another thread, we could call the game "Star Trek: The AL Riviera Experience"
i really wish the ep would grow a spine and slap al down a peg or two.
A huge chunk of Cryptic's operating income comes from selling Keys. Those Keys exclusively open Lockboxes full of alien ships and equipment. The whole reason people open those Lockboxes is to get those alien ships and equipment. So while I can fully understand some fanboy purist being overly bytchy about alien ships in the game I can also understand that the economics do not prove those fanboys to be the majority of players.
The sooner the purist come to realize that they are the minority of players in the game rather then the majority the happier they will be.
Citation needed.
though , i feel that the Backpedal by Elijah was really not warranted , and makes the podcast less than objective. its walks like a duck quacks like a duck it is a duck . instead of being told its a goose and believing the duck is now a goose .
i agree that if there is some real thought into lock box ships and gear having a back story of why there avail in the first place would go along way to better fit in the game to those that come to the game for star trek immersion .
i must disagree with AL's opinion of Species 8472 , they are a GENOCIDAL Species , the weak shall parish is not a battle cry this is there belief system in which they destroyed every other form of life in there own space . if thats not evil i dont know what is .
i enjoyed all the interviews this week , GG
Can you elaborate a bit? Was it a particular interview on stoked? I missed this.
I totally agree and that is why I listen, to hear what other people think, and maybe I can see and consider a new viewpoint I had not considered. I can read and listen to the corporate RAH! RAH! line anywhere.
It's not easy standing up for beliefs and opinions contrary to those who have a real or perceived influence in your life and career. Honestly reassessing and coming to a different conclusion is an honorable thing, but, allowing others to assert power over YOUR truth of things, will only lead to the point where you cease to be the voice, and become the echo.
Which direction was taken here, only one person truly knows.
Folks, I think we're missing a golden news nugget here... (See the podcast info above)
I recently acquired the Mirror Universe Science Vessel Refit (Rhode Island-class) and LOVE the ship! She's a beauty. I'm reminded, too, that "Equinox"was one of the very few VOY episodes I actually liked.
Enter: STAR TREK EQUINOX
There is a Kickstarter endeavor to fund a trailer. As of 9:44pm PT May 6th, there are 2-1/2 days left to support this effort:
http://startrekequinox.com
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/59144702/equinox-action-figures-and-commerative-t-shirt
Support STO. But consider supporting this project, too.
(Yes, I just pledged $$ support to the project. Please consider helping them to reach their Kickstarter goal, too.)
With the Undine Ships, so we didn't get a good explanation, from now on we will. It's all good. But I think people are more bothered about is that we are flying Undine ships which is many Trek fans would regard as exotic and not something Starfleet or the KDF would actively use as mainstay warships, instead they would be off being studied or used in infiltration operations (which is what Sisko did in his Jem Hadar Attack Ship). I mean as many have pointed out by now, just how long until we end up flying Borg ships?
So goes back to square one is that they are just selling exotic alien ships for profit to run STO, which is perfectly fine. But to me personally, it bothers me more that we will never see the remaining canonical ships because they are viewed as unprofitable. Which to me is disappointing since it goes against the promise Zinc said at the start, that eventually all ships find their way into STO. So I think Geko is underestimating their potential sales value. Especially if you add uniqueness that would make them attractive to fly. If not playable, then why not add NPC models? Wolf 359 (and other Starfleet wrecks, like in Surface Tension) would look a whole lot better with proper ship models.
With the other items in the Lockbox, I enjoy the new traits. But I really dislike the new Kit powers. One is used by griefers in the Hubs, due to the loud shout it does, and I personally dislike the Active Immunity ability since it comes back on the entire group. Where it not only snares, but gives us a unremoveable DoT. Outside of this, I found almost all the new kit abilities to be rather underperforming compared to old kit powers. Though there is an exception with the Tactical melee syphon ability, which is great for meleers.
All in all, I think with this lockbox isn't much different than other lockboxes. Given their poor payouts, I stopped buying them a long time ago. Let someone buy the items and put it up for sale on the Exchange.
Now one last bit regarding this interview. At the end, when Geko talks about the Voth, I really did not take kind to his comments over Voth Doctrine. I personally do not view Voth Doctrine as religious, instead I see it closer to TRIBBLE and Communist propaganda of the early 20th Century, along the lines of "we are the master race, everyone else is inferior".
Also with the Undine "Weak Must Perish", I don't necessarily see that as a War Cry, like above, its sort of like a propaganda line that soldiers are drilled into them, so that anyone else is inferior and give them motivation to kill. But the Undine Faction Janeway encountered, did reveal that they do have their human side, but their xenophobia does make it a large hurdle to overcome.
Cryptic needed to fire off a Golden Bullet (surefire sale) to get out of the mediocrity (in income) that has plagued them this year (100$ Dyson ships , Hirogen Lockbox -- all mediocre-to-bad $$$ performers) .
So they went Undine .
And they packed the Lockbox full of a LOT of stuff ... -- some of it of questionable performance (800 Lobi for an armor that has "+66 against all energy damage" -- but is pretty ...) .
Geko went and did the "Podcast round" .
And he came back to P1 because "while he want's to hear criticism (no he doesn't), he also want's to tell you the truth" .
Now that is not quite what I would consider a PR disaster , however from a PR POV , this is how I see things :
* Terilynn's Massively column -- gone .
* Branflakes & his social networking skills -- gone .
* The PR "weight" that podcast interviews offer -- gone UP .
So , when Gecko comes back to P1 to tell us how wrong we really are ... , to me it means that they are deep in PR doo-doo , and this lockbox REALLY needs to sell (or it's that "call from China" time again) .
And one last Geko oriented thing :
The one thing that I actually do believe him (sort of) is that he's proud of the new Kit system .
A couple of small problems there :
A new and complicated system -- one that can become a major head ache to pre-plan for (find the powers to want , try to find the kit frame that will hold them , get disappointed that there is no kit frame that will hold the exact powers that you specifically want , compromise) .
So we got a new complicated system aaaaaand ... -- no tutorial .
Ppl asking in zone chat/fleet chat/forum where to buy stuff , where is x,y,z, -- and we get nothing from Cryptic but a single Dev blog .
So once again , one more huge systems update that has to rely mostly on "tribal knowledge" to figure out .
Would it cost Cryptic THAT MUCH to make a tutorial video or a series of blogs documenting preferred options along with locations of items to purchase ?
Would all the work that went into this new system have been more recognized and appreciated by the players ... if they knew what the hell was going on ?
Not to mention that Fleet Kit's & Modules are very-very few in number ( ridiculously so) -- thus you can't make a Mk XII Kit with full Mk XII Modules from there so you have to "chase" the other Modules you want and "hope for the best" (or compromise) .
It's a "gotta catch'em all" game , and it's in your STO right now ... -- complete with "old kit powers" that you want that are nowhere to be seen & many Mk XII kit modules that are also nowhere to be seen (kit modules do not have their own search category in the Exchange) -- while at the same time some of the powers are so ridiculously OP that they send Ground PVP balance right out the window .
So yeah ... , good job Al ... -- I can see that just like the Rep system (powercreep) , the Kit system was just as well thought out ... , and it too will totally not need more money spent on for a revamp ... , just like the Rep system didn't . :rolleyes:
And as for the P1 crew ... -- some of the ^^^ above could have been asked about ... , as it's not exactly a secret .
(unless it is ...
I think you mean Red Shirt Army .
But you're right .
QFT .
If someone wants to drop $50.00 on Keys every 3-4 months - which is about how often Cryptic releases new Lockboxes - that is functionally no different then dropping $15.00 a month on a Subscription. They are simply spending it all at one time. That does not make them a whale.
I can point you to posters on this forum who are on government disability programs and make less then $800 a month and who have LTS memberships and buy new items regularly. These people are not "whales." They are simply players willing to spend a few dollars each month for a game they enjoy playing - and they are also willing to save up for 2 or 3 months to get what they want. The game is full of thousands of people like that: who believe if they spend $10.00 -$20.00 a month on a game it is not earth shattering.
People need to stop spreading all their delusions on the forum. The game is not being supported by 500 "rich people" spending thousands a year. It is being supported by tens-of-thousands of average income folks willing to spend reasonable amounts of money. And, yes, that does not mean there are not some fools dropping hundreds, but they are equally offset by people who will not spend $10.00 a year.
I have a question for you, what "call from China?"
I am trying to find it again. It was their second "hiatus" I think, after one of the hosts said how many players their podcast brought in compared to other advertisements.
The post relating to it was several forum upgrades ago, so logged as an archived user now..
Conspiracies are fun.
Red Shirt Army got what was coming to them. The only thing that surprised me was that Cryptic tolerated their biased, unobjective and destructive hatefest for as long as they did.
Red Shirt Army is to journalism as Budweiser is to beer. Just because they say it's beer doesn't mean it's beer. Similarly, just because they say it's a podcast about STO doesn't mean it's a podcast about STO.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=4229682
This is what I was thinking of. But I think I have just confused this one of STOked's rage quits with what was being referred to in this thread.
Though I do think it was a disproportionate response on the part of an STO podcast.
On a recent interview on STOked , Gecko talked a bit about the need for constant content release , and it's effects on incoming revenue .
And that thought thread ended with the words "a call from China" .
But would a "call from China" be any worse than a "call from Atari" if they retained STO?
It may just be a matter of physical location that they were talking about. One being an Asian nation, the other being from beyond the grave at this stage
Nice job quoting half a sentence there .
I suppose you're buying his "I came back to P1 because stuff you said made me feel bad" spiel ?
What you see as "biased, unobjective and destructive hatefest" -- I see as independent non-state/corporate sponsored broadcasting .
I didn't always agree with RSA .
I know sometimes they got their facts wrong .
But I respected them for sticking it out and doing their own thing .
If you can only get interviews by "playing nice" with the powers that be then the problem is not with the interviewer .
In terms of IDIC , they made the fanbase richer , and made the avoidance of them by Cryptic look all that much poorer in comparison .
No, I was pointing out that saying "a call from China" is an indication of conspiracy, or at least an emotion-based rationality. As pointed out above, what separates "a call from China" from "a call from Atari"? The implication of 'the fear of the unknown' is disappointing.
I see it as little more than emotion-based whining from a bunch of immature, entitled people. The only difference between some of them and people on the STO forums is they have microphones, podcast software, and the technical skill needed to deploy their podcasts.
As far as journalism goes, there was little of that. And an unobjective viewpoint in my opinion is needed. Otherwise you aren't broadcasting journalism, you're broadcasting propaganda. In this case, anti-Cryptic (or anti-STO) propaganda is just as unhelpful as pro-Cryptic (or pro-STO) propaganda.
There needs to be objectivity. Some podcasts can do this. Some can not. RSA is one of those who chose not to be objective. As a result, this is what happens.
Democracy does not mean 'My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'
They not only got their facts wrong sometimes, but they substituted integrity for pandering to hate. They had might as well have just started their own A.M. Radio talkshow for as much non-facts as they crammed in their podcasts.
Respecting someone for doing something unproductive and (in my opinion) a waste of their time, mine, and that of their interviewees is little more than giving out a participation ribbon so somebody's feelings don't get hurt.
Don't confuse 'playing nice' with 'being objective'. Cryptic has been grilled before from other interviewers from other radio stations or podcasts. There was nothing 'nice' about some of these questions, but they were done in a civil and respectful manner.
RSA had a very difficult time being civil and respectful, and that was a problem with them. If you can't be objective, then you aren't relevant to the discussion.
You can grill Cryptic without being a biased tool. If other podcasts and radio stations can do it, RSA can too. They simply chose not to.
If anybody cared about anything RSA had to say about anything ever, then I'm pretty sure their mind on Cryptic was already made up long before Cryptic avoided them. If Cryptic avoided them, and they now see Cryptic as 'poorer' because of it, that's what I'd consider a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If you spend time on your podcasts in a hate-filled rant about Cryptic, then don't be surprised if Cryptic does something (like ignoring you) to make you feel vindicated in that hatred.
Yours is the typical self-centered hypothesis: "I do not do X so that means virtually everyone does not do X, thus X is only being done by whales rather then regular players who just have a different opinion on Lockboxes then I have."
Citations are needed from both of you. Neither of you has offered any proof for your claims as to who or what is funding STO's ongoing development.
I'm honestly more inclined to believe Drakon claim, though, because we have seen time and time again that in the F2P market, it's often a small group of players who are actually keeping their games going. It's certainly possible this isn't the case for STO, but I'd be hard pressed to believe the opposite without evidence--evidence you're not likely to get because Cryptic/PWE don't release these sorts of numbers.
It's all an assumption, really, but some assumptions are more likely to be true than others in this case. I'd love for Drakon to be wrong.
This is correct. Cryptic has no reason to lie about where their primary source of revenue comes from. There's no incentive to skew their results. There is no point in lying 'just to lie'.
To suggest otherwise is a symptom of paranoia, not reality.
I'm not talking about the source. This is matter of degree: What percentage of players are using real world currency to purchase keys? Of that percentage, how many keys is each buying? We haven't seen, nor will we get a breakdown like that.