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    realminirealmini Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    verdict: astounding success. Stay tuned for a rising tide of good pvpers eager and ready to accept the call.
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    realminirealmini Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    New queues are 100 % awesome. Played KDF all day team queues popping every 5 mins instead of every hour. Loved beating up on the Fed cupcakes who used to hide in FvF!

    amen preach it sister! qaplaaa
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    skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    l30p4rd wrote: »
    Not impressed so far, in the mixed arena all I got was premades v's PUG's (us) and stomped, as for the 1v1 2v2 queue, well I very rarely 1v1 in any circumstances, so I just see that channel as a E-Peen massage queue.

    You're doing it wrong. It's a bit masochistic to solo queue in team arena. And obviously in the team arena you are going to run up against premades all day-- that's the point of it. Soloing in the team queue should be left to skilled vets with massive amounts of garumba!

    Queue for the solo/duo arena and you will enjoy it more. It's not actually 1v1's and 2v2's. You still play in a full 5v5 match, it's just that it's all pugs (or max 2 people teamed) and there are no premades there.
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    marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    New queues are 100 % awesome. Played KDF all day team queues popping every 5 mins instead of every hour. Loved beating up on the Fed cupcakes who used to hide in FvF!

    Had a blast with that drain setup we were using! Not only is FvF hiding over, but so is Romulans online as we won every match and never had more then 1 or 2 roms at most against teams that had all roms like that 4 scimitar and 1 arkif team we fought. Best changes for pvp ever, now we just need cross faction queues.
    Tala -KDF Tac- House of Beautiful Orions
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    simeion1simeion1 Member Posts: 898 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    deokkent wrote: »
    That makes no sense. The obvious thing to do to avoid pugstomps is not to bring more premades in the public queues. I'm talking about privately organized matches.

    I should make myself more clear. I premade/fleetmade to avoid bad behavior form players. I don't want to be on a team that has a afker, briefer(running into matches I without shields), grinders that are only in it for the dilithium. I would love to see clean honest matches, problem is people are competitive in nature and don't like to loose. As far a pug stomping it can happen with or without a premade.
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    nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited April 2014
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    ilhanskilhansk Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nandospc wrote: »
    Now we only need the cross faction teaming feature :D

    Yeah, that would be really nice. Cryptic, make it happen!
    Visit the Inner Circle YouTube Channel to watch some STO pew pew PVP action!

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    hunteralpha84hunteralpha84 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Glad it's not just me finding the new queue a lot of fun! :)
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    w3est0fn0w3r3w3est0fn0w3r3 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nandospc wrote: »
    Now we only need the cross faction teaming feature :D

    yes, I was doing a 1v1 with a friend testing out my drain build and after he wanted to que up together so I could drain and he could burn hull.... but alias, my toon was KDF and his was fed.
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    wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited April 2014
    Cryptic needs to do some real match making in the queues. I have been in matches where it was 5 escorts versus 5 cruisers/sci. I was in another where it was 2 escorts and 3 bops versus 4 wells/mobius and something other. Most of the matches I have been in it was mostly out balance one way or the other.
    Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
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    senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Queued twice, got tired.

    Public PvP queues are dead to me now, they just aren't fun after this update.
    Non-Faction PvP in a faction based mmoRPG just feels ultimately pointless to me.

    Guess all hope of a larger scale PvP metagame also died with this ill-concieved update.
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    senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Actually your wrong about that.
    For FvF battles it was "combat simulations" but for FvK and KvK it was supposed to be real and actual combat.(KvK because unlike starfleet Klingons houses would regularly clash with arms in feuds.)

    Regardless, wargames or no, I enjoyed the faction vs faction balance and dynamic.
    Though LoR watered that down a bit, this update outright and completely destroyed it.
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    rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I did play it a few times and every time there was a premade team that caused a melt down on my pug team! Really there is nothing balanced in this game maybe the $~zen ratio thats all :rolleyes:
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    snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rakija879 wrote: »
    I did play it a few times and every time there was a premade team that caused a melt down on my pug team! Really there is nothing balanced in this game maybe the $~zen ratio thats all :rolleyes:

    Just queue up in the Solo and Duo queue.

    The normal queues allow 5-mans to team up, and are considered the premade queues.
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    rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    snoge00f wrote: »
    Just queue up in the Solo and Duo queue.

    The normal queues allow 5-mans to team up, and are considered the premade queues.

    That was the solo queue sadly !
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    rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rakija879 wrote: »
    That was the solo queue sadly !

    A full premade in the solo queue? Is that what you're saying? Teaming up with one friend isn't a premade.
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    wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited April 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    A full premade in the solo queue? Is that what you're saying? Teaming up with one friend isn't a premade.


    BS I heard a PvEer here complain on how it was so wrong to allow any outside the queue teaming for the pug queue :D
    Hey I Used to be Captain Data, well I guess I still am in game but the account link really screwed everything up :rolleyes:
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    mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    We told them that matchmaking would be needed. They decided to save themselves one full hour of coding and skip that. Now we have unbalanced queues. Great job, Cryptic.
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    notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited April 2014
    deokkent wrote: »
    Just tried the new queues, plenty of new faces. But they don't know the power of TT.

    Pugstomps all the matches I did, just because we had like 2 or 3 or 4 veterans on the same team. I quickly got bored.

    thats not the problem.People don't play in team ...you dont need tt on all ships ...you only needed on the one that is the target of the enemy.A healer can live without it if the escorts (which have 2 tt) cast their tt on healer when it needs it.

    They need to make a PvP tutorial ...they made a new game tutorial for fed ,kdf and romulans ...nonthing in that tutorial says anything about playing in team ,sharing heals ,moving all the time ,turning ,staying in reverse for better defense...they wasted time and money on making 3 useless tutorials and I say useless because you can use pvp tactics in pve but you can never use pve tactics in pvp.
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    scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    So can we say, "Told you" now?
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    magniacapramagniacapra Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The main problem is cloaks. new players come in with there shiney federation ship and normally their the only person visible and generally dog meat vape bait. They explode and they leave.

    Beyond that, you might have one team with strong sci healers and vapers and the other team with 5 fawboat engineers, obviously matchmaking would have made a difference - but :cryptic: :rolleyes:
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    mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Whoever allowed this to go live without proper matchmaking needs to be sacked, plain and simple. They had a chance to get it right and they blew it.
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    rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    A full premade in the solo queue? Is that what you're saying? Teaming up with one friend isn't a premade.

    1+1=2 so it is a premade ! And whats so great about them is that they are from a well known pvp fleet :eek:
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    mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    mancom wrote: »
    Whoever allowed this to go live without proper matchmaking needs to be sacked, plain and simple. They had a chance to get it right and they blew it.

    Then we need (moose) to sack (moose) those who were sent (moose) to sack those people (moose) who blew it up (moose).
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
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