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Ok...I still don't see the reason for TWO spheres.
newplayerguy7
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I've run through all the new content, and there is still absolutely no reason why we need to have two Dyson spheres both in the Delta Quadrant.
I mean the Undine have NO use whatsoever for the Iconian gates that are there (they could have easily just popped out of Fludic Space to attack Earth and Qo'nos). The new Undine battle zone could have easily been included in the first story as having the Undine just blow the space door on the other side of the Voth controlled area.
So I ask, what's the need for this second sphere at all? It's totally redundant. I meant really, right now the storyline says the Undine want it so they can invade the Alpha Quadrant, even though they are ALREADY here (that giant rift in the Pelia sector ring a bell?). Additionally, does it make any sense at all that they would attack one sphere to gain access to one choke point gate, so they can get into the other sphere so they can use the other choke point gate, to get into the Tau Dewa system (again with yet ANOTHER choke point gate), to get to Qo'nos and Earth? And why three entire governments don't have massive fleets guarding those gates like the Omega Fleet guarding the Transwarp gate in the Borg sector?
Are the Devs eventually going to blow up one of theses spheres? Is this the reason we need to have it floating the Delta Quadrant just like the other one? A place holder for a future FE plot point?
Because really, there is no point at all for it otherwise.
I mean the Undine have NO use whatsoever for the Iconian gates that are there (they could have easily just popped out of Fludic Space to attack Earth and Qo'nos). The new Undine battle zone could have easily been included in the first story as having the Undine just blow the space door on the other side of the Voth controlled area.
So I ask, what's the need for this second sphere at all? It's totally redundant. I meant really, right now the storyline says the Undine want it so they can invade the Alpha Quadrant, even though they are ALREADY here (that giant rift in the Pelia sector ring a bell?). Additionally, does it make any sense at all that they would attack one sphere to gain access to one choke point gate, so they can get into the other sphere so they can use the other choke point gate, to get into the Tau Dewa system (again with yet ANOTHER choke point gate), to get to Qo'nos and Earth? And why three entire governments don't have massive fleets guarding those gates like the Omega Fleet guarding the Transwarp gate in the Borg sector?
Are the Devs eventually going to blow up one of theses spheres? Is this the reason we need to have it floating the Delta Quadrant just like the other one? A place holder for a future FE plot point?
Because really, there is no point at all for it otherwise.
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How do you know what's easy for the Undine?
We know virtually nothing about how travel between normal space and fluidic space works. Are the portals difficult to maintain? Do they leave the Undine vulnerable in such a way that they'd rather not form portals close to enemy worlds? Would they have to travel a distance equivalent to the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant in fluidic space just to form a portal in the right spot?
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Well with having the lobotomized and gutted playable Nicor summoning 5 other ones from fluidic space in order to form a planet killer every 3 odd minutes, sure sounds like opening rifts is very easy for them. :rolleyes:
And in complete fairness, Voyager was able to open one without too much difficulty back in "Scorpion."
But there could be any number of reasons that the Undine might not want to make rifts all the time.
I like the way this guy thinks...
SPHERES FOR ALL!!!!
How about a sphere in a sphere?
Like those Russian nesting dolls...
Anyone else ever read Illegal Aliens? Maybe a little over the top, but this question made me smirk remembering the part about the multiple-nested Dyson sphere explorations 'til the explorers finally came to the realization that the sphere builder's where bat-TRIBBLE crazy and gave up. High-larious.
What are you, irresponsible?
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Except we need the second gate to get back, otherwise we would be stuck on the far side of the galaxy and would have to pull a Voyager. Look at Sphere of Influence. We all run through the gateway at the start and appear in a place with no gate. We have to find a second gate before we can get home.
As for the need of the second sphere...... I don't know. It's the size of a solar system, so there would be plenty of room. I guess we'll just have to follow the story and find out the reason.
A Romulan Strike Team, Missing Farmers and an ancient base on a Klingon Border world. But what connects them? Find out in my First Foundary mission: 'The Jeroan Farmer Escapade'
My character Tsin'xing
Pretty much this. Whenever there's two epic things in sci-fi one is going to get blown up.
My character Tsin'xing
The one I'm talking about, by Phil Phoglio and I believe Robert Aspirin was involved too (of the Myth series reknown and to those that may remember did some comics at the end of the Dragon magazine), never made a transition to cinema. I'm not sure if it's translatable though. But the BBC did a decent job translating media for Hitchhiker's so I guess it could be possible.
The idea of cracking open sphere after nested sphere, coming up with reasons why *anyone* would endeavor such a feat: Dying sun, xenophobic,... And finally just deciding on plain lunacy. Classic
My assumption is that they wanted to create intrigue behind these Dysons spheres. Remember the Jolean sphere jumped/disappeared when we activated the gateways to save New Romulus. The Solanae sphere allowed for a new sphere which no one really had claims on and gave the Romulans a chance to be in charge of something.
The only reason the Jolean sphere is being used at all in my opinion is to relate back to TNG and have the oh I remember that thing effect.
Now we have a way to get to and from the Delta Quadrant quickly allowing them to draw on Voyager source material which should be a good thing.
If I may quote the movie 'Contact':
"First rule of government spending: Why build one, when you can build two for twice the price?"
Those cracks are ridiculous small compared to the overall structures.
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I mean if my D'Deridex is going to get bounced around when zoning in, I don't see why I can't bounce entire swaths of players in sector space and local space to the edge of the map.
No thanks. You'd cause the apocalypse in any sector you entered.
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Would you want to be known as t he faction that's missing one of their spheres? They come in pairs you know...
Yes this was awful, kind of mandatory though.