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So Cryptic with another Dilithium Nerf.
dark4blood
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So they removed the ability to get multiple neural processors but supposedly increased the amount of Omega Marks you receive. However, they didn't actually increase anything, they just removed the neural processors and increased the possibility of receiving some additional marks that, but overall you don't receive ANY additional marks on a constant basis.
Previously you received:
Minimum with Optional: 75 marks & 1 neural New with with Optional: 75 marks & 1 neural
Minimum W/O Optional: 60 marks & 1 neural New Minimum W/O Optional: 60 marks & 1 neural
^Nothing really changed here.
Maximum with Optional: 115 marks & 11 neural New Maximum with Optional: 75 marks & 55 additional marks = 130 marks
Now if you do the calculations it take 50 marks to get 500 dilithium and now we only get 15 more marks for the removal of 10 neural processors. Remember when Cryptic said they would SIGNIFICANTLY increase Omega Marks with the removal of multiple neural processors? Well I am wondering how is 15 marks a SIGNIFICANT INCREASE! Back to the calculations we have lost.
So, it takes 5 neural processors to get 1000 dilithium, thus if you got 11 that means you would have 3960 dilithium from one mission with 15 omega marks and 1 neural processor left over to add to future missions rewards. That has now been reduced to 1460 dilithium with 30 marks left over for the future.
So, that is a loss of 1500 dilithium per mission not including the fact that the additional neural processor left over has more value than the 30 additional marks in the long run.
I ask this Cryptic, if you are going to nerf DON'T LIE TO US, I think it is pathetic you just couldn't say that to balance the economy of the game we are reducing possible dilithium earned from Borg STF missions. It is sad that not only did you nerf the reputation system and the reputation powers, but you also felt the need to LIE and completely nerf dilithium earning from STF mission YOU call an ENDGAME! Thanks again Cryptic for rewarding your loyal players with more nerfs and regurgitating gameplay.
Previously you received:
Minimum with Optional: 75 marks & 1 neural New with with Optional: 75 marks & 1 neural
Minimum W/O Optional: 60 marks & 1 neural New Minimum W/O Optional: 60 marks & 1 neural
^Nothing really changed here.
Maximum with Optional: 115 marks & 11 neural New Maximum with Optional: 75 marks & 55 additional marks = 130 marks
Now if you do the calculations it take 50 marks to get 500 dilithium and now we only get 15 more marks for the removal of 10 neural processors. Remember when Cryptic said they would SIGNIFICANTLY increase Omega Marks with the removal of multiple neural processors? Well I am wondering how is 15 marks a SIGNIFICANT INCREASE! Back to the calculations we have lost.
So, it takes 5 neural processors to get 1000 dilithium, thus if you got 11 that means you would have 3960 dilithium from one mission with 15 omega marks and 1 neural processor left over to add to future missions rewards. That has now been reduced to 1460 dilithium with 30 marks left over for the future.
So, that is a loss of 1500 dilithium per mission not including the fact that the additional neural processor left over has more value than the 30 additional marks in the long run.
I ask this Cryptic, if you are going to nerf DON'T LIE TO US, I think it is pathetic you just couldn't say that to balance the economy of the game we are reducing possible dilithium earned from Borg STF missions. It is sad that not only did you nerf the reputation system and the reputation powers, but you also felt the need to LIE and completely nerf dilithium earning from STF mission YOU call an ENDGAME! Thanks again Cryptic for rewarding your loyal players with more nerfs and regurgitating gameplay.
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But what really scares me: did a little infected this morning because I was up early (that's a first) and I didn't even get the usual dillithum reward we usually get.
Was that a bug or intention?
add to that that they took away our bonus mark reputation hours last season.
obscene gesture, vulcan neck pinch, claps, cheers
Cryptic new what they were doing when they removed it, but the trouble is, it's like the kids game "Kerplunk", you pull out one straw at a time till all the marbles final fall. This nerf and the rep powers nerf are my final straw.
My marbles have now dropped, time for a break.
Instead of the current nerf-handing why don't they increase the cap levels? Give us some more experience points in specing out our toons. And for once let US decide how we want to spend them insead of diviving them between ground and space.
What stinks is this creates a maddening supply of invisible cooldowns. Will I get the bonus marks or am I too soon? Spin the wheel and find out!
I commend them for giving us a dilithium weekend coming up. Boy do I have a lot of processors to turn in at 3 per. This should buy me enough buffer to deal with the nerf for some time.
But I did enjoy the 11 processors. I'll be missing them.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
It depends on how many STFs you're playing. If you just run a single STF a day, payout will stay about the same with the 55 bonus marks you're getting for the first complettion. After the first one, removing the chance for additional marks and tech has you earing less than before, even when taking into account that it's now only 3 tech per turn-in.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
For now it is something I am merely collecting...
BTW, I asked the following question in the Rep System sub-forum, but after about 25 views no has been able to answer my question...
I stated doing the Omega and Dyson Rep last week. I had no problems completing Tier 1. I believe after filling up the rep points requirement to achieve Tier 1 there was a little project to actually complete Tier 1 and move on to Tier 2.
I have fulfilled the required rep points for Tier 2. However, the only available projects are for gear like the Dyson / Omega / MACO personal shield and a Dyson / Omega console (can't remember). There are no other projects available. Do I simply need do the gear project to complete Tier 2 and move on to Tier 3?
Thx
Mine was actually the previous lot drop system where getting a drop actually felt like "JACKPOT !!" .
The whole BNP system seemed like a pale substitute , but ppl liked it and more got to "win" so I was ok with that for the sake of others .
Then came the Season 7 Dil neft of the STF's and the following collective outrage .
And now we come to a different version of the Season 7 nerf and there is almost no outrage .
This by itself I don't understand .
This coming on top of the nerfs we've had in the past 2 seasons , makes me understand even less .
I saw this coming in the past few weeks too .
And I saw the minimal resistance to it .
And it made me sad and come to some of your conclusions .
Yeah , one in every 3-4 months ?
Is that what the "weekend warriors" were celebrating when they took the bonus hours away ?
I'm sorry , but if New Players to the game would know what's in store for them and how much of a Zero Chance they now have of starting Fresh and building a Starbase with all these nerfs ... .
It's just sad .
But yah, they're pretty much snuffing dilithium routes where they can. From the Dyson commendation dailies to ICE. Surprised there wasn't more of a protest...or if there was, died down quickly in the 'look! we're changing how reps work!'
Heartily seconded. Invisible cooldowns are a pita. If this really is the season of sorting out mechanisms, I'd really like this to be addressed.
These dilithium weekends need to be on a regularised basis.
At the moment, I suspect Cryptic thrown them in when they think we're getting restless.
Which is not, in my view, a sensible or productive approach. For every player who goes 'yay, more dil', there'll be someone who thinks 'how cynical' and decides not to open their wallet.
Stick them, and the marks weekends, on a schedule. Let's say every tenth weekend its bonus dil time, every twelth bonus marks.
At least let us plan ahead.
That about sums it up.
Before S9 dropped excess marks could be turned in at a rate of 50 marks for 500 dil. That is a 1:10 ratio. Now in addition to that we have the new hourlies on all reps. 15 marks gets you 340 dil. Or a ratio of 1:22.67 which is a noted increase.
Yes it is time gated behind a lengthy 60 min gate vs a 15 second one, but if you have the patience the pay out is more then double in the long run. The really long run as it is. I don't know about you gentlemen, but I'm off to begin my 310 hour journey.
I agree with another poster on here, less time on nerfs more on bug fixes.
Right now hourlies are not running right for everyone. It said 3 per rep per 20 hour run, some get to slot one maybe two. Some do not get experience. Hourlies also are inefficient for experience. More importantly, what about the 4 reps I have finished? Can I do hourlies for those?
someone pls explain me how this is not bad?and how is this better then to give 50 marks in 15 sec and geting my 500 dill ?
I did a "NORMAL" Infected space last night, got 15 marks as usual PLUS a box with 55 'Bonus Marks' ... I have never EVER received that many marks for a "normal" STF before ... It's a new toon, so I didn't bother with an elite last night, but perhaps there IS a bug in the payouts.
However I DID notice that simply filling the requirements for rep XP projects, instantly grants you a "gift box' ... In around 1/2 hour of 1 Omega + 1 Romulan Patrol Daily and 1 Tholian RA Daily, I got 6 "gifts" = 2 each for Omega, Romulan, and Nukara.
These boxes had various XI Rep items in them, the same stuff you used to have to "unlock' first, then pay a small fortune in Dil for, plus 1 really, really sweet XII Sonic Antiproton Sniper Rilfe ...
And that still left me with a few extra marks, plus the XP projects are running in the background.
So yeah ... I'm not complaining
not at all
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Yes because I'm going to turn 40k omega marks into dil 15 at a time...
At least they left the Voth battlezone alone. There you can get 8k dil relativly fast.
SHHHHHH, don't say it out loud. They will hear you!!
Oh good grief, you jinxed it now.......
And where did you see this?
This is not true, I just did STF on 2 characters. Both got the 55 Marks Daily Bonus.
All the nerfs were announced if you kept up with dev tracker. They told us they would be removing "jackpots" of getting 6-11 neural processors per run. And removal of 100+ Marks jackpots because of the new 55 Daily bonus.
One of the STFs I just ran failed the Optional but I still got 115 marks from it. 60 for completion, 55 Daily Bonus.