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sulubones
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Title says it all.
My fellow fleet leaders are looking to secure a second fed fleet and also a KDF fleet. I'd prefer it to be at least T3+ for the SB, and at least T2+ for all of the holdings. Please msg me any offers.
Thanks
My fellow fleet leaders are looking to secure a second fed fleet and also a KDF fleet. I'd prefer it to be at least T3+ for the SB, and at least T2+ for all of the holdings. Please msg me any offers.
Thanks
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Seriously?
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Buying such a thing, a group of players with a certain common interest, that is pretty weird.
On the other hand, If fleet tiers could be bought in the zen-store, I would think about purchasing it. I already think about buying LTS when it comes on sale for the the 500 zen stipend. Zen is dilithium and it means I have a constant flow of it for my fleet.
You're right, that would be.
So perhaps I should've stated it a bit clearer: I'm one of five fleet leaders in an already existing fleet. We're at T4 and approaching T5 on our SB, and the three holdings have already been completed. Now our fleeties are finding it more and more difficult to contribute fleet marks and whatnot, thus we feel that we're ready to expand to a 2nd fleet in the near future.
I know there are fleet leaders out there who, for various reasons, are willing to move on from their fleets. Selling us their fleet would solve both parties' needs. Win-win.
Then your people get to donate their marks and smaller fleets get mark boosts they need.
I think the OP is in a position where they have the resources to make the purchase and also prefer to have more control over the whole endeavor than just an agreement in place.
Also, no need to defend yourself OP. This isn't something whacky or out of the ordinary. Hope you find what you're looking for. And good luck.
Not so new, but it's a thing. A thing that needs its own forum subsection, to be sure.
Fleet leaders eh?
And what about the fleet members?
Do you give a flying ferret about them? Or will you just kick them out to make room for your alts?
Now that is a very, interesting, and certainly mandetory question.
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
lol, the 500 Zen stipend is not enough for a single upgrade project
You summarized my fleet's position precisely, snoggymack22. Thank you for the kind words and well wishes. I wish you the same.
Currently, we are nowhere near maximum roster capacity, with many fleet members already having various numbers of alts. And our SB projects are being filled with relative ease. We can and do accommodate new members without issue. To put it simply, roster space isn't a zero-sum game for us. We can absorb new fleet members en masse if it makes sense to.
As for whether we would hypothetically care about legacy fleet members... understand that my attempt here is to secure a second fleet specifically for the welfare of our current fleet members first and foremost. That's the reason this thread was created. If you're looking for moral turpitude I'd suggest looking elsewhere. Otherwise, you're left with a lot of unsubstantiated assumptions. You know what they say about those who assume.
Then perhaps a little clarity for those prospective sellers to read and consider.
Personally I think it deeply disturbing that given the investment some fleet members make in their fleets. For those members to simply be booted from the place they call sto home is highly unethical and I don't feel comfortable with what could happen were this to become more popular...just the other day we had a fleet member donate over a million dilithium to a fleet project, and I'm sure I'm not alone in seeing that as an FA. To see these guys get the boot because someone paid off the fleet leadership would just be criminal.
If however you wish to simply assume leadership of a fleet and add your members as you can to the roster without removing existing players then yeah sure fair enough, I'm not assuming you're a bad guy.
Seeing a few of these threads popping up and a few chats in zone here and there, and I'm not sure about this whole thing.
It can indeed be a good, rewarding endeavour for all parties and I don't dispute that. But its taken me all of about 30 seconds to devise a rudamentory way to abuse this system. I would NEVER consider such a thing but I'm sure not everyone in the world would think this way and could spend much more time thinking about it than I just did. It could lead to bad places...
Thankfully I still have the roster FA promotion/demotion bug in my fleet, so one way or another this will never be a factor in my fleet. Never really saw a silver lining to that cloud til now...
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Has that bug still not been fixed!?! :eek:
Wow, that really needs to be looked at.
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Three bug reports, three gm reports,one thread. the last two reports, though humble and polite were completely ignored. I have to say (off topic I know) that I am mighty p****d about it as I have some superb candidates to replace the no longer playing FA's I could have promoted a long time ago
But this is really a rant I'm saving for another thread
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
So, a rogue FA sells you a whole fleet for their own personal gain, and you feel no responsibility to the fleet members who'd done the donating.
No need for assumptions, you've made that perfectly clear.
Why on earth don't you just start your own sub fleet?
If you're just looking for a way to build up FC, that works too, does it not?
Subfleet members could be easily invited onto your main base for anything they need.
Why not that, eh?
I am already having trouble keeping up with the FC demands of fleetmembers (not a bad thing pe say considering what we know is coming at tier V).
I have several members already working on creating a seperate sub fleet for FC generation that will in time become a fully functional fleet.
I see no reason why you can't do this considering the reasons you stated OP.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Heh, I'm the FA of the sort the OP is trying to buy.
The idea that anyone would sell out their fleet members in such a way makes me a bit sick to my stomach.
Small fleets have heavy going. I'd argue that a tier for a big fleet is worth two from a small fleet.
Many hands make light work, so few hands means hard work.
And its cool, my choice......but the OP is asking someone to betray their fleet members.
Doesnt pass my sniff test, I'm afraid.
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We have had a few other fleets merge into us in our history, and have always made sure that all merging in with us are made comfortable within our fleet.
Why not start one from the ground up? We talked about just making a second fleet from scratch, but we figured that we'd be a bit better off just seeing if any t3+ fleets were available. For the head start it would give us and the ability to possibly find a fleet where the leadership doesn't want to continue managing that fleet, giving their members a chance at ensuring that the fleet they'd been working on is built up strongly, with enough manpower and resources, and with an active leadership, to ensure it reaches t5 successfully.
The Breakfast Club split from another fleet due to how poorly leadership was treating members there. When we split, our main goal was to provide a great community for our members to enjoy. Somewhere they'll enjoy being able to call home and be able to enjoy the game. The impression that we'd kick all of those members goes against how we run things. We would get them fully setup with our fleet and make them as comfortable as we could, giving them access to everything we can offer.
Some may think their fleets are doing just fine, and in reality they may need to merge with another to survive. they may think that they are doing fine, somewhat active in chat or STF's, but its taking longer and longer to tier up your fleet, losing interest, losing the drive that is to further up your fleet in the ranks.
But, in the words of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "There are many ways of going forward, but only one way of standing still" Our fleet didn't get to be where it is today by being satisfied with "Just Fine."
Your fleets may be standing still, and this is a fantastic way to move forward. Standing still, or being content with "just fine," isn't the only issue. While we can easily allow ourselves to be content with "just fine," today, that doesn't always translate into "just fine" tomorrow. In fact, recent years have seen more than a few veteran fleets embark, to the surprise of many, into a downward spiral.
Perhaps nobody should have been surprised their fleets may be stagnant in this pool we call "Star Trek Online" but this game is always changing, fleets and reputation, as well as the player base and the ships themselves. Fleets cannot afford to become complacent or they take their former success for granted. Undoubtedly, there are fleets thriving, and TBC is one of them, fleets that many of us cannot quite imagine, or even yet know about. Honestly, some of these fleets need the boost that we can offer. In some cases, this may be "paying the ultimate price" in the fleet world, but honestly, it is well worth it in the long run. "In the words of Norman Mailer, "There was that law of life, so cruel and so just, that one must grow or else pay more for remaining the same."
I suppose you can characterize these basic truths as "cruel"--depending upon the circumstance. Change is always the most difficult, for example, when it is imminently forced upon us, and so we at the TBC have deemed it necessary to acquire another fleet now. A change, sure, and change can bring discomfort -- That's part of our complex human nature. But these changes will be for the better, to create a better player base, to increase the camaraderie of members of our fleet, and to make STO the best game experience as it can possibly be.
All change is not created equal, and merging with another fleet is a positive change. It will make your fleet stronger, It will bring each of you new experiences to better prepare your own, personal playing skills ahead. As TBC acquires another fleet, we will learn from you, better ourselves from your player base, as you better from ours. As TBC gains from you, so you will gain from us.
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Keep in mind he's looking for a T3 or higher fleet. There's quite a few low activity, or even, "dead" fleets that at one time made it to T3 with aspirations to make it higher.
So I think the OP can find what he's looking for where either the situation won't leave a ton of people out in the cold (because the fleet was dead) or where the activity level was so low that the OP's fleet could be the juice it needs to get active again.
Unfortunately, you're still making assumptions; assumptions about our fleet culture, about our ethics, and about our actions. So on the one hand you're stating that you know our intentions. But then you ask very basic questions. Don't you think we've already asked ourselves those questions?
In this thread I've tried to avoid getting into those specifics, not only because those are philosophical discussions that can be had in more appropriate threads, but also because they truly have no bearing on our particular fleet. I'm extremely comfortable with how we handle ourselves socially in this game, and I'm not compelled to go off on tangents to address these issues. We have no heavy consciences here. Not to mollify you, but I can assure you that any future actions we take will be done with great deference. You fear that we may have bad intent? Well, we don't. But I won't stop you from continuing to assume that of others if that is your wish. I respect and appreciate you looking out for the "greater good" if there is such a thing in a F2P game, but in this case you're looking for something that simply doesn't exist.
To your point, I have a couple of people in my friends list who were indeed, at one time or another, in one of these dead fleets.
With one in particular, she was one of a handful of rank 6 members when her sole fleet leader decided to take a break from the game. He sent them fleet mail saying that he was on vacation for two weeks. After three weeks, she began to worry about where he was, because he did not give rank 6 permission to slot fleet projects. Progression was stalled. She employed my help to try to understand whether or not she could assume leadership at some point if he was gone too long. But after being nearly a month gone, he returned. He didn't relinquish the leadership, and did not promote anyone to co-leadership. She says this fleet leader now has decided to quit playing the game. However, now he just logs on occasionally to ensure that he doesn't go inactive and lose his position. Not all is lost, though. At least now he has given rank 6 the ability to slot fleet projects.
Long story short, I know these fleets exist. If they didn't, others wouldn't have felt compelled to create similar threads in the past.
Right now we are running the dual-track provisioning projects in the three holdings constantly. For the SB we're currently running the three 1000XP projects, but will switch things up regularly. The higher doff input requirements are the biggest cause of stalling, but we still typically fill these within several hours at most. We are running the 30 minute special projects constantly as well.
Even as a fleet that is nowhere near the roster cap, we have zero issues filling all of these projects in a very timely manner. So much so that many of our fleet members are resorting to selling their flarks to other fleets. Let's just say that we have a fantastic group of active members.
And yet we still have fleet members that find themselves in need of fleet credits, with no open projects to contribute to. Again, thus the reason for this thread.
You are in a big fleet so when you do like Jupiter Force for example, Jupiter Force unites with small fleets they share an united channel, the people of Jupiter hop to the small fleet do couple of missions grind some stuff, and put it instead of Jupiter fleet they put it in the small fleet. that fleet base can grow and members of Jupiter force gut fleet marks for it.
Well this way you help small fleets to reach tier 5 and get rewarded for it.
If they do need special stuff they hop back to jupiter force upgrade their stuff and when they need marks they hop back to the small fleet.
This is the Idea of unite fleets players of the big fleets still can earn stuff and members of the small fleet can get marks for it they wanted all along and there is always someone to play with and your small fleet can prosper ...
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Speaking for my fellow fleet leaders, I can tell you that our moral compass points us in the right direction. Every action we take as leaders is done with thoughtfulness. So with all due respect, we certainly don't need others explaining morals and ethics to us.
Personally I am as cynical as they come, so I understand all of the righteous indignation being bandied about. That so happens to be my default perspective on other people. The difference is... I don't go around cautioning or lecturing others.
Again, I'm not trying to slam you in particular, and I actually agree with the various points being made by you and other posters here. I'm just telling you all that you're really barking up the wrong tree.
I suppose that's another way of looking at it. So, yes.