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daedalus304
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I just noticed that every enterprise class vessel has a 2409 skin, even the ambassador has a teeny tiny adjustment. so why not the Excelsior?
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The Ambassador's adjustment isn't 2409, that was a configuration from the shows.
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There isnt one.
exactly. however the op stated "Every Enterprise has a 2409 skin BUT the excelsior" therefor, if the NX doesnt have one, his statement is false.
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However
- Constitution doesn't have one
- Excelsior has the Fleet skin and doesn't need more
- Ambassador has the Fleet skin and doesn't need more
So yeah, disagreed.
If they want to focuss on the Excelsior, give us an Excelsior bridge pack. Now that would be something I'd put money in.
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That's not quite what the OP was getting at though. I believe they were suggesting that the Galaxy has the Venture skin, and the Sovereign has the Reagent. And the Constitution has the Exeter.
At least that's how I read it.
you sadden the exeter-class
It's not a 2409 revamp, refit, or retrofit. It's a replica, like how one might build a replica of the Santa Maria using things like modern power tools and metallurgy.
Source? I've heard that as a possibility for the origins of the Enterprise-A, but never the -B.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28NCC-1701-B%29
Nowhere in there does it say the Ent-B was a rechristened ship, only that the physical filming model was a reuse of the Excelsior filming model.
A refit means the ship was at least close to being service. It happens today, there is going to be another Enterprise Carrier most like with its ship number replacing one that is close to being finished.
Wrong. The Ent-A was a new ship according to the movies, yet its still considered a refit Constitution type.
As far as the carrier Entperise, CVN-80 has already been named as the successor. A ship that hasn't even had its keel laid down, and will not likely be in service before 2025.
The refit in this case doesn't refer to a ship itself actually undergoing a refit, but instead that it belongs to a modified subclass. Under this classification system, the USS Ronald Reagan would be a Nimitz-class refit, despite having been built in its variant configuration.
I knew that already?
I was adding on to your statement, explaining how a freshly built ship could be considered a "refit."
First I am aware of what the movie said but the reality is a starship is not new ship with a 7 year life expectancy
As for the CVN-80 she had a preliminary name until it was decided and approved by all that served on the Enterprise if they wanted the name to go on another carrier. The preliminary was that CVN 79 or 80 was going to be the Forrestal since it has been decommissioned longer.
Unless you are privy to classified material, that was all speculation. The announcement of the CVN-80 as the Enterprise was the first official name for the third Ford-class CVN and it was done with a PR event to show that the name would live on when the CVN-65 deactivated.
As for the Enterprise-A, who knows why the ship was retired after seven years (canon-wise), however given Kirk's final statement of TUC, it was a possibility that the ship would serve on until Generations came around snuff that one out.
Would throw money at Cryptic for a Twok era Bridge, and interior pack.Phaser, and Torpedo effect set as well.Like to see some Twok era ground phasers in the c-store.
No, the NX class is not a 2409 design. However, since she was build up from the ground instead of actually using a NX, I count this as a 2409 design.
As for Constitution, I was talking about the TOS one. The TMP is a refit Constitution, and the Exeter is a refit TMP Constitution. not a refit TOS Constitution. It is the grandchild, not the actual child.
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but glad you id give it to the Sovereign, becasue the other skins make her look rusty., oh and the Akira, and the Intrepid....why not the Defiant RAAAAGE!!!
But you don't always need bells and whistles on stuff...sometimes all you need is a paint job.
The Enterprise B was a brand new starship. She was not another ship prior. She was just a different hull design/modification on the basic Excelsior space frame. She was freshly christened, not re-christened and as Generations showed us, incomplete. Had it been another ship previously it would have had all it's gear. Also it's name wasn't hastily changed as a "reward" for her Captain like the Ti-Ho(Enterprise A) was for Kirk. Enterprise B was not a ship that was previously in service that just got a name change. The Lakota is actually just a sister ship to the Enterprise B. They are all Excelsiors.