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Remove the XP requirement from the Rep system.
azniadeet
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I was just poking around on tribble, and noticed that the updated Rep projects still have an XP requirement.
I'm fine with see commendations done away with, but the one advantage that the commendation system had was that it didn't require XP. The XP requirement is a major obstacle for new characters, and we're in enough of an XP drought as things are, being that the mirror event was done away with.
I would like to see this community get as outraged about how we are being squeezed dry of XP, as we were when we were squeezed dry of Dil back when S7 launched. Something's gotta give with the XP shortage. And I was very dissapointed to see that such a requirement will be reintroduced into the rep system with season 9.
I'm fine with see commendations done away with, but the one advantage that the commendation system had was that it didn't require XP. The XP requirement is a major obstacle for new characters, and we're in enough of an XP drought as things are, being that the mirror event was done away with.
I would like to see this community get as outraged about how we are being squeezed dry of XP, as we were when we were squeezed dry of Dil back when S7 launched. Something's gotta give with the XP shortage. And I was very dissapointed to see that such a requirement will be reintroduced into the rep system with season 9.
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Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
I've only been playing since late last October, and my main's sitting on about 2.3 million xp/expertise...I literally can't spend it all!!
It's a valid concern, though, and my situation may be simply because I've found an overall setup that works for me, so I don't really spend much unless I find it necessary....
Once you've reached endgame, and you're burning through the rep system, it gets used up a lot faster than it gets acquired. We definitely have an XP shortage... I mean, that's what the old mirror event was for- it was the only reliable way to recharge an endgame toon's XP for a while.
Officially Nerfed In Early 2410
Nope.
Doffing is a pretty good source, so long as you keep at it.
Might not pay out all in one chunk, but its steady and the return gets better as you acquire better doffs.
Story missions pay a reasonable chunk.
There's no end of shooting galleries in the foundry that also toss out lots of XP.
This alleged lack of XP is merely people not wanting to do the things that give XP.
The old Mirror Invasion got people a bit lazy, imo.
I had a new toon that hit this alleged XP wall. Was levelling all the reps simultaneously and got to around tier 2.2 and run out.
Took me a mere day of concentrating on it to amass enough XP from the above mentioned routes to see me through the rest of it.
Expertise is easy to get... I never have enough Expertise to do what I want.
Marks are easy to get... I never have enough Marks to do what I want.
This forum is the like the Yin and Yang of the universe.
My newer characters can't get enough expertise by running missions that earn me the marks I need to do reputation. Running missions for marks for 3 reputations, I get enough expertise to start one project. To run the other 3-5 projects I would need to do several unrelated missions just for the expertise. Per day.
Expertise requirements need to be toned down.
DAMMIT RINKSTER >=/
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
Rinkster is OP, plz nerf
waitaminute,........
Exactly where I am. My one long term established toon is set for life as far as XP goes. My three more recent toons can't handle the costs...
This notion that you can make enough in 20-30 minutes is demonstrably absurd. I play endgame content a lot, and I can't keep up with these costs at a healthy pace.
This is why people ran the Mirror Invasion wall to wall for each hour it was on the schedule. It's not like people were running it for no reason. It was THE XP grind, and now that it's gone, we're seeing increased costs. That's not sustainable.
There needs to be some relief. Supply for XP is going down, and demand for XP is going up. That is not economically healthy.
The new rep will only take 2k for the daily, with a maximum of 5k per day for reputation XP. Running only the daily will cost you 80k Expertise for the entire reputation, and you should be getting about 2k a day just from very casual doffing along with running the missions to get the marks for the daily.
Running only the big rep project will be an 80% Expertise discount on a per-project basis compared to the old Tier IV-V project, while also offering a +25% increase in Rep XP gained. Factoring in the old scaling, if you ran only the big-XP project (the most efficient way to gain Rep XP) and had no sponsorship tokens, it's an overall 82% Expertise cost reduction per reputation.
The total Marks it costs you also take a hit: 1570 down to 1025 (including the 5 tier-up projects), which is only a 34.7% reduction.
So, in regards to Expertise, you'll be able to run all five Reputations on a fresh character with no Sponsorship for the Expertise it used to cost you to run just Omega rep.
Officially Nerfed In Early 2410
I dont see the problem, OP
http://i.imgur.com/EK976E2.jpg
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
ANYway, I leveled this guy without doffing or foundry, just Episodes, until I hit level 40 and stopped getting any quests. I was too low level for anyone to talk to me. By the time I hit 50 and started building rep, rep building at twice the speed of a true noob thanks to sponsorship, I had right around 100k expertise.
I got lucky of course with the new Mirror Event, but since that's over the OP might just have a point. Not much of a point for those of us that have been around, but I can't imagine some newblood will look on the lack with much enthusiasm.....
I ran the Dyson rep system spending 0 expertise with two of my toons. I understand the move away from commendations, but to add expertise to that project while taking away the best source of expertise, is a real problem.
Not to mention the heavy expertise costs for rep gear once you've leveled through the system. That's what you should really be saving for.
I can't play for 20 minutes a day! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!? I CAN ONLY PLAY FOR 10 SECONDS! 10!!!
For a new toon doing five reps, that's 10,000 for each set of dailies, and 5,000 for each set of hourlies.
And I can't think of many endgame missions that pay 2000 xp.
What's amazing is how this forum erupts into a rage when they're required to play through a grind for a free ship, yet when a systematic cost affects the gameplay of newer toons, those same veteran players diminish the problems faced by others.
Thats the ticket, laddie.
All of my toons are dedicated doffers (im semi retired atm except for contraband) that have generated over 20 million expertise in the last 6 months alone.
The char i just screenshotted and linked earned something like 3 million expertise logging in 5 minutes a day for 2 months. At the same time I did all four of her reps. Easy peasy, I didnt even "have" to do anything else aside from mark grinding.
Not to mention doffing romulan SROs twice a week on four toons earned me a small fortune to gear it up with.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
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Officially Nerfed In Early 2410
Even the Lore quizzes at the Academies pay 1770 (sometimes 1769 for whatever reason) expertise at level 50. I'd have to log in to be certain, but I think that claiming the datachip at the same place is also 1770 expertise. 3540 expertise and 480 dilithium in about a minute. Most episode replays are around 4000 expertise, so find a quick one of those.
I used to doff more, but once you've been at it for a while, you get bored of it and start avoiding it like the plague. I still do it for buffs I can use in PvP and contraband, but rarely to get good amounts of EC like I used to.
My character Tsin'xing
I have several characters. Some I play regularly, others are on a long shore leave. Some of those characters are from the time I began to play this game, about 2 years, others are just some months old. What I do is log in on most of my characters, set up doff missions and fill in reputation projects. The young characters are died up or almost dried up of xp.
It is a self made problem. I do not play these characters much and doff missions is not enough for 2 or 3 reputation projects. Also a player that started a couple of weaks ago, will have probably be at level 50 now and go start all the reputation projects. Older players have done the reputations one by one.
Conclusion for me is that you have to do the micromanagement yourself. Set your priorities and make a plan. Getting xp is indeed no problem. If it is, that is because you made it so.
So they are giving us a bit of a reprieve on that pain.
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