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I'm 50 for a while now, what science ship should I aim for?
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Hello, I'd like to have some information/advice from the community.
So from the last point on, I've been 50 for quite a while and I've always ran cruisers. My class is science and I've recently got my hands on a mirror science ship.
Now I've been browsing through the list, but I can't find a worthy upgrade.. Most ships need me to buy either Fleet Modules or Zen which brings me to point 1. My fleet is only L2 in shipyard (close to L3) and leaving them just to buy a ship I won't do.
So I'd like some advice. I've been browsing the internet searching for ships to get, but I can't really find anything. I'm bored of flying L40 ships because the real ships cost either money or Fleet L5 stuff. I don't mind working for a ship, but waiting for projects to finish so I can get a ship in maybe 3 months is something I hate.
What science ship that comes with 10 consoles and around 30k hull should I go for that doesn't cost real money?
- I'm not eager to pay money for a ship
- I'm L50 for about a month now
- Reputations are getting on, T4 omega with Dyson T3 and the rest T2 following up
- Gear is alright, got some fleet things, some nice set parts etc
- I'm missing a proper science ship...
So from the last point on, I've been 50 for quite a while and I've always ran cruisers. My class is science and I've recently got my hands on a mirror science ship.
Now I've been browsing through the list, but I can't find a worthy upgrade.. Most ships need me to buy either Fleet Modules or Zen which brings me to point 1. My fleet is only L2 in shipyard (close to L3) and leaving them just to buy a ship I won't do.
So I'd like some advice. I've been browsing the internet searching for ships to get, but I can't really find anything. I'm bored of flying L40 ships because the real ships cost either money or Fleet L5 stuff. I don't mind working for a ship, but waiting for projects to finish so I can get a ship in maybe 3 months is something I hate.
What science ship that comes with 10 consoles and around 30k hull should I go for that doesn't cost real money?
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The best stuff is gonna cost you cash.
Level two shipyard, you say.
Then my recommendation would be to grind dil to zen and go for a fleet nova.
Or a hell of a lot Dilithium on the Dilithium Exchange.
From the free ones, I would probably recommend the Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit. It's certainly my favourite.
Alternatively, you could perhaps look on the regular Exchange and see if there is some Mirror Science Vessel available there for a decent price? But that won't really be an improvement on any other Tier 5 Science Vessel.
Unfortunately, I really see very little reason to fly anything else but the Vesta from the SVs I own. I don't have the Dyson, but let's face it, that ship is butt ugly (Federation and Klingon, Romulan is fine), even if it's good and all, I would never use that for long.
The Fleet Nova might be an option, too.
If you don't want to pay money, that's fair enough - get grinding out dilithium to transfer into zen. It'l take a while, but it's free!
It's fleet level, it's got 5 science consoles, it's got a hanger bay, and it's got a phaser DHC's that run of AUX power. It's the perfect science ship :cool:
Wells is also interesting, if you like to do sciency stuff.
Vesta will cost you money, or a lot of dil. The consoles are cool to, as are the sets, which is worth mentioning since a lot of Cstore console set are meh. The aux cannons are nice to, even if a lot of people don't like them. I enjoy having 135 aux powers. Not a lot of ship can have 135 weapon power, the vesta can that way.
Wells can be bought from the exchange (don't even try to buy key and get lucky, with less than 0.5% chance to drop one, you'll probably never have it that way).
If anyone have over 36 million EC in STO game. mail me. my character's name is Rorke@trekwar10. i'm wanting to buy a fleet ship but i have all the requirements but 4 Fleet Ship Modules(FSM's). if anyone have over 36 Million EC. mail me please. i know its a little off topic. but i need help.
As for the shipyard issue, most fleets will let you leave to buy a ship and then rejoin at the same rank after you are done. But its not really needed either, since there are a couple of really good fleet ships from low-tier shipyards.
Fleet Recon, which requires T2 shipyard, is a very solid science-fighting ship. It has a full 4/3 sci station layout so it can run dual LtCmdr sci abilities in addition to the Cmdr ability, and it has 4 tac consoles that helps the weapons do more damage on its own more easily. Very straightforward ship. It also compares favorably to the Vesta that everybody raves about--it has more hull, better shields, better turn-rate, and the same number of tac consoles as the best Vesta, and only missing a hangar anmd the abiltiy to use DHCs. This is my Fed Sci captain's main ship for running around.
The Fleet Research ship only requires T1 shipyard. It is very flexible with LtCmdr engi station that lets you run Emergency Power 3 to Aux or Weapons or Shields or whatever, which helps it to fill multiple roles. It doesnt have a lot of tactical consoles or stations, and it gives up the LtCmdr sci station for a 4/2/1 sci layout so it only has one LtCmdr ability (along with the Cmdr ability), which limites the offensive options some. Be careful not to buy the regular (non-fleet) Research Vessel Retrofit, since it only has 9 consoles and less hull/shields than the Fleet upgrade.
T3 shipyard has the Science Vessel which is a small little science frigate, very agile, easy to put DBBs on a target, and can do moderate damage with the LtCmdr tac seat. It also pays for that tac BOFF upgrade with a 4/2/1 sci staiton layout so you give up the second LtCmdr sci station to get it, but if you want to get into close-up fights with a sci ship this is the one to do it with. I also have this ship, setup for a disable build and some DBB/torp loadout, a real knife-fighter sci ship. Its T3 shipyard so you need to either wait for your fleet or get an invite somewhere. Also be careful not to buy the non-fleet version.
Any of those three will get you a really solid step into fleet sci ships.
I'm currently flying the Mirror recon (which is the deepspace normal I guess). It's not bad, but I'm missing 1 console. I guess I should go grind some EC to get myself some modules to get something better.
depends on your faction.
1. you dont need to pay a penny on the game to get what you need, all you need to have is a little patience on the gate grind on the dilthium or gather credits from trash loot.
2. chances are you will be at level 50 for a while to come.
3. upto about a month ago i was well on the way to getting t5 reps across the board, but lost interest to X3 AP at the time.
4. fleet gear the best you can get.. until pwe decide to go to mark 13 gear. dont forget some rep gear you can get.
5. for now you are stuck with a limited choice, put some effort into grinding for dilthium, after a while you will get enough for the z-store or enough to pay up for a fleet provision. or going for the mirror universe ships from the exchange wth credits, they shouldnt cost that much.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
It is like most Sci Ships but with Ensign and LtCom Universal BOffs seats. Best of all (in my opinion) it comes with weapons that work based on Aux Power and not Weapon Power. That means that you can have full attack power and full sci-skill power at the same time. You won't have to pick and choose which one you want anymore.
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EDIT: Having now read other repsonses, ursusmorologus nails it. You've got two solid fleet alternatives right now at T2, and if you are close to getting your fleet to T3, I would recommend getting that Fleet Nova. It's got a nice layout for a fleet science ship. Can do some great stuff.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Reconnaissance_Science_Vessel
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Multi-Mission_Strategic_Explorer
This link also has a comparison between the main Sci ships as well as the 3 Vesta variants.
Hope this helps.
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For a sci captain I'd suggest Wells because you get sensor, tipler cylinder (over the craptastic Mannheim device), the same Boff loadout, and better shields for the cost of 1 fore weapon slot.
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Mid range, it really isn't that hard to save enough dil or EC to get a C-store or Fleet ship. Going that route, Nebula or Vesta are the hands down winners. Nebula is more defensive, Vesta more offensive. D'Kyr, even with the lack of a fleet version, isn't bad if you can work her. Also, I would expect a fleet version at some point, maybe not tomorrow but I could see one within the next year easily. She loses some of the versatility of the Nebula, but has the distinction of being the only ship in the game that can Extend Shields itself. The other fleet sci ships, by and large, can be replaced by smart building of either of the above 3 ships.
High end, the only lockbox sci ship that I ever see anybody mention is the Temporal Sci. She is quite possibly the best of the bunch. That said, she is right in line with a Vesta or a Nebula, being the perfect ship sitting between them. She can lean heavy tac or engineering, where the other 2 will leave you wanting in one area (Nebula is rather tac light, even if you use the universal slot as a tac, and the Vesta has less hull than the larger BoPs...) The Temporal Sci can go either and not sweat. The Tholian Sci ship has the potental to be one of the most resilient things in space, at least on paper, but I never see them. Ever. They must have some major malfunction that I am unaware of. I have no familiarity with the Voth science ship, and to be honest have so little interest in the Voth that I cannot identify the 3 different playable Voth ships by sight... Sorry... Even I can't know ever stat of every ship :P
KDF, there is only one answer, and that is the Kar'Fi. Yeah, its not a sci ship, its a Carrier, but its that good... But you can't listen to me I'm biased I love that thing...
Edit: When I want to fly sci on my Fed sci character, I prefer an Atrox, Sci ody, Fleet Ambassador, or any of the available escorts with a LtCom sci. I'm not telling you not to fly a sci ship, just a friendly reminder not to lock yourself into the "I am a sci character, must fly a sci ship" state of mind that can be difficult to break.
Edit2: The Dyson, while I don't own it to give real, hands on info, IMO is inches behind the Vesta, and about a foot ahead of the Nebula, for the Federation version. The KDF is a nice ship, and the Romulan version is pure gold. If you like sci ships. (I do have all 3 free ones, but I did not get the set, I learned with the Vesta that I would never really fly it...)
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