test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

Constellation-class Please!

sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Federation Discussion
I don't know if very many people noticed by for a while when the Mirror Universe Heavy Cruiser Retrofit was first available, one of the saucer skin options was a Constellation-class. None of the other parts were skinable with Constellation type looks though.

I actually liked that old-school look and have it to this day on my ship; I realize that they pulled it but it would be REALLY nice if they would finish the skins and make it available again!

But then I like the Excelsior because it looks like a serious ship. :)

So, Devs, PLEASE bring back the Constellation-class skin with all it's pieces! Please!

Would be nice to have a ship that's a kitbash of the old, odd styles like some of the crazy ones in TNG during the Wolf 359 Borg incursion. I would even pay Zen! Seriously. Thanks.
Star Trek Battles Channel - Play Star Trek like they did in the series!Avatar: pinterest-com/pin/14003448816884219Are you sure it isn't time for a "colorful metaphor"? --Spock in 'The Voyage Home'
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
Post edited by sirokk on
«1

Comments

  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    My guess is the full Constellation class will come some shortly after Season 9 hits us.
    The appearance on the MU version was just a glitch.
    Have faith, have patience and then...have fun when the ship finally arrives.:D
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It is already in the game as the T3 Commander ship.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Heavy_Cruiser
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Age StarTrek-Gamers Administrator
    USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
    Star Trek Gamers
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    age03 wrote: »
    It is already in the game as the T3 Commander ship.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Heavy_Cruiser

    None of those are constellation class.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It says it in there just need the Connies skin.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Age StarTrek-Gamers Administrator
    USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
    Star Trek Gamers
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    age03 wrote: »
    It says it in there just need the Connies skin.

    No, really, none of them are the Constellation.

    The Cheyenne is its own class. A kitbash ship that appeared on screen as cannon fodder at wolf 359. The Dakota and Stargazer are Cryptic designs. The Stargazer is named after Picard's first command, which WAS a Constellation class ship, the USS Stargazer. But they're not the same ship. It's like saying the Horizon and Olympic are the Daedalus. Just because they all have round ball fronts instead of saucers.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The skin could be added for measely 50 to 100 zen it would look axactly like the one in the show.I don't think there that were many produced.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Age StarTrek-Gamers Administrator
    USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
    Star Trek Gamers
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    age03 wrote: »
    The skin could be added for measely 50 to 100 zen it would look axactly like the one in the show.I don't think there that many prodiced.

    It could. But they stopped doing that ages ago. Now they sell new skins either with new ships (like the Reagent skin on the Assault Cruiser Retrofit) or make them special unlocks with fleet ship purchases or something like that (like the Imperial Skin that unlocks with the Fleet Assault Cruiser).

    They have the Constellation skin in there already as the glitch the OP refers to demonstrates.

    Who knows what they plan to do with it.

    Since that ship exists at Fleet Level AND has a mirror variant, whenever they get around to making the full constellation skin available, people should get a chance to fly a T5 version of it in some fashion through just being able to customize either the retro, the fleet retro or the mirror version.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It could. But they stopped doing that ages ago. Now they sell new skins either with new ships (like the Reagent skin on the Assault Cruiser Retrofit) or make them special unlocks with fleet ship purchases or something like that (like the Imperial Skin that unlocks with the Fleet Assault Cruiser).

    They have the Constellation skin in there already as the glitch the OP refers to demonstrates.

    Who knows what they plan to do with it.

    Since that ship exists at Fleet Level AND has a mirror variant, whenever they get around to making the full constellation skin available, people should get a chance to fly a T5 version of it in some fashion through just being able to customize either the retro, the fleet retro or the mirror version.

    Hopefully it'll be a free skin option someday.

    I'd be good and bad if they did a "TOS Lock Box". It could open the possibility that they would create other retro models and skins for the package. But then you would have to pay WAY more to get a ship. :/
    Star Trek Battles Channel - Play Star Trek like they did in the series!Avatar: pinterest-com/pin/14003448816884219Are you sure it isn't time for a "colorful metaphor"? --Spock in 'The Voyage Home'
    SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Technically the skin was available for a short time after the Hirogen LB was introduced for the Mirror Heavy Cruiser. Cryptic gave a mea culpa and took it away unless you got the ship and used the skin before they fixed the error in a patch. Those few are lucky to have it now.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Reality check: The Constellation-class was an outdated junk heap when Picard commanded one in the 2340s. Direct quote from "Relics": "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." That is not the description of something I ever want to see next to my 2409 Avenger in an STF.

    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
    VZ9ASdg.png

    Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Reality check: The Constellation-class was an outdated junk heap when Picard commanded one in the 2340s. Direct quote from "Relics": "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." That is not the description of something I ever want to see next to my 2409 Avenger in an STF.

    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.

    News Flash: If Cryptic thinks they can make money off it, either through using it directly or as leverage to move some other product related to it, they're gonna do so.

    I mean, really, I don't remember "Swordfight Giant Cyborg Pseudo-Dinosaurs" as being part of the expected duties of a Starfleet Officer, but here we are anyway.
    If you feel Keel'el's effect is well designed, please, for your own safety, be very careful around shallow pools of water.
  • exombreexombre Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I really like the idea of a TOS Lockbox...I want those TOS ship designs and have retrofit options. I always liked the TOS Romulan Warbird and for 500 zen I can get the Enterprise, so it doesn't seem like it would be too much to get a retrofit of that original ship design.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    exombre wrote: »
    I really like the idea of a TOS Lockbox...I want those TOS ship designs and have retrofit options. I always liked the TOS Romulan Warbird and for 500 zen I can get the Enterprise, so it doesn't seem like it would be too much to get a retrofit of that original ship design.

    The Constellation isn't a TOS ship. So why would it be in a TOS lockbox?

    It's not even a TMP/TWOK era ship. It's like after that era. Kind of coincides with the Ambassador.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.

    Then why do you support a revamp of the Galaxy? That old bucket of bolts is not about the future. The Sovereign replaced it. And the Odyssey replaced them both. 2409 yo!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • neos472neos472 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I mean, really, I don't remember "Swordfight Giant Cyborg Pseudo-Dinosaurs" as being part of the expected duties of a Starfleet Officer, but here we are anyway.

    Wierd is part of the job man =P always expect the unexpected
    manipulator of time and long time space traveler
  • knightdmosaic170knightdmosaic170 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Reality check: The Constellation-class was an outdated junk heap when Picard commanded one in the 2340s. Direct quote from "Relics": "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." That is not the description of something I ever want to see next to my 2409 Avenger in an STF.

    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.



    Now part of me wish's that if they ever release this ship that it ends up like the Jem'Hadar Attack ship. In Star Trek Cannon it was the old worn out ship. However, in STO it would be the Cruiser DPS God of the Federation lineup.

    Okay, that is never going to happen. Still, I like to hope they let the Constellation out. I have always had a thing for fed ship's that weren't the newest, most powerful, or flagship of the fleet. Plus, the STO Cruiser landscape could use some more Variety. Less big Cruiser's and more smaller ones at the Tier 5 level.

    Federation Officer's can use Cardi, Jem'Hadar, Hirogen, and Breenships to mention a few. The reality/world of Star Trek was broken long ago. Either way, at this point tossing in the Constellation wouldn't hurt. You can get into an STF with four Scimitar Dreadnought's; which sucks by the way, so why not toss in a old Constellation as well.

    Note: It might even given the Tier 5 Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit/Heavy Cruiser Retrofit/Mirror Heavy Cruiser Retrofit some attention. They are great ships that get ignored by most people. They are the cheap, have a turn rate of 8, and while not most powerful our more than effective for endgame use.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Then why do you support a revamp of the Galaxy? That old bucket of bolts is not about the future. The Sovereign replaced it. And the Odyssey replaced them both. 2409 yo!

    The Galaxy and the Sovereign were in service concurrently. The latter is not a replacement for the former. Also, the Galaxy was designed for approximately a hundred year service period, a period that, given the Ent-D's launch in 2363 (and she was part of the first production run of six), it's not even halfway through yet.

    Whereas the Constellation was a bucket of bolts twenty-odd years before the GCS was even built. (BTW, nice quote mine.)
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
    VZ9ASdg.png

    Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    May as well put the Constellation in.

    It's not like Cryptic's designs have all been big successes. At least with a canon design, you know some people will like it; they all have their fans after all (even the really obscure and ugly ones, like the Yeager).
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    The Galaxy and the Sovereign were in service concurrently. The latter is not a replacement for the former.

    In terms of which ship bore the name Enterprise ...
    Also, the Galaxy was designed for approximately a hundred year service period, a period that, given the Ent-D's launch in 2363 (and she was part of the first production run of six), it's not even halfway through yet.

    It's old. It's a bucket of bolts. And the Odyssey has made it completely irrelevant. Why do you support old ships when you clearly want to play in a 2409 Starfleet with newer better ships? That's NOT the Galaxy. Starfleet obviously moved on from the Galaxy, making all those other, newer cruisers.

    That's what I can't figure out. Your whole harangue against the Constellation applies just as much to the Galaxy. Why is it others who like a ship like the Constellation have to move on and get with 2409. But you, who also like an old ship, can get a pass from your own advice?

    You should be all about rocking the Imperial, or the Nomad or the Odyssey. Not the Galaxy. Old old ship like the Galaxy needs to be doing supply runs between Earth and Alpha Centauri. If that.

    And my word, I haven't even mentioned the Avenger yet.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Technically the skin was available for a short time after the Hirogen LB was introduced for the Mirror Heavy Cruiser. Cryptic gave a mea culpa and took it away unless you got the ship and used the skin before they fixed the error in a patch. Those few are lucky to have it now.

    That's what I have now, it was just the saucer. I'm just hoping they will make the rest of available someday.
    Star Trek Battles Channel - Play Star Trek like they did in the series!Avatar: pinterest-com/pin/14003448816884219Are you sure it isn't time for a "colorful metaphor"? --Spock in 'The Voyage Home'
    SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Reality check: The Constellation-class was an outdated junk heap when Picard commanded one in the 2340s. Direct quote from "Relics": "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." That is not the description of something I ever want to see next to my 2409 Avenger in an STF.

    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.

    Seriously?

    So do also hate it when you see people driving up next to you in cars that are more than 20 years old or doesn't rate highly in Consumer Reports. Do you run up to them and tell them to go buy a new car... because you think that it devalues you car?

    Who needs a Reality Check?
    Star Trek Battles Channel - Play Star Trek like they did in the series!Avatar: pinterest-com/pin/14003448816884219Are you sure it isn't time for a "colorful metaphor"? --Spock in 'The Voyage Home'
    SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Reality check: The Constellation-class was an outdated junk heap when Picard commanded one in the 2340s. Direct quote from "Relics": "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." That is not the description of something I ever want to see next to my 2409 Avenger in an STF.

    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.
    If they want older generation of Trek fans to buy ships then they better sell older variety of ships classes.

    ^Exactly my point to the one above.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Age StarTrek-Gamers Administrator
    USS WARRIOR NCC 1720 Commanding Officer
    Star Trek Gamers
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I believe they were working on this.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    sirokk wrote: »
    Seriously?

    So do also hate it when you see people driving up next to you in cars that are more than 20 years old or doesn't rate highly in Consumer Reports. Do you run up to them and tell them to go buy a new car... because you think that it devalues you car?

    Who needs a Reality Check?

    What does that have to do with a Tier 5 Constellation? You don't expect a 1975 Chevy (Tier 1) to do as well as a 2013 Ferrari (Tier 5.5).
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    sirokk wrote: »
    Seriously?

    So do also hate it when you see people driving up next to you in cars that are more than 20 years old or doesn't rate highly in Consumer Reports. Do you run up to them and tell them to go buy a new car... because you think that it devalues you car?

    Who needs a Reality Check?
    What? :confused: Seriously? That's the comparison you're making? Because last I looked you weren't expected to defend a frakking country in a twenty-plus-year old car.

    The comparison I'm making is more like the USS Constitution (the real one) versus the USS Ronald Reagan. Or a P-51 Mustang versus an F-35 Lightning II.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
    VZ9ASdg.png

    Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    A Tier 5 Constie is a must!

    Along with a T5 Obie!

    O that @#$%TRIBBLE%'n Berth y'all! Make it happen!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Technically the skin was available for a short time after the Hirogen LB was introduced for the Mirror Heavy Cruiser. Cryptic gave a mea culpa and took it away unless you got the ship and used the skin before they fixed the error in a patch. Those few are lucky to have it now.

    Just the saucer but it still indicates its coming.
    Although... the MACO costumes exists for more then a year and are still not available.
    starswordc wrote: »
    Reality check: The Constellation-class was an outdated junk heap when Picard commanded one in the 2340s. Direct quote from "Relics": "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." That is not the description of something I ever want to see next to my 2409 Avenger in an STF.

    This is 2409, not 2333, not 2293, not 2265, and most certainly not 2151. Star Trek is about the future. Leave the past in the frakking past.

    Reality check: Its a game based on a TV show. None of it is reality.
  • aedayaeday Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    What? :confused: Seriously? That's the comparison you're making? Because last I looked you weren't expected to defend a frakking country in a twenty-plus-year old car.

    The comparison I'm making is more like the USS Constitution (the real one) versus the USS Ronald Reagan. Or a P-51 Mustang versus an F-35 Lightning II.

    This is something I really don't understand. It has been proven time & again in Star Trek that retrofitted ships happen. I've not seen anyone say that ships like the Constellation would be front line. I'm not saying they defiantly wouldn't be but of course there are better options for that job. But there are also support ships & I think these older birds, with a few tweaks here & there, could do that job valiantly.
    "I'm a science officer. It's my job to have a better idea."
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    aeday wrote: »
    This is something I really don't understand. It has been proven time & again in Star Trek that retrofitted ships happen. I've not seen anyone say that ships like the Constellation would be front line. I'm not saying they defiantly wouldn't be but of course there are better options for that job. But there are also support ships & I think these older birds, with a few tweaks here & there, could do that job valiantly.

    Tell that to the Galaxy. It's practically useless in this game, and marginal at best in PvE. So much for STO adhering to the universe it belongs to.
    A Tier 5 Constie is a must!
    You know better than to bring that up.
    stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
    Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9
    My List of Useful Links, Recently Updated November 25 2017!
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    You know better than to bring that up.

    No, I said a T5 ConStie. Constie with an S. Constellation.

    It's what I'm now dubbing these threads. T5 CONSTIE threads! And I totally support the addition of a T5 Constellation skin added to the Cheyenne/Dakota/Stargazer lineup!

    T5 Constie!

    (Not for nothing, but that there's a mixup over Constellaton and Constitution is kind of funny since it's called Constellation in TNG because they needed to edit it in over Geordi saying Constitution in post production! Or so the story goes with that episode! Haha!)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sign In or Register to comment.