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borgus1122borgus1122 Member Posts: 243 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Federation Discussion
Hi to all. I'm to buy a new ship. But can't made up my mind. So Must choose between Galaxy class refited and Avenger class. Now I need some opinions from you guys, which one is better? Tho, I don't like the looks of Avenger, but like the Galaxy class looks. But on the other hand, Avenger is as I think more powerfull.
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  • stomperx99stomperx99 Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The Avenger is no doubt a beast in combat from experience. Both the Galaxy and the Gal-X can take more punishment but as slow as TRIBBLE and deal out as much damage. In the long run, I know some may disagree with me but the Avenger is the better warship, from my opinion.....


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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borgus1122 wrote: »
    Hi to all. I'm to buy a new ship. But can't made up my mind. So Must choose between Galaxy class refited and Avenger class. Now I need some opinions from you guys, which one is better? Tho, I don't like the looks of Avenger, but like the Galaxy class looks. But on the other hand, Avenger is as I think more powerfull.

    Until we get a T5 Oberth, I'm going to have to recommend:

    - The Avenger if you want to get really high DPS parses and generally feel like you've got a powerful offensive ship. A tank-mage ... a damage dealer ... whatever.

    - The Galaxy if you don't care about that, and really are more into the looks and what not. Since you say that's what you like the look of.

    It's really not that big a deal. Both can function at the end-game. One can just do more damage.
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  • knightdmosaic170knightdmosaic170 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Really, after reading your post it comes down to a single question. Can you look at the Avenger all day long?

    If you can, get the Avenger. It is a better deal for twenty five bucks and doesn't need a special console's to be at it's best. It will hit harder, turn faster, use Cannons/Dual Beam Banks better, and has a better passive ship bonus(+10 Weapons and Engines). It's a Klingon Battle Cruiser in Federation Skin. Which isn't a bad thing. Klingon ships are fun. You can even equip a cloak on it if you ever get one.

    As for the Galaxy Line, if you like it and you want to use it just get it. Yes, it's not as good as the Avenger. The Galaxy X/Galaxy turns like a bus and the only way to have it at it's absolute best is to use a Galaxy X with the Antimatter Spread, Saucer Separation, and the cloak with a 4000 zen price tag. Your going to lose three console space's right away. While what you get from it isn't bad, its good actually, it's up to you to figure if it's worth the price. As it's been said, in the end it's an effective end-game ship.

    So, if you can standing looking at the Avenger for hour's it's the best one to get.

    If you like the look's of the Galaxy Line and that matter's more to you get Galaxy Bundle or Galaxy ship you like. It's a little more money to make the best Galaxy you can, but the Galaxy/Galaxy X line is fun all the same.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited April 2014
    I have both. Hands down the Avenger deals more damage, and still has a decent federation profile. Personally I think she's sexy.
  • ragnar0xragnar0x Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I own fleet avenger, very good ship but i got bored by it. It has great firepower because of 5 fore 3 aft but it is kinda ugly and everyone fly those.

    but now switched to my Aventine multimission and i love it, it don't have that great firepower but with vesta pack and 3 consoles makes it very good ship, it can withstand lots of dmg but it have only 41k hull while avenger got 62k.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borgus1122 wrote: »
    Hi to all. I'm to buy a new ship. But can't made up my mind. So Must choose between Galaxy class refited and Avenger class. Now I need some opinions from you guys, which one is better? Tho, I don't like the looks of Avenger, but like the Galaxy class looks. But on the other hand, Avenger is as I think more powerfull.

    Essentially you have given your answer yourself.

    You can have a classic awesome design with a lack of power or an ugly mary sue.
    I'd personally favor the first....
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I own fleet versions of both, the Avenger pulls out much more DPS and the Galaxy can take much more beating. In the current end-game in STO, having more DPS is more relevant but in no way a prerequisite.

    That said, the Fleet Avenger is the one gathering dust in my drydock while my Fleet Galaxy-R is living out all the adventures in STO. I found out that the Galaxy works better for me.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,499 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    I own fleet versions of both.

    Have you considered therapy for those masochistic tendencies?
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I have both as well. The Avenger will absolutely out damage the Galaxies like no tomorrow. However...the Avenger is the one chillin' out in my dock while I fly around in the GX. I have way more fun in the GX than the Avenger.
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  • greyhame3greyhame3 Member Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    IMO, the Avenger. I have the fleet version of both of these and when I flew them, the Avenger was more fun. Both currently sit in drydock while I use my fleet Sovereign.
  • seriousxenoseriousxeno Member Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Just to get this straight:

    Are you asking about the Galaxy RETROfit or REfit?

    Because if it is the refit as indicated in your post, don't bother unless you want the skin for later or want the console.
    The refit is tier 4. If you want an endgame capable ship, always look for the term retrofit. Its something that people constantly get wrong and its very confusing.

    If it is the retrofit you mean, then I really hate to say this but: Avenger.

    Personally I hate the look of it and despise its very existence. I frown every time I see one because it gets boring when 2-3 ships in your team are always the same ones. However, with that BOFF layout, I can't blame people too much. Galaxy, reboot or not, has been a major victim of power creep and the exploration variant has to be the second worst cruiser in the game (only the star cruiser is worse IMO). Of course you can make her work, but other than being tough, she can't do much without MAJOR expenses.

    Please consider the Excelsior, Ambassador and Sovereign Fleet versions though, those are very good ships too.
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  • embrosilembrosil Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I love my Galaxy Dreadnought. You can turn it into an escort by one click and you can have pets. Not to mention that phaser lance.
    And I simply hate Avenger. It may be a great ship stat wise, but it is incredibly ugly. Till the release of the Fed Dyson Destroyer, it was the most ugly ship in the Starfleet in my opinion.
    But I am not a DPS hunter, right now I do about 7k DPS in an elite STF. For me the aesthetics is much more important. Therefore I would recommend you to check the Excelsior and Assault cruiser refit as well. I have used these too on other toons and with my sci character, I managed to get close to 9k DPS with the assault refit.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I am a fan of the avenger. She's just a buzzsaw. Though the Gal-X is seeing some space time as well. Damn good ship.

    Though for my main character for the fed, he's a tac officer and rides an Avenger. Though once I get my science up and redo an engineering, Vesta for the sci and Gal-X for the Engineer.
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  • borgus1122borgus1122 Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Thanks all for opinion. About Excelsior - I have one and it's good ship, but I'd like to change ship - becouse I'm using it too long and got bored of it. About refit and retrofit I don't know which was released latest (Galaxy). I have problem to decide, becouse I made pros and cond of both classes adn both have same ammount of both. If only Avenger would look better, than the decision wouldn't be that difficult. For me it has look like it has been made of Lego's. So now I'm almost certain that my next ship will be Galaxy class.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borgus1122 wrote: »
    Thanks all for opinion. About Excelsior - I have one and it's good ship, but I'd like to change ship - becouse I'm using it too long and got bored of it. About refit and retrofit I don't know which was released latest (Galaxy). I have problem to decide, becouse I made pros and cond of both classes adn both have same ammount of both. If only Avenger would look better, than the decision wouldn't be that difficult. For me it has look like it has been made of Lego's. So now I'm almost certain that my next ship will be Galaxy class.

    Another ship to think about, is the Assault cruiser refit aka Regent. Good ship and hard hitter.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    Have you considered therapy for those masochistic tendencies?

    lol :D Owning fleet ships in STO is casual play, anyone that has played the game long enough has no issues with loads of EC, so buying Fleet Ship Modules off the exchnage is no big deal, really.

    Now, grinding Q's WW, the Grindaversary or the MU with more than 10 chars....now that's masochistic in book.
    I salute and give my condolences to anyone that took that road, may sanity still be with them. :D
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    talonxv wrote: »
    Another ship to think about, is the Assault cruiser refit aka Regent. Good ship and hard hitter.

    Oh, if that were on the table, I'd have recommended that one. I've flown an AC of some sort or another on this one character since I hit the first level cap in the first month. Right now he's got in his "ship selection" the original Assault Cruiser, a Mirror Assault Cruiser, a Mirror Star Cruiser made to look like his first original Assault Cruiser, the Reagent, and the Fleet Reagent. It's like a mini history of his career right there in dry dock.

    I have a thing for the assault cruiser. It's probably what kept me going through a lot of the game's low points.
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  • huntorhuntor Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Beauty aside...

    Avenger hands down.
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  • greyhame3greyhame3 Member Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    talonxv wrote: »
    Another ship to think about, is the Assault cruiser refit aka Regent. Good ship and hard hitter.
    I'd also recommend this if you're looking at another ship. It's a very fun ship to fly, more than the Avenger is for me.
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borgus1122 wrote: »
    Galaxy refited or Avenger class

    Is this some kind of joke?
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borgus1122 wrote: »
    Hi to all. I'm to buy a new ship. But can't made up my mind. So Must choose between Galaxy class refited and Avenger class. Now I need some opinions from you guys, which one is better? Tho, I don't like the looks of Avenger, but like the Galaxy class looks. But on the other hand, Avenger is as I think more powerfull.

    Even if you throw in the Galaxy-X with the Galaxy Retrofit and Fleet Galaxy (I lump them all as "Failaxy"), statistically, the Avenger / Fleet Avenger blows these travesties out of the water in terms of having a blend of survivability, handling, and firepower. Especially firepower.

    The only problem with the Avenger is that it looks absolutely terrible. The stats, BOFF layout, Console layout are all advantageous. BOFF layout is quite flexible, unlike the travesties called the Failaxy ship lineup. But the Avenger looks like ****.

    The only advantage the Failaxies have is that the skins are classic Star Trek icons. The Venture Skin in particular is wonderful. But "looks" are the only things that the Failaxies are good for.
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Just get the one you like. Easy as that. If you're getting the Gal-R, though, get the Bundle pack You get the Galaxy Refit and the Galaxy-X and get the Galaxy-R for free.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Just get the one you like. Easy as that. If you're getting the Gal-R, though, get the Bundle pack You get the Galaxy Refit and the Galaxy-X and get the Galaxy-R for free.

    Plus a free Galaxy bridge pack with the bundle.
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  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Easy, Avenger.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Could the OP have possibly picked two more different ships?
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Could the OP have possibly picked two more different ships?

    Well, there was a thread a few days ago where the OP on that one was trying to compare the Oddy vs. Kumari. At least the OP in this thread picked two cruisers. :P
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Really, after reading your post it comes down to a single question. Can you look at the Avenger all day long?

    If you can, get the Avenger. It is a better deal for twenty five bucks and doesn't need a special console's to be at it's best. It will hit harder, turn faster, use Cannons/Dual Beam Banks better, and has a better passive ship bonus(+10 Weapons and Engines). It's a Klingon Battle Cruiser in Federation Skin. Which isn't a bad thing. Klingon ships are fun. You can even equip a cloak on it if you ever get one.

    As for the Galaxy Line, if you like it and you want to use it just get it. Yes, it's not as good as the Avenger. The Galaxy X/Galaxy turns like a bus and the only way to have it at it's absolute best is to use a Galaxy X with the Antimatter Spread, Saucer Separation, and the cloak with a 4000 zen price tag. Your going to lose three console space's right away. While what you get from it isn't bad, its good actually, it's up to you to figure if it's worth the price. As it's been said, in the end it's an effective end-game ship.

    So, if you can standing looking at the Avenger for hour's it's the best one to get.

    If you like the look's of the Galaxy Line and that matter's more to you get Galaxy Bundle or Galaxy ship you like. It's a little more money to make the best Galaxy you can, but the Galaxy/Galaxy X line is fun all the same.


    The cloak does nothing you only need saucer sep and ams for the bonus.



    The avenger is definately easier to use. But depending on what youre doing the galaxy can out damage it. It just isnt easy.
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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    The cloak does nothing you only need saucer sep and ams for the bonus.



    The avenger is definately easier to use. But depending on what youre doing the galaxy can out damage it. It just isnt easy.

    Maybe if the guy running the Avenger was a moron.
  • onetontoadonetontoad Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Avenger is a very powerful ship. The standard version is not nice to look at but the fleet version is alright IMO anyway.Some people play the game for dps and stats while others play for looks and how flashy the special abilitys are not caring too much about the dps cap so Avenger is dps while galaxy refit is looks etc
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  • stuntpilotstuntpilot Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I own the Galaxy Bundle and the Avenger and enjoy them both for different reasons.

    The Avenger is an un-subtle, brutish warship that's very easy to play. Equipping it is uncomplicated. It's a pleasure to fly and fight with. Looks are subjective (I like it, Fleet version and C-Store), but if you hate the looks you might be grumpy when you fly it. It used to be my main ship on both Tac and Eng captains. Great blend of tank and damage.

    The Venture-X/Galaxy-X is actually more entertaining for me to fly simply because there's more "tricks" that I can employ. Separation trades tankiness for turnrate and a bit of extra damage, but I don't consider it a typical gimmick like VATA. It changes the ship far too much. The Phaser Spinal Lance is fun, but not the overpowered beast it was on screen. AoE version is often better. I do not equip the cloak unless I'm TRIBBLE around, but I do use the AMS for turn-rate bonus and getting some extra science power.

    The regular Galaxy-R is ... to be honest, it would be great if anything in the game needed an unkillable brick. I love the ship, but I never fly it because it's just not as fun as the Gal-X.

    All Galaxy ships suffer from a distinct lack of Tac BOff abilities, but the -X can still manage to surpass 30K. The Avenger has a great layout, but I get a little bored of it after using it for a few months.

    I like them both.
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