Ok so a fleet member and I worked together last night to get me to lvl 50 which took me 9 days to do. I have decided to get the Fleet Avenger and my character is tactical. My question is, what do all of you lvl 50 players do on a daily basis??
Right now I am working on getting fleet credits to purchase the Avenger and have Zen set aside for modules, but after that then what.
Im still very noob at this game and want to know what missions or events I need to be doing and looking for to help myself, and my Fleet out.
I know its a grind fest once you reach lvl 50 but I dont even know what to grind.
You can get top end gear and the like from it. You can work on your Fleet Holdings, or gather up Fleet gear to kit out your ships. If you want more story mode, you can look at the Foundry for player made missions.
There's a decent amount to do, just depends on what you like.
Ok so a fleet member and I worked together last night to get me to lvl 50 which took me 9 days to do. I have decided to get the Fleet Avenger and my character is tactical. My question is, what do all of you lvl 50 players do on a daily basis??
Right now I am working on getting fleet credits to purchase the Avenger and have Zen set aside for modules, but after that then what.
Im still very noob at this game and want to know what missions or events I need to be doing and looking for to help myself, and my Fleet out.
I know its a grind fest once you reach lvl 50 but I dont even know what to grind.
Thanks in advance.
Well I can remember when I hit my first lvl 50.
It was suggested to me to max out my reps aquire xyz consoles with the end goal of maxing my dps!.
At the time I had purchased the MVAE and decided that to be my ship of choice. After months of "grinding" I have fully maxed out my MVAE with fleet weaponary and all the goodies such as rom boffs and so on. After reaching that point tho I wasn't having fun TBH as maxing out my dps on an escort meant parking to my target and blowing it up.
I was feeling burnt out and I wasn't enjoying "THAT" type of playstyle.... So now what? I asked myself. Well I stripped my ship down back to phasers from AP to MK X from MK XII and started playing the game I wanted to play.
I started the Star Trek Battles channel, more info in my sig.
As much as it is a recruiting reply it's also to show you that you do what you want to do. Enjoy playing STO how YOU want to play it. If that's trying to have the absolute best Avenger out there go for it. Just do it on your time and do what feels right to you.
Congratulations on reaching level 50... now you can start learning to play the game without worrying about levels!
In all seriousness though, the levels in STO are far more about a gradual-yet-fast introduction of more things to use (more boff skills, doffs, passive skills, traits) than it is about being a progression of your character from a level 1 "beginning" to a level 50 "end".
I have nine toons, all of them level 50, most a couple of years old. I play a mission or a PvE with each a few times a week. Others have already said "what" (Foundry, PvE, Reputation, etc... even going in, doing the occasional old mission, helping a new player with a mission by teaming) so won't go into all of that, but just want to add the point that much of my enjoyment comes from constantly tweaking and updating skills and playstyle as I go (my latest self-improvement project: boff swaps in-scenario so I can go from healer to fighter without returning to a trainer).
I like to focus on survival primarily, without refitting ships or doing more than swapping boffs I already have. Each time something new is added, this means working out "how" to do it well (rather than presuming there's a bug or a problem or something's overpowered). Plus, I also like to have each toon have its own "specialization"... my Gorn toon is a shield-stripping, crew-disabling, systems-damaging specialist: even large Voth vessels come to a standstill and lose their shields with him.
The point is, the game is almost a blank canvas and players get out of it as much (or as little) as they're prepared to invest of themselves. There is plenty of "stuff" to do on there, all you need to do is to explore your options, decide what you want STO for, and set course for it!
Thanks all for your replies, I guess I will be taking some advice from some of my fleet members and adding that to this mix. Im not a PvP'er at all, hence the reason Im here. BF4 and Titanfall have done a number on me.
Ok so a fleet member and I worked together last night to get me to lvl 50 which took me 9 days to do.
Sad how easy it is, isn't it?
All you have to look forward to now is GRIND.
You obviously didn't stop to savor the leveling process. I don't suggest creating alts.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
I simply do whatever the hell I feel like doing. I play for fun and I do not bother comparing my ship / crew abilities to other players. What I do at level 50:
- I decided to return to playing the main story missions which I have basically abandoned after playing less than 2 weeks. I am still in the Klingon War story arc of the game. I do one or two main story mission per day. I played "What's Old Is New" multiple times so that I can outfit my Sovereign class heavy cruiser (a.k.a Assault Cruiser) with a full set of retro phasers.
- Play lots of Duty Officer (Doff) missions. Get better quality Doffs through the missions or directly purchasing from the Exchange. Expand Doff slots; you start with 100, but after that you need to spend Zen to buy additional slots. I currently have 200 slots and I will probably buy another 100 in a week or two.
- Play the various PvE missions available for fun, dilithium, special loot used to get better equipment and earn different types of marks. Only elite missions give you special loot like the Borg Neural Processors (BNP) which can ultimately be used to get better gear.
- If you have not done so yet, you can mine for dilithium. Since you are part of a fleet it should be easier for you to get 8000 dilithium ores per day compared to someone who is not. I am not part of a fleet.
- Work on combat tactics. By this I not relying simply on DPS (damage per second) but actual tactics that use can use to defeat enemies. For example, in those "Enemy Signal Zone" I can take out a Tal'Shiar Flagship and it's 5 or 6 heavy Warbird escorts by myself only using retro Phaser Beam Arrays Mk XI and two quantum torpedo launchers (fore / aft).
My personal things to do (may or may not happen):
- Learn the reputation system. I have played many of the PvE missions which rewards various marks, however, I have not bothered learning the reputation system yet. This is not a priority for me since I am not focused on trying to get the best equipment possible. Like I said before, I play for fun.
- Perhaps eventually join a fleet for fleet ship and equipment. Probably a small / mid size fleet that has not progressed very far so that I can assist with various fleet projects to increase tier levels.
I have compared some level 50 ships to the free Sovereign class starship (Assualt Cruiser) I got at level 40, and I have to say that I don't really find them to be that appealing for the price you pay. Level 50 ships generally cost 2,500 Zen which works out to $25 USD if you want instant gratification or 320,000 refined dilithium (assuming 128 crystals = 1 Zen) if you do not want to spend "real money". Or a combination of the two.
Specifically, I have looked at the Odyssey, Regent (Assault Cruiser Refit) and the Avenger. Each has it's own strengths and weakness, but none of them seems to be worth the 2500 price tag over the free ship. Maybe I will change my mind if there is a 20% - 25% discount sale...
Ok so a fleet member and I worked together last night to get me to lvl 50 which took me 9 days to do. I have decided to get the Fleet Avenger and my character is tactical. My question is, what do all of you lvl 50 players do on a daily basis??
Right now I am working on getting fleet credits to purchase the Avenger and have Zen set aside for modules, but after that then what.
Im still very noob at this game and want to know what missions or events I need to be doing and looking for to help myself, and my Fleet out.
I know its a grind fest once you reach lvl 50 but I dont even know what to grind.
Thanks in advance.
As others have pointed out, reputation time. You will want to get a some of the toys the reputation system to enhance your ship, survivability and such, the Omega Deflector, Assimilated Subtranswarp engine, along with the Borg Cutting Beam, and Assimilated Module are the usual must haves from the Omega Rep system, they have great set bonuses.
Then there are also the passives you select from achieving tiers from the Rep systems. Also, it's time to research a good build for your Fleet Avenger. I presume you are Tactical, which makes the Fleet Avenger a good pick. A nicely built Fleet Avenger can solo Borg Cubes in Elite STFs, with very little trouble.
It's also time to pick up Fleet gear. Weapons, modules, and shields. You might want to also pick up two male Tactical Romulan Bridge Officers from the Embassy. The one with Superior Romulan Operative. They give you bonus crit chance and crit damage.
Maybe down the road, you might consider a PvP build if that sort of thing floats your boat.
Ok so a fleet member and I worked together last night to get me to lvl 50 which took me 9 days to do. I have decided to get the Fleet Avenger and my character is tactical. My question is, what do all of you lvl 50 players do on a daily basis??
Right now I am working on getting fleet credits to purchase the Avenger and have Zen set aside for modules, but after that then what.
Im still very noob at this game and want to know what missions or events I need to be doing and looking for to help myself, and my Fleet out.
I know its a grind fest once you reach lvl 50 but I dont even know what to grind.
Thanks in advance.
Short on time, didn't read the thread, sorry about that.
First off, relax! It is a journey, even at end game.
Avenger will suit you good. Need to start somewhere. You don't even know what you like yet. She is a nice ride.
You need to grind... EVERYTHING! But its not as gloomy as it seems! The "grind" in STO is light. You can tell when STO is a players first MMO because they complain about how grindy it is :P Trust me, I've never been in a game where the grinding is as good as it is here.
I recommend Omega rep first. Best gear comes from there for the most part. Borg 12, MACO/Adapted/Omega for ground, cutting beam, assimilated module... pure win, and it goes fast if you farm STF.
Dyson rep goes fast, but other then the torpedo, I found essentially useless, as I already had better gear.
Romulan stuff is ok if you are going plasma, elsewise you are only after the powers (no hangar, you don't need elite scorps). That said, they are some nice powers.
Nukara sucks. I hate grinding it. I'd wait on it, it should be easier when the season 9 rep changes go thru. Powers are good, again, but if they are going to make it easier, take it. I hated doing it on my main, still haven't on my alt.
What you really want, tho, is fleet credit. Tons and tons of fleet credit for fleet weapons and consoles. Get as many of them as often as you can.
Dil... It's nice... get it where you can... normal playing can cap you accidentally tho, and I found... Turning the game into a job that pays less than a sweat shop was not worth it to me. I horde dil where I can... but I just buy what I want now... ~$.60 per character per day is just not paying the bills hehe...
I once again match my character. Behold the power of PINK!
Wow, great posts guys. This is what I needed for all of this to make sense. I did manage to get my Fleet Avenger and I love it. Did the Mirror last night and it raged with 4 DHC's and a Doomsday torpedo out front, it also hold ups pretty well to. Its wierd how you can get emotionally attached to a silly machine in a video game. Im sure there will be other ships I try out but for now, Im in love with the Fleet Avenger.
Mainly right now I'm helping other members lvl their characters and I try to get some PvE's in once or twice a night. I didnt realize the quality of loot you can buy from the Fleet..like Ultra Rare Weapons...holy TRIBBLE my mouth is watering.
Basically do whatever you want. Take your time to look over what gear you may or may not want. Or be like me and get it all so you can play with it. But as far as missions/rep/PvP/PvE, yea basically have fun. Half the time I just fly around sector space looking for Red Alerts lol
As for the Fleet Avenger.... you think you love it now. Give it a month. You won't want anything else. :P
It was suggested to me to max out my reps aquire xyz consoles with the end goal of maxing my dps!.
At the time I had purchased the MVAE and decided that to be my ship of choice. After months of "grinding" I have fully maxed out my MVAE with fleet weaponary and all the goodies such as rom boffs and so on. After reaching that point tho I wasn't having fun TBH as maxing out my dps on an escort meant parking to my target and blowing it up.
I was feeling burnt out and I wasn't enjoying "THAT" type of playstyle.... So now what? I asked myself. Well I stripped my ship down back to phasers from AP to MK X from MK XII and started playing the game I wanted to play.
I started the Star Trek Battles channel, more info in my sig.
As much as it is a recruiting reply it's also to show you that you do what you want to do. Enjoy playing STO how YOU want to play it. If that's trying to have the absolute best Avenger out there go for it. Just do it on your time and do what feels right to you.
Almost what i did. Got rid of the rep.gear and i'm having fun just playing and not worrying about the rep.system. All my friends that i started the game with at release all quit because the rep.gear made the game to easy and boring for them. The only real challenge with rep.gear is in pvp against other players that are all tricked out with rep.gear.
The best advice so far, just do what you want and have fun. It's the way I roll when I log on. If you want to run a single Fleet Action a night do so. If you want to just skip all the grind and play in the foundry mission's do that. It's a never ending game anyway.
Don't; especially don't, buy into the DPS race and the perfect build. That is the shortest way to making this game the least fun as possible. I did the DPS crazy thing with my second character and ended up hating her so much I deleted the character in the end. Just find a build you like or better yet think of one of your own and enjoy it. Nothing wrong with asking for help, but while the build may work for them it may not work for you.
You already have a fleet ship, but just from my experience, the fed side Zen/C Store ship's aren't worth the money you spend on them. If you ever want another ship stick with the fleet ones. I own four store ships and they all sit in dry dock while I use a Heavy Cruiser Retrofit with none of there special console's. Honestly, I wish I could have my 100 dollars back
When it comes to the rep system; yes, the Borg rep has the best gear. However, it isn't any fun to get through. To even get the mark's in a decent amount you have to do Borg Fleet Action's which are in no way any fun or forgiving to someone just starting the Fleet Action part of the game.
The Romulan/Dyson/Nukara rep's are easier to get marks for without hours of painful investment.
The easier Fleet Queue's that have a choice of marks can even allow you to choose Romulan/Nukara marks depending on which one you do. It will also have the added bonus of easing you into Fleet Action's instead of throwing you into the deep end. Plus, early on the passive's have more use than the gear. If your lucky the Romulan Daily Patrol will even net you some good stuff to sell for EC and better gear.
Otherwise, have fun and don't worry about anything.
Note: Can't say I blame you for loving your ship. I love my Heavy Cruiser Retrofit as well. The only thing that is going to replace it is the Fleet version once I have the dil.
Thanks for all the suggestions fella's. I have gotten several clan members into playing this game and am at this point just helping them level their characters to 50. I am slowly working on the Omega rep but still trying to figure out the D'off system. Im not really sure what I should be trying to do.
Thanks for all the suggestions fella's. I have gotten several clan members into playing this game and am at this point just helping them level their characters to 50. I am slowly working on the Omega rep but still trying to figure out the D'off system. Im not really sure what I should be trying to do.
There is no should be. That may be your problem.
What do YOU want to DO?
Now, a lot of people answer that with some form of "be awesome at space combat" -- whether that is for pvp or pve or just for the fun of tinkering, or to face challenges like soloing the no win scenario or whatever else.
If that is your answer, pick a ship. Set up officers to make it strong. Gear it out. Fly it and have fun. Then mess with it, how could it be even better? Now you have learned a lot, what can you do with a different type of ship? Pick something weak, can you keep it alive? Pick something tough, can you make it do enough dps? Pick something slow, can you learn to drive it?
The duty officer system is pretty simple to understand. You need to know just a few of things, really...
- you send these guys off to do things for you, they bring back rewards.
- these missions level up your mission categories, allowing you a few free officers and some other rewards.
- these officers can enhance your ship and ground combat/build. Choosing and buying the best active officers is a big deal for a build.
- the missions are randomized within a zone, but you have to go to the zone where the mission can be found if you want it.... so if I want to beat up ferengi freighters, I have to go to romulan tau dewa sector; if I want to sell the ferengis to a slaver, I have to go back to klingon space, and so on. There are all sorts of special missions including some from inside your ship, from specific NPCs scattered across the universe, or pop-ups like in dyson sphere. Completing some of the chains of missions give unique rewards -- sometimes officers or rare items.
- it should have been obvious but, when choosing officers to do an assignment, you should try to match as many green qualities as possible and have NO red qualities. Also, purple officers do far better than blue which do far better than green which are better than white. Quality is huge.
- One important mission for someone starting out is to recruit more bridge officers. You can use these to train rare skills or replace lower quality officers. Some are worth a lot of money, most are not.
Now, a lot of people answer that with some form of "be awesome at space combat" -- whether that is for pvp or pve or just for the fun of tinkering, or to face challenges like soloing the no win scenario or whatever else.
If that is your answer, pick a ship. Set up officers to make it strong. Gear it out. Fly it and have fun. Then mess with it, how could it be even better? Now you have learned a lot, what can you do with a different type of ship? Pick something weak, can you keep it alive? Pick something tough, can you make it do enough dps? Pick something slow, can you learn to drive it?
The duty officer system is pretty simple to understand. You need to know just a few of things, really...
- you send these guys off to do things for you, they bring back rewards.
- these missions level up your mission categories, allowing you a few free officers and some other rewards.
- these officers can enhance your ship and ground combat/build. Choosing and buying the best active officers is a big deal for a build.
- the missions are randomized within a zone, but you have to go to the zone where the mission can be found if you want it.... so if I want to beat up ferengi freighters, I have to go to romulan tau dewa sector; if I want to sell the ferengis to a slaver, I have to go back to klingon space, and so on. There are all sorts of special missions including some from inside your ship, from specific NPCs scattered across the universe, or pop-ups like in dyson sphere. Completing some of the chains of missions give unique rewards -- sometimes officers or rare items.
- it should have been obvious but, when choosing officers to do an assignment, you should try to match as many green qualities as possible and have NO red qualities. Also, purple officers do far better than blue which do far better than green which are better than white. Quality is huge.
- One important mission for someone starting out is to recruit more bridge officers. You can use these to train rare skills or replace lower quality officers. Some are worth a lot of money, most are not.
Thanks for that. Well Ive finally figured out that PvE is my thing. Its less hectic for a more casual and strategic player like myself. PvP dosent interest me one bit. Also Space warfare is wear its at for me as well. Cant stand walking all over the universe on foot, of course since I leveled so fast I still have lvl 38 and up episodes to complete and they almost all have some type of ground combat going on. I want to be stong on the ground but want to be even stronger in Space since I do alot of Space STF's like Into the Hive Elite with my Fleeties.
I have just reached 49 myself and will be 50 by tonight and trying to figure out what Zen Store tier 5 ship I want to buy to carry me forward int o the end game. However for some stupid reason they have me locked out of the forums because I waited until 49 to actually come here to post and ask questions.
That being the case, anyone have a clue when this stupid forum will allow me to actual start a post so I can ask my special questions/advice? I think it has been 3 days now and I still get the silly message stating, "After a certain amount of time has passed since your registration day, you will be able to create new threads in forums that allow it" This is so stupid it isn't even funny. Should be tied to your toons level, not how long ago you registered. No way in hell a player with a level 49, level 38 and a level 17 toon should have to wait to actually use the forum <rant off> hehe.
Still anyone know how long till I can create my own thread?
For whatever reason it took around a month from the time I registered in the forum to when I could actually start my own thread. Not sure if that was due to a bug of some sort or waiting 29+ days is the standard rule.
As for which ship to buy at level 50... I suppose that depends on which faction you are playing... and what type of captain you are
My Fed toon is an engineer and currently flies the T5 Sovereign class heavy cruiser which is more or less the best free starship. I compared to many of Vice Admiral T5 ships and I have to say that spending 2500 Zen for a ship beyond the Sovereign is not really worth it because the differences are very small.
On the other hand, for my KDF toon, I will likely buy a Lieutenant General (same rank as Vice Admiral) T5 starship because the ship I am looking at (the Mogh) is very different from the Bird of Prey that I typically fly. Actually, even though I am level 50, I am still flying the T4 Ki'Tang BoP I picked when I reached captain. My free T5 ship will be the Hegh'ta Heavy BoP.
As for which ship to buy at level 50... I suppose that depends on which faction you are playing... and what type of captain you are
My Fed toon is an engineer and currently flies the T5 Sovereign class heavy cruiser which is more or less the best free starship. I compared to many of Vice Admiral T5 ships and I have to say that spending 2500 Zen for a ship beyond the Sovereign is not really worth it because the differences are very small.
On the other hand, for my KDF toon, I will likely buy a Lieutenant General (same rank as Vice Admiral) T5 starship because the ship I am looking at (the Mogh) is very different from the Bird of Prey that I typically fly. Actually, even though I am level 50, I am still flying the T4 Ki'Tang BoP I picked when I reached captain. My free T5 ship will be the Hegh'ta Heavy BoP.
I have a Rom Tac and a Fed Eng. The Rom is 49 and the Fed is like 35 (be at 50 in a week or so, so I can wait for him to get there if he ends up my main).
Anyway as a treat to myself I decided I wanted to buy myself a good Zen ship and spend around maybe $25.
My indecision is because I love the speed and manuverablity of a Escort but hate how fragile they are and love the durability of a Cruiser but can't stand the turn rate hehe. I am trying to find something in the middle. Good turn, Good firepower, Good durability. Good at everything, great at nothing kind of ship I guess hehe.
A Scimitar comes to mind but with only a 7 turn it is a little slow. Get up to 9 turn IF I spend the $50 for all three and use at least two of the modules but I really didn't want to spend $50 unless someone can convince me otherwise. Mogai Hvy Warbird refit I have read might work IF I spend the extra $10 to get the module from the Valador but that ship doesn't seem popular. I also like the idea around the Ar'Kif Tactical Carrier but I think that I might find it too squishy and be disappointed (seems like it needs MKVII stuff to really shine from what I have read). Then I have considered a Dyson Destroyer but again like the Ar'Kif I am thinking it will kind of suck with just MK X Blue gear until I can earn the better sets.
For the Federation side, the Avenger Battlecruiser looks like it might fit the bill with fairly good manuverability, firepower and durability. Considered a Odyssey Operations as well since I can seperate the Chevron and get good turn but then again if I do that it seems like it might just turn out to be a weak escort and be better off just going escort in the first place. Lastly the Assault Cruiser Refit looks ok and offers that wide angle torp launcher which makes up for a 7 turn. Also unlike the Romulan Cruisers, the Fed Cruisers have strategic manuvering available to them for a neat little +3 to turn.
Anyway, not sure what to get. The Scimitar would be a slam dunk but it just seems like to get the most out of this ship, you have to get all three for the module set and $50 is a bit pricy.
Ok so a fleet member and I worked together last night to get me to lvl 50 which took me 9 days to do. I have decided to get the Fleet Avenger and my character is tactical. My question is, what do all of you lvl 50 players do on a daily basis??
Right now I am working on getting fleet credits to purchase the Avenger and have Zen set aside for modules, but after that then what.
Im still very noob at this game and want to know what missions or events I need to be doing and looking for to help myself, and my Fleet out.
I know its a grind fest once you reach lvl 50 but I dont even know what to grind.
Thanks in advance.
well first DONT start whit reputation! you will have enough time to do that later, now give your self a pleasure to try every possible pve quest in the game (ground and space), try every daily that is available to you, play around whit duty officers and send them to mission, you will be pleasantly surprised what they can get you in a short time. then when you tried everything start your reputation missions.
believe me, reputation gives you some great rewords, but it is much better to get the know this game to as much detail as you can, as you will do rep. much easier later on, than just to jump in head first.
and find your self an active fleet that is actually active on teamspeak so they can advise you in future and help you whit the dilitium grind.
remember to have fun first as this is a game . pvp is not so much competitive in this game, and the game is more social coop that any thing ells, mingle .
p.s. do not spend **** load of money, dill, or ec on ships before you actually know what you wont, very important.
My indecision is because I love the speed and manuverablity of a Escort but hate how fragile they are and love the durability of a Cruiser but can't stand the turn rate hehe. I am trying to find something in the middle. Good turn, Good firepower, Good durability. Good at everything, great at nothing kind of ship I guess hehe.
Well I can't make any recommendations on the Romulan end since I don't have such a character yet and have not really looked at any of their ships.
As for Fed, the Avenger is likely the best balance between firepower, durability and maneuverability. With 5 forward weapon slots you definitely have good forward firepower, but that is offset by only 3 aft weapon slots. It comes with a Lt. Cmdr tactical station which is pretty good. The Cmdr engineering station means that you still have decent options for survivability. It does have lower hull points than a Sovereign, but I think it is a good trade off for better maneuverability.
While it is nice that it can use a cloaking device, you need to buy the Defiant (Tactical Escort Retrofit) for 2,000 Zen to get that console.
The Klingons have a pretty good ship that balances firepower, durability and maneuverability. It is the free T5 ship that you can select; the Qin Heavy Raptor. The Fed doesn't really have anything that is similar to the Qin.
The Klingons have a pretty good ship that balances firepower, durability and maneuverability. It is the free T5 ship that you can select; the Qin Heavy Raptor. The Fed doesn't really have anything that is similar to the Qin.
However, that is for if and when you decide to play the KDF faction.
Not really getting into the Klingon's for some reason and my Klingon Toon is only 17 but yeah I like the Mogh option for them. Maybe at some point.
Really leaning toward the Scimitar but the more I read about them, the more it looks like they need the 3 set bonus to make them good, at least early on. At $50 for the bundle though, it is kind of pricey. Also since all three are so similar, I kind of feel like I would be spending $25 extra just for two consoles that I will probably replace at some point. Also I could get two very diverse ships for that price, prehaps one each for my Rom and Fed toon though I kind of want to focus on one or the other.
They don't make these sort of decisions easy do they? Well unless you have unlimited money that is hehe.
Really leaning toward the Scimitar but the more I read about them, the more it looks like they need the 3 set bonus to make them good, at least early on.
You dont need anything more than the ship. Thats the reason scimitars are so wanted, because they are the best offensive ship in the game even without consoles or anything. If you add the set console, well, its even better. I dont like the scimitars because they are too too too big. And because i saw so many of em in the game, that i lost all my interest in em since ages ago. And because they are straight forward and you dont need almost any skill to make em hurt. I prefer something more challenging and interesting, like the Mogh, or of course a fleet BoP (my must have adquisition in a future). But i dont want to see the scimitar (or the tulward or falchion, whatever) anymore lol.
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Now you can begin on the Reputation system.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Reputation_System
You can get top end gear and the like from it. You can work on your Fleet Holdings, or gather up Fleet gear to kit out your ships. If you want more story mode, you can look at the Foundry for player made missions.
There's a decent amount to do, just depends on what you like.
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Well I can remember when I hit my first lvl 50.
It was suggested to me to max out my reps aquire xyz consoles with the end goal of maxing my dps!.
At the time I had purchased the MVAE and decided that to be my ship of choice. After months of "grinding" I have fully maxed out my MVAE with fleet weaponary and all the goodies such as rom boffs and so on. After reaching that point tho I wasn't having fun TBH as maxing out my dps on an escort meant parking to my target and blowing it up.
I was feeling burnt out and I wasn't enjoying "THAT" type of playstyle.... So now what? I asked myself. Well I stripped my ship down back to phasers from AP to MK X from MK XII and started playing the game I wanted to play.
I started the Star Trek Battles channel, more info in my sig.
As much as it is a recruiting reply it's also to show you that you do what you want to do. Enjoy playing STO how YOU want to play it. If that's trying to have the absolute best Avenger out there go for it. Just do it on your time and do what feels right to you.
Special events
Doff assignments
Feed fleet holdings
Foundry
PvP
Work on new/different ship builds
In all seriousness though, the levels in STO are far more about a gradual-yet-fast introduction of more things to use (more boff skills, doffs, passive skills, traits) than it is about being a progression of your character from a level 1 "beginning" to a level 50 "end".
I have nine toons, all of them level 50, most a couple of years old. I play a mission or a PvE with each a few times a week. Others have already said "what" (Foundry, PvE, Reputation, etc... even going in, doing the occasional old mission, helping a new player with a mission by teaming) so won't go into all of that, but just want to add the point that much of my enjoyment comes from constantly tweaking and updating skills and playstyle as I go (my latest self-improvement project: boff swaps in-scenario so I can go from healer to fighter without returning to a trainer).
I like to focus on survival primarily, without refitting ships or doing more than swapping boffs I already have. Each time something new is added, this means working out "how" to do it well (rather than presuming there's a bug or a problem or something's overpowered). Plus, I also like to have each toon have its own "specialization"... my Gorn toon is a shield-stripping, crew-disabling, systems-damaging specialist: even large Voth vessels come to a standstill and lose their shields with him.
The point is, the game is almost a blank canvas and players get out of it as much (or as little) as they're prepared to invest of themselves. There is plenty of "stuff" to do on there, all you need to do is to explore your options, decide what you want STO for, and set course for it!
Thanks again everyone!!
The same thing we do every night, Pinky... try to take over the world!
Sad how easy it is, isn't it?
All you have to look forward to now is GRIND.
You obviously didn't stop to savor the leveling process. I don't suggest creating alts.
I simply do whatever the hell I feel like doing. I play for fun and I do not bother comparing my ship / crew abilities to other players. What I do at level 50:
- I decided to return to playing the main story missions which I have basically abandoned after playing less than 2 weeks. I am still in the Klingon War story arc of the game. I do one or two main story mission per day. I played "What's Old Is New" multiple times so that I can outfit my Sovereign class heavy cruiser (a.k.a Assault Cruiser) with a full set of retro phasers.
- Play lots of Duty Officer (Doff) missions. Get better quality Doffs through the missions or directly purchasing from the Exchange. Expand Doff slots; you start with 100, but after that you need to spend Zen to buy additional slots. I currently have 200 slots and I will probably buy another 100 in a week or two.
- Play the various PvE missions available for fun, dilithium, special loot used to get better equipment and earn different types of marks. Only elite missions give you special loot like the Borg Neural Processors (BNP) which can ultimately be used to get better gear.
- If you have not done so yet, you can mine for dilithium. Since you are part of a fleet it should be easier for you to get 8000 dilithium ores per day compared to someone who is not. I am not part of a fleet.
- Work on combat tactics. By this I not relying simply on DPS (damage per second) but actual tactics that use can use to defeat enemies. For example, in those "Enemy Signal Zone" I can take out a Tal'Shiar Flagship and it's 5 or 6 heavy Warbird escorts by myself only using retro Phaser Beam Arrays Mk XI and two quantum torpedo launchers (fore / aft).
My personal things to do (may or may not happen):
- Learn the reputation system. I have played many of the PvE missions which rewards various marks, however, I have not bothered learning the reputation system yet. This is not a priority for me since I am not focused on trying to get the best equipment possible. Like I said before, I play for fun.
- Perhaps eventually join a fleet for fleet ship and equipment. Probably a small / mid size fleet that has not progressed very far so that I can assist with various fleet projects to increase tier levels.
Specifically, I have looked at the Odyssey, Regent (Assault Cruiser Refit) and the Avenger. Each has it's own strengths and weakness, but none of them seems to be worth the 2500 price tag over the free ship. Maybe I will change my mind if there is a 20% - 25% discount sale...
As others have pointed out, reputation time. You will want to get a some of the toys the reputation system to enhance your ship, survivability and such, the Omega Deflector, Assimilated Subtranswarp engine, along with the Borg Cutting Beam, and Assimilated Module are the usual must haves from the Omega Rep system, they have great set bonuses.
Then there are also the passives you select from achieving tiers from the Rep systems. Also, it's time to research a good build for your Fleet Avenger. I presume you are Tactical, which makes the Fleet Avenger a good pick. A nicely built Fleet Avenger can solo Borg Cubes in Elite STFs, with very little trouble.
It's also time to pick up Fleet gear. Weapons, modules, and shields. You might want to also pick up two male Tactical Romulan Bridge Officers from the Embassy. The one with Superior Romulan Operative. They give you bonus crit chance and crit damage.
Maybe down the road, you might consider a PvP build if that sort of thing floats your boat.
Good luck!
Short on time, didn't read the thread, sorry about that.
First off, relax! It is a journey, even at end game.
Avenger will suit you good. Need to start somewhere. You don't even know what you like yet. She is a nice ride.
You need to grind... EVERYTHING! But its not as gloomy as it seems! The "grind" in STO is light. You can tell when STO is a players first MMO because they complain about how grindy it is :P Trust me, I've never been in a game where the grinding is as good as it is here.
I recommend Omega rep first. Best gear comes from there for the most part. Borg 12, MACO/Adapted/Omega for ground, cutting beam, assimilated module... pure win, and it goes fast if you farm STF.
Dyson rep goes fast, but other then the torpedo, I found essentially useless, as I already had better gear.
Romulan stuff is ok if you are going plasma, elsewise you are only after the powers (no hangar, you don't need elite scorps). That said, they are some nice powers.
Nukara sucks. I hate grinding it. I'd wait on it, it should be easier when the season 9 rep changes go thru. Powers are good, again, but if they are going to make it easier, take it. I hated doing it on my main, still haven't on my alt.
What you really want, tho, is fleet credit. Tons and tons of fleet credit for fleet weapons and consoles. Get as many of them as often as you can.
Dil... It's nice... get it where you can... normal playing can cap you accidentally tho, and I found... Turning the game into a job that pays less than a sweat shop was not worth it to me. I horde dil where I can... but I just buy what I want now... ~$.60 per character per day is just not paying the bills hehe...
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Mainly right now I'm helping other members lvl their characters and I try to get some PvE's in once or twice a night. I didnt realize the quality of loot you can buy from the Fleet..like Ultra Rare Weapons...holy TRIBBLE my mouth is watering.
As for the Fleet Avenger.... you think you love it now. Give it a month. You won't want anything else. :P
Almost what i did. Got rid of the rep.gear and i'm having fun just playing and not worrying about the rep.system. All my friends that i started the game with at release all quit because the rep.gear made the game to easy and boring for them. The only real challenge with rep.gear is in pvp against other players that are all tricked out with rep.gear.
Don't; especially don't, buy into the DPS race and the perfect build. That is the shortest way to making this game the least fun as possible. I did the DPS crazy thing with my second character and ended up hating her so much I deleted the character in the end. Just find a build you like or better yet think of one of your own and enjoy it. Nothing wrong with asking for help, but while the build may work for them it may not work for you.
You already have a fleet ship, but just from my experience, the fed side Zen/C Store ship's aren't worth the money you spend on them. If you ever want another ship stick with the fleet ones. I own four store ships and they all sit in dry dock while I use a Heavy Cruiser Retrofit with none of there special console's. Honestly, I wish I could have my 100 dollars back
When it comes to the rep system; yes, the Borg rep has the best gear. However, it isn't any fun to get through. To even get the mark's in a decent amount you have to do Borg Fleet Action's which are in no way any fun or forgiving to someone just starting the Fleet Action part of the game.
The Romulan/Dyson/Nukara rep's are easier to get marks for without hours of painful investment.
The easier Fleet Queue's that have a choice of marks can even allow you to choose Romulan/Nukara marks depending on which one you do. It will also have the added bonus of easing you into Fleet Action's instead of throwing you into the deep end. Plus, early on the passive's have more use than the gear. If your lucky the Romulan Daily Patrol will even net you some good stuff to sell for EC and better gear.
Otherwise, have fun and don't worry about anything.
Note: Can't say I blame you for loving your ship. I love my Heavy Cruiser Retrofit as well. The only thing that is going to replace it is the Fleet version once I have the dil.
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There is no should be. That may be your problem.
What do YOU want to DO?
Now, a lot of people answer that with some form of "be awesome at space combat" -- whether that is for pvp or pve or just for the fun of tinkering, or to face challenges like soloing the no win scenario or whatever else.
If that is your answer, pick a ship. Set up officers to make it strong. Gear it out. Fly it and have fun. Then mess with it, how could it be even better? Now you have learned a lot, what can you do with a different type of ship? Pick something weak, can you keep it alive? Pick something tough, can you make it do enough dps? Pick something slow, can you learn to drive it?
The duty officer system is pretty simple to understand. You need to know just a few of things, really...
- you send these guys off to do things for you, they bring back rewards.
- these missions level up your mission categories, allowing you a few free officers and some other rewards.
- these officers can enhance your ship and ground combat/build. Choosing and buying the best active officers is a big deal for a build.
- the missions are randomized within a zone, but you have to go to the zone where the mission can be found if you want it.... so if I want to beat up ferengi freighters, I have to go to romulan tau dewa sector; if I want to sell the ferengis to a slaver, I have to go back to klingon space, and so on. There are all sorts of special missions including some from inside your ship, from specific NPCs scattered across the universe, or pop-ups like in dyson sphere. Completing some of the chains of missions give unique rewards -- sometimes officers or rare items.
- it should have been obvious but, when choosing officers to do an assignment, you should try to match as many green qualities as possible and have NO red qualities. Also, purple officers do far better than blue which do far better than green which are better than white. Quality is huge.
- One important mission for someone starting out is to recruit more bridge officers. You can use these to train rare skills or replace lower quality officers. Some are worth a lot of money, most are not.
Thanks for that. Well Ive finally figured out that PvE is my thing. Its less hectic for a more casual and strategic player like myself. PvP dosent interest me one bit. Also Space warfare is wear its at for me as well. Cant stand walking all over the universe on foot, of course since I leveled so fast I still have lvl 38 and up episodes to complete and they almost all have some type of ground combat going on. I want to be stong on the ground but want to be even stronger in Space since I do alot of Space STF's like Into the Hive Elite with my Fleeties.
That being the case, anyone have a clue when this stupid forum will allow me to actual start a post so I can ask my special questions/advice? I think it has been 3 days now and I still get the silly message stating, "After a certain amount of time has passed since your registration day, you will be able to create new threads in forums that allow it" This is so stupid it isn't even funny. Should be tied to your toons level, not how long ago you registered. No way in hell a player with a level 49, level 38 and a level 17 toon should have to wait to actually use the forum <rant off> hehe.
Still anyone know how long till I can create my own thread?
My Fed toon is an engineer and currently flies the T5 Sovereign class heavy cruiser which is more or less the best free starship. I compared to many of Vice Admiral T5 ships and I have to say that spending 2500 Zen for a ship beyond the Sovereign is not really worth it because the differences are very small.
On the other hand, for my KDF toon, I will likely buy a Lieutenant General (same rank as Vice Admiral) T5 starship because the ship I am looking at (the Mogh) is very different from the Bird of Prey that I typically fly. Actually, even though I am level 50, I am still flying the T4 Ki'Tang BoP I picked when I reached captain. My free T5 ship will be the Hegh'ta Heavy BoP.
I have a Rom Tac and a Fed Eng. The Rom is 49 and the Fed is like 35 (be at 50 in a week or so, so I can wait for him to get there if he ends up my main).
Anyway as a treat to myself I decided I wanted to buy myself a good Zen ship and spend around maybe $25.
My indecision is because I love the speed and manuverablity of a Escort but hate how fragile they are and love the durability of a Cruiser but can't stand the turn rate hehe. I am trying to find something in the middle. Good turn, Good firepower, Good durability. Good at everything, great at nothing kind of ship I guess hehe.
A Scimitar comes to mind but with only a 7 turn it is a little slow. Get up to 9 turn IF I spend the $50 for all three and use at least two of the modules but I really didn't want to spend $50 unless someone can convince me otherwise. Mogai Hvy Warbird refit I have read might work IF I spend the extra $10 to get the module from the Valador but that ship doesn't seem popular. I also like the idea around the Ar'Kif Tactical Carrier but I think that I might find it too squishy and be disappointed (seems like it needs MKVII stuff to really shine from what I have read). Then I have considered a Dyson Destroyer but again like the Ar'Kif I am thinking it will kind of suck with just MK X Blue gear until I can earn the better sets.
For the Federation side, the Avenger Battlecruiser looks like it might fit the bill with fairly good manuverability, firepower and durability. Considered a Odyssey Operations as well since I can seperate the Chevron and get good turn but then again if I do that it seems like it might just turn out to be a weak escort and be better off just going escort in the first place. Lastly the Assault Cruiser Refit looks ok and offers that wide angle torp launcher which makes up for a 7 turn. Also unlike the Romulan Cruisers, the Fed Cruisers have strategic manuvering available to them for a neat little +3 to turn.
Anyway, not sure what to get. The Scimitar would be a slam dunk but it just seems like to get the most out of this ship, you have to get all three for the module set and $50 is a bit pricy.
well first DONT start whit reputation! you will have enough time to do that later, now give your self a pleasure to try every possible pve quest in the game (ground and space), try every daily that is available to you, play around whit duty officers and send them to mission, you will be pleasantly surprised what they can get you in a short time. then when you tried everything start your reputation missions.
believe me, reputation gives you some great rewords, but it is much better to get the know this game to as much detail as you can, as you will do rep. much easier later on, than just to jump in head first.
and find your self an active fleet that is actually active on teamspeak so they can advise you in future and help you whit the dilitium grind.
remember to have fun first as this is a game . pvp is not so much competitive in this game, and the game is more social coop that any thing ells, mingle .
p.s. do not spend **** load of money, dill, or ec on ships before you actually know what you wont, very important.
Well I can't make any recommendations on the Romulan end since I don't have such a character yet and have not really looked at any of their ships.
As for Fed, the Avenger is likely the best balance between firepower, durability and maneuverability. With 5 forward weapon slots you definitely have good forward firepower, but that is offset by only 3 aft weapon slots. It comes with a Lt. Cmdr tactical station which is pretty good. The Cmdr engineering station means that you still have decent options for survivability. It does have lower hull points than a Sovereign, but I think it is a good trade off for better maneuverability.
While it is nice that it can use a cloaking device, you need to buy the Defiant (Tactical Escort Retrofit) for 2,000 Zen to get that console.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Qin_Heavy_Raptor
Then at level 50 you can choose the Mogh battle cruiser which is basically similar to the Avenger.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mogh_Battle_Cruiser
However, that is for if and when you decide to play the KDF faction.
Not really getting into the Klingon's for some reason and my Klingon Toon is only 17 but yeah I like the Mogh option for them. Maybe at some point.
Really leaning toward the Scimitar but the more I read about them, the more it looks like they need the 3 set bonus to make them good, at least early on. At $50 for the bundle though, it is kind of pricey. Also since all three are so similar, I kind of feel like I would be spending $25 extra just for two consoles that I will probably replace at some point. Also I could get two very diverse ships for that price, prehaps one each for my Rom and Fed toon though I kind of want to focus on one or the other.
They don't make these sort of decisions easy do they? Well unless you have unlimited money that is hehe.
You dont need anything more than the ship. Thats the reason scimitars are so wanted, because they are the best offensive ship in the game even without consoles or anything. If you add the set console, well, its even better. I dont like the scimitars because they are too too too big. And because i saw so many of em in the game, that i lost all my interest in em since ages ago. And because they are straight forward and you dont need almost any skill to make em hurt. I prefer something more challenging and interesting, like the Mogh, or of course a fleet BoP (my must have adquisition in a future). But i dont want to see the scimitar (or the tulward or falchion, whatever) anymore lol.