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Why does UFP starship not use phase cloaking device?
belkin222
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Fact Section 31 was trying to cause a with Romulus star Empire and UFP.
First off thing cause the exponvise issue cool system keep eye on that while using it. Something easly been done by a computer. It aslo near by Romulus terrioires how convent for Romulus. Why do so close Romulan space. After they once try hide you doing this to. Since that forbid having cloaking techology in the first.
So of course Section 31 build working one. SO why none UFP starship have phase cloaking device.
First off thing cause the exponvise issue cool system keep eye on that while using it. Something easly been done by a computer. It aslo near by Romulus terrioires how convent for Romulus. Why do so close Romulan space. After they once try hide you doing this to. Since that forbid having cloaking techology in the first.
So of course Section 31 build working one. SO why none UFP starship have phase cloaking device.
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Fact - This poor dead horse doesn't even have a corpse left.
Holy Engrish Batman!
Says you. The lore in the game itself says the treaty is still in effect, with the Federation president stating that they would respect it (with the exceptions of the Defiant classes and the Gal-X), which for all we know still use loaned Romulan cloaking tech.
And those only have cloaks because they were shown on-screen using a cloaking device which was unique to their prototype. That means only two individual ships in Starfleet had a cloaking device (minus the phasic cloak nosnense thingy) but everybody would whine and rage if they couldn't cloak their snowflake ship.
Starfleet doesn't use cloaks. Get over it.
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The Federation faction will not get widespread access to cloaks on their own starships. Period. End of thread. Nothing that is said in this thread will change that. CBS would probably block the move, and I don't think even Cryptic would be interested in putting it in.
You wanna fly cloaking ships other than the very limited Federation options? Play the factions that are supposed to have them. Heck, you can even have your very own pet Federation-aligned Romulan, complete with overpowered Romulan ships.
In reality, the Gal-X is from an alternate universe where that treaty was never made, and thus the ONLY reason it has a cloaking device is because that ship comes from an alternate reality.
DS9 - Season 7 Episode 20 - Changing the Face of Evil
So technically the Federation has no other ships with cloaking capability since the Galaxy-X is from an alternate timeline.
TNG - Season 7 Series Finale - All Good Things...
The only cloaking device that exists in Star Trek canon is the prototype which was salvaged from the USS Pegasus which is the Phasing Cloak and who knows what happened to that.
TNG - Season 7 - Episode 12 - Pegasus
I'd love to have a battle cloak or a phasing cloak for select ships or a standard cloak for all Federation ships but as someone had stated earlier in the thread, it is a dead horse, beaten to death OVER and OVER. Just forget about it
Mask Energy Signature. Different tech, same result.
On top of that Romolus Republic offer help far cloak techology goes before side gain allies.
I agree. There's no cloaking on other ships then gal-x, defiant, or avenger. And that's not going to change.
On a side point the Episode in question I just finished rewatching in TNG: (All good things...) shows it was a alternate future for the same universe. The Klingon Empire Defeated the Romulan star empire and took over it's territory.
Therefore the treaty of Algeron was in effect till the RSE fell. Remember that in this alternate future the Enterprise was about to be decommissioned when Riker using Admiral's priviliege had the ship retrofited with all the tricks including cloak and lance.
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A. Gene Roddenberry thought they shouldn't. Of course, GR thought a lot of things.
B. The Treaty of Algeron, which as has been established is so completely irrelevant now that it's not even funny. No, I don't care if they UFP president officially still holds it as valid, the Federation is at war with the RSE. Treaties tend to fall apart under those circumstances. And as for the Republic? Hah! It is relying on Federation help just to stay alive. I'm relatively certain they would gladly offer cloaking tech to help survive.
C. And, most importantly, the Klingons would whine. Well, they would whine more. I mean, it would be terrible if they didn't have their special advantages exclusive to them any more. What do you expect, in-universe logic? Balance?
Having said that, i would love a phase cloak on the Oberth.
Nobody will ever fear balance if said phase cloak can only be used on the Oberth.
You right I believe the Devs said that The Federation is up holding all the same agreements with the Romulan Republic. That was with the Romulan Empire.
It's not the idea that Starfleet would not know how to develop cloaks. They've had examples captured throughout the history of the IP. The Romulan D7's cloaking device stolen by Kirk in TOS. The captured Klingon Bird of Prey from the movie era. Etc.
But the real idea is that Gene Roddenberry's "White Knights" don't go skulking around is the central theme. Starfleet's ships have traditionally had a bright theme in their appearances. From TOS, TNG, DS9 / Dominion War, VOY, and even ENT shows. Through all the various movies. Starfleet has fielded generally bright schemes, i.e. light grey or near white. When Starfleet comes for you, for good or bad, you'll know.
Yeah, this, I mean seriously.
The Fed. playerbase needs to actually start proposing some cool advancements on their ships that fit within the lore of Star Trek and how the Federation is suposed to be if they want to see something new added.
This constant whining for cloaks is becomming boring if not annoying to say at least.