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Romulan Pride -Where is it Cryptic?
bendalek
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Though this isn't exactly a "gameplay" thread, it ties into many aspects of gameplay I believe ...
I kind of get what Cryptic was doing when they came up with the Romulan Faction (fraction?)
They've lost their Homeworld and are scattered throughout the Galaxy, so having them align with one of the other Major Factions, sound s like a good idea ...
However i think that Cryptic overlooked one thing ... Romulan Pride!
I'll admit, that my first toon in STO was a Fed, because ... Kirk, Picard, Janeway, Sisco, Archer ... All Trek Royalty and all Fed characters so it was kind of ... expected? ...
I then went to a Klingon, and I wondered how I ever played my Fed toons, with their self righteousness, and their cloying pretense of being the 'Good Guys" ...
The "Viking like" nature of the Honourable Klingon Warrior plus the fun of playing a more "rebel" or 'tough guy' character made them very appealing ...
Then I made my first Romulan and I've become a dedicated convert ... Their sense of Honour, their Strength, their dedication to their families and race plus their strong emotions, all combine to make them one of the most fascinating and enjoyable races to play.
I think Cryptic have overlooked how truly strong the love is for their Romulan/Reman Toons, many players feel, and it's saddening to read so many threads with, in essence,' the same basic or underlying theme ...
Cryptic, please give us Romulan's and Remans our pride back! Make us a true Faction
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I kind of get what Cryptic was doing when they came up with the Romulan Faction (fraction?)
They've lost their Homeworld and are scattered throughout the Galaxy, so having them align with one of the other Major Factions, sound s like a good idea ...
However i think that Cryptic overlooked one thing ... Romulan Pride!
I'll admit, that my first toon in STO was a Fed, because ... Kirk, Picard, Janeway, Sisco, Archer ... All Trek Royalty and all Fed characters so it was kind of ... expected? ...
I then went to a Klingon, and I wondered how I ever played my Fed toons, with their self righteousness, and their cloying pretense of being the 'Good Guys" ...
The "Viking like" nature of the Honourable Klingon Warrior plus the fun of playing a more "rebel" or 'tough guy' character made them very appealing ...
Then I made my first Romulan and I've become a dedicated convert ... Their sense of Honour, their Strength, their dedication to their families and race plus their strong emotions, all combine to make them one of the most fascinating and enjoyable races to play.
I think Cryptic have overlooked how truly strong the love is for their Romulan/Reman Toons, many players feel, and it's saddening to read so many threads with, in essence,' the same basic or underlying theme ...
Cryptic, please give us Romulan's and Remans our pride back! Make us a true Faction
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Name: Meaghan
Fleets: Tal'Diann, Imperial Romulan Fleet, Axanar Marines, LGBT of Starfleet, House of Ta'al
Characters: Dhivael i'Ratleihfi t'Kamemor (Rom-KDF), Empress Sela(Rom-Fed), V'alkris Morath(Fed), Kara Thrace(Fed), Jaeih Piccolo(Rom-Fed), Ellaria(KDF), Zylim Dukat(Fed)
fact is when you compare klingons at launch to now, things are remarkably intergrated. at launch KDFers couldn't visit DS9 etc.
these days Klingons can reach nearly everywhere. save a few "core federation worlds"
Why for instance aren't Romulans/Remans, full members of the Omega Task Force? When RP'ing, our toons almost singlehandedly 'save the Galaxy" so why can't we have a Romulan/Reman Operative Uniform/Armor?
Not only does the dialog assume you're Fed(while talking to Romulans), it also assumes you don't know anything about Vulcan history. :cool:
But anyways, I like the general attitude the Romulans have in their story missions. The Tal'Shiar sold us out to the Iconians? Tal'Shiar can haz dai nao. The Elachi are attacking? Dai plz. There's no whimpering to your ally for assistance. YOU destroy the threats personally. Unlike the Feds who simply beat Hakeev into submission and let Obisek execute him, Romulans curbstomp him and kill him personally.
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The problem is Star Trek was never really going to work as a traditional multi-faction MMO, the IP is too Federation oriented, and that shows amongst the fans. What they should have done, and what I think they are going to be doing soon, is end the Fed/KDF war, then for teaming purposes faction doesn't matter. They have already marginalized faction for most of the game anyhow, most PvE queued events are cross faction, and they have been testing out the faction agnostic PvP queue with Shuttle PvP.
And it will probably make a better game to make factions more interactive. How many times have I been on new Romulus and seeing one faction or the other struggle to get a tagging group? Or in the Voth BZ?
Let us team and let us be own own factions standing on our own two feet.
It went out when Romulus was destroyed.
Afterwards, what was left of Romulan pride was whored out to the Klingon Empire and Federation by D'Tan. Romulan pride can be seen when Romulan Republic ships and crew are killing each other on behalf of their Klingon & Starfleet Overlords that D'Tan has sold them out to.
As far as the Klingons and Federation go, what better way to keep a rival down than to have them kill each other in your war? All while giving them tents, blankets, and scraps of food in return.
I don't think you'll find many true Romulans who would agree with you ... While it's true that Romulans aren't the power they once were in the Galaxy ... That power came from the Strength and Courage of the Romulan and Reman People! And we still have it within us to be that Powerful Empire once again!
I think even the veritable D'Tan would be surprised at how many Romulan and Reman Captains still have their Pride and Honour, And perhaps he made the decision a little to hastily.
I know I, for one, only choose the "last resort" option when given no other choice by the story, and I'd very much like the option to choose a more worthy path If I could.
As for the Klingons and Federation? They may be laughing into their Bloodwine's and Earl Grey's at our predicament now ... But rest assured, the worm will turn! And as we all know .. Payback's a *****!
How much longer are you going to spout this TRIBBLE? Show me any mission in which Romulan Republic military personnel kill each other. PvP doesn't count; nobody ordered those actions -- they are entirely voluntary on the part of the players. Give it a rest; officers of the Romulan Republic do not kill each other, on behalf of the Federation, the Syndicate, the Nneikha, or anyone else.
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I say the stuff because it's the truth in the game :cool:
I see the Romulans lining up in the Federation-Klingon War on both sides. And I see Romulans lining up to kill each other. I see those Dhelans, T'Varos, Mogais, Scimitars, gleefully shoot at fellow Republic ships. I see in the very early stages of the Romulans' own storyline campaign that you choose where your allegiance lies... the Klingons or the Federation, the overlords that D'Tan has sold the Romulan Republic out to ("Neutral No More"). There is not even an option to say, F'off to them, and remain totally with the Republic. Instead, you will serve and die on behalf of these overlords.
I see it for what it is.
I am afraid your information is outdated. There is no more Klingon war. Our pvp is old outdated, but best IMO piece of STO. If pvp rewamp shall take its place, there shall be no kdf/fed ques. Those shall turn into ques without alliance. Faction shall no matter, and a backstory for all this is a holodeck simulation.
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Romulans....Remans...other factions little pets. At least they could have given them two split up factions, like the Republic and the Tal Shiar, and let them align to one side or a fleet or what so ever.
I like my Romulan and Reman toon, one is on the FED, the other on the KDF faction, but it just dont feels right. They should be less bound to them.
When you do "A Step Between Stars" it is alluded to in the end conversation that an agreement has to be made between the Federation and Klingon Empire, but is made difficult by the ongoing conflict between the 2 powers. In between this is the Romulan Republic.
The war is indeed still going on, even though Cryptic has no real clue in what they're doing in giving this game direction in storyline and background consistency. As of right now, we're still shooting at each other.
That's as current as you can get.
Oh, you mean the mission in which the Tal'Shiar tricks officers of the Romulan Republic into trying to kill each other -- and they still don't kill each other?
I see you being hysterical and inventing nonsense.
1. Apart from a few minor skirmishes, "the Federation-Klingon War" is now nothing but two sides posturing and glaring at each other, maybe occasionally puffing out their chests, but otherwise cooperating on multiple fronts against common foes.
2. No Romulans fought each other in the early battles.
3. The minor skirmishes above involve either KDF or Starfleet fighting each other. Occasionally, a Romulan ship (the player) will enter on one side or the other, to fight either Starfleet or the KDF, but not other Romulans. Romulans do not serve on the vessels of either the KDF or Starfleet; Romulans serve on Romulan vessels.
"We"? Who are these "we" who are "still shooting at each other"? Not Romulans, that's who.
We don't get that lucky I bet... they're gonna keep him and try an warm fuzzy huggy lovey the **** outta the Republic until whatever is left has lost anything Romulan about it, then Cryptic will tell us how popular this decision was among the players.
I would still like to see us get our own faction, its just not proper that we should go from being a galactic super power to having D'tan sell us like slaves to the Feds and KDF for free labour.
Well put. That's exactly what this looks like.
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Name: Meaghan
Fleets: Tal'Diann, Imperial Romulan Fleet, Axanar Marines, LGBT of Starfleet, House of Ta'al
Characters: Dhivael i'Ratleihfi t'Kamemor (Rom-KDF), Empress Sela(Rom-Fed), V'alkris Morath(Fed), Kara Thrace(Fed), Jaeih Piccolo(Rom-Fed), Ellaria(KDF), Zylim Dukat(Fed)
Probably not, but I could see the story going somewhere along these lines...
Undine realize that having the Romulans strong will make conquering the Alpha quadrant much more difficult. With the Fed and KDF at war, everything on that front is fine, but the Undine realize they can play to the splinter within the Romulans to try to split their powerbase.
Since its obvious Sela is affiliated with the Iconians in some way anyway, and the Undine probably dont want to mess with them too much, the install Dtan to convince the republic to unite to stamp out Sela and the Tal shiar/RSE before they can reunify the people under one banner.
Now that the romulan military is dependent on the Feds/KDF for support, it basically nullifies the need for concern for that once powerful empire.
The endgame is the return of the Iconians vs the Undine anyway, and this ensures that the minor races (human, klingon, romulan, etc) have no chance to survive the conflict because they are not united, and have been fighting each other and their own factions internally all along.
Just musing, but its a storyline that very well could be on deck >_>
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Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
Meh, I don't play those crappy missions(leveled characters in mirror event), so I don't really know what is being described there, but I'm afraid that the only war which is going is the war between two drunk officers on the Drozana station. Turning que's into not faction specific with a holodeck simulation as a backstory shall be a final nail to the old STO. You can't scavenge glory in the holo suit...
Current condition I would describe as a cold war. If you are following official storyline than Romulan republic is a single player faction. All romulan characters are actually a single person, so they cant fight each other.
I have refused Cryptic storyline myself and playing my own, way more fun.
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ahh but you forget, that incompetent half breed Sela is on the throne in the first place at least partially due to Undine manipulations
you can do that all you want, does not make it true at all though. Cryptics story is the only one that matters in terms of game canon and how to figure things out.
Seems very Romulan to me.
Due to what all happened to her. She is also showing pride as she fights for survival. So she is not a person to be taken lightly. This is how I view it for RP purposes. Granted my KDF is not one to be taken lightly, however my Romulan is really not someone you want to tick off.
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