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question about starship sqaudrons

kempeitai21kempeitai21 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I know in the real military a full squadron in the air force is 36 planes! I've heard the term used in star trek the next generation a few times does anybody know how many starships makes a squadron in star trek online?
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    According to Memory Alpha:
    Squadrons were a small group of generally three to five ships. Although the exact number of vessels could vary, a Klingon squadron of Birds-of-Prey consisted of five ships , whereas a squadron of Jem'Hadar attack ships usually was comprised of three. (DS9: "Once More Unto the Breach", "The Jem'Hadar")

    Starfleet only organized small ships like their attack fighter in squadrons. (DS9: "Sacrifice of Angels", "What You Leave Behind")
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    kempeitai21 wrote: »
    I know in the real military a full squadron in the air force is 36 planes! I've heard the term used in star trek the next generation a few times does anybody know how many starships makes a squadron in star trek online?

    You have to think of squadrons in the sense of the navy. A naval squadron or Carrier strike group is basically 8-10 ships.

    Infact a carrier strike group usually consists of the following: 1 Aircraft carrier, 2 cruisers 2-3 destroyers, 2-3 frigates and usually an attached submarine.

    So anywhere from 8-10 ships depenidng.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    got a discrepancy at this point. a fireteam is 4 men in a group, a squad is 8 men in a group at minimum, so i assume the same is true in naval situations and in the air.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    got a discrepancy at this point. a fireteam is 4 men in a group, a squad is 8 men in a group at minimum, so i assume the same is true in naval situations and in the air.

    Squadrons not so much. They have flights, sections, squadrons, groups wing for air force style.

    Naval goes basically in the squad type format. Infact the best scifi fiction writer on this is probably David Weber and his Honorverse saga.

    Their squadrons run between 6 and 8 ships, and are split into divisions of 2-3 ships depending. Though some battlecruiser squadrons are split into 2 4 ship divisions inside of 1 squadron.

    Infact in one book how the 8 ship squadron broke down:

    VA overall squadron commander. Had two 4 ship divisions of battlecurisers. VA also commanded the first divsion. Second divison and the squadron's second in command was commanded by a commodore.

    Plus the VA did NOT sit in the captain's seat, a CAPTAIN did that. The VA had her own flag bridge and her own staff that included in this verse:

    Chief of staff(ranking officer for the flagstaff ofcourse)
    Operations officer. In our sense a fleet tactical officer.
    Electronic Warfare Officer. In our sense probably a second tactial officer who did defensive weapons.
    Intelligence officer
    Communications officer:
    Logistical Officer
    And ofcourse the lowely flag lieutenant who is the go to person for meetings, running errands for the VA and making sure the VA sticks to the plan of the day. Lowest officer on the totem pole.

    Again this is just how a writer does it in his honorverse style, but the format is probably taken from real life navies and this kind of format could easily be adapted for Star Trek.
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  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I think for the purpose of RP and canon the ship hierarchy could be broken down into the following
    • One ship
    • Squadrons: 4-5 ships working in concert in one area and one engagement. i.e. teams
    • Task Group: 4-5 Squadrons working on different elements of a single engagement. i.e. Starbase Fleet Defense
    • Fleet: Several number of Task groups working over a large geographical (astrographical?) region, but not consisting of ALL the ships within the Navy. Not working in a single engagement. i.e. Fleet or Guild within game.

    With Starfleet Command, Admiral Quinn coordinating all actions of all the fleets. Granted, this means nothing in gameplay terms. Although adding team command structure within where the Team leader could call coordination of targets to the other players...

    Wishful thinking.. :P
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  • kempeitai21kempeitai21 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thanks for the response every-one! the reason I asked is because I build model kits and wanted to do a diarama where Romulan, Klingon and Federation groups are together facing jem' hadar sqaudrons in battle with models attached to my ceiling but I want to have acurate numbers of ships (to the star trek universe) (in terms of squadrons) but I did'nt know what would be acurate I'm thinking 5 romulan, 5 klingon and 5 federation ships verses the jem'hadar ships...
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited March 2014
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization

    More info than you'll need but it ought to help anyways.
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