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realmini
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Talking about pvp, in terms of my preferred activity list in descending order of how awesome it is/much time i spend there. Theres a few different ways to get a fix, all involve feds dying in fireballs.
>>Kerrat: Really can't say enough about the best zone in the game. While it may have its downsides periodic camps and perpetual interruptions via reset, no other zone offers a static enduring pvp experience. It can start quiet, one small skirmish resulting in epic gankfests, fedball pwnage, and plenty of noobs asking wtf happened. Whether 10v1 or 1 v10, the wide array of possible encounters in kerrat is unmatched in sto pvp. Not just for farmers, long time pvp veterans often go there to engage hardened enemies worthy of coordinated and patient attacks.
The sad thing being this is the only zone which even resembles open pvp in sto
Kerrat owns, and i likely spent way over 50% of time in game there, waiting and watching for the next pwn moment.
>>Organized 10v10 "Big PVPS"
Over the years the next best thing to kerrat has been the (lag filled) clusterfudge that is 10 v 10 big pvp games hosted by yours truly. From my perspective, few games offer a greater selection of ripe targets, often not paying attention/lagging out. Whether i spam my friends list and invite everyone randomly, people join from the organizedpvp or tyler durden channel, there is no trouble getting a mega match going on (altho i havent been all up on about this too much lately). Props to gorn/jpf for also beign a long time big pvp supporter. 10v10 ftw!
if u could have ten man team ui and less lag, 10v10 pvp arena would be more popular, as of now its a fun nonstandard to occasionally make happen.
>>1v1 Challenge
Theres a growing number of individuals who really appreciate duels. Fostered easily through the organizedpvp chat channel, i often accept duels with randoms all the time. A refreshing match with "noobs" who bring whatever they can muster is a grand old time. A GG for all and a proton instavape for the unfortunate. From old time legends like yak to the total random noob, matching ships in the age old endeavor of mano e mano is a particular favorite of the fine few. Not for everyone, but im sure theres someone on right now, willing to x up for a "duel anyone"
>> Pugstomp time
Im the one stomped, and i like it. Qing alone in fvk pvp often i find people i know anyone, and we wtfpwnzor random afkers/ quitter feds. But every great while I find a great game, either a premade or an outright mismatch 5v3, managing to get your own personal victory knowing the odds: priceless. Getting kills no matter what the enemy team does or consists of>> golden apex of true skill pwn players. (see santa claws win 5v1 s etc) Its liek a box of choclates. Its pretty much always gonna be some form of chocolate in there. The fact that this game mode can only be tolerated so much is softened by the reality that fvk matches rarely pop, and if they do, theyre most likely fed side premades or filled with lopsided fed heavy teams>> my forte.
>> Tournaments (quasi pug)
I used to host some surprise attack tournaments, there have been a few pug centric tournaments, and most non pug centered tournaments genrally have some pug teams anyway. The last minute teams assembled with nary a chance to go the stretch, are fun to be a part of. Glad to have been able to participate in some recent and long past tournys that allowed late joining randoms to fill in/ form teams. hudos again to dkfrontiers!
>> The elusive premade
I cant speak for anyone else but the vast majority of my pvp time in game has not been part of a handcrafted team who coordinated their specs and skillsets. Usually that resulted in someone else telling me i needed to do x y z different. (stop splode urself so much, use a heal ffs) So i avoid these generally, atho the very few handful of great games i have had playing over the years with Lore, Critz, and now HOBO fleets were awesome indeed. A completely different game is to be had using teamspeak, coordination, and with even a meager familiarity with your team mates> let alone years of practice and precision timing. While great and generally longed after and sought by all, the pinnacle sto premade vs premade exhibition of skills/gear really just doesnt happen all that much. I blame myself, for not carign enough. Instead of asking people to form a premade and troll the ques/ try to find an enemy premade (difficult proposition) I end up in kerrat or 1v1. To each his own!
Thats talking about pvp from minmax bias. Whats makes u pvp! dont say lolground
>>Kerrat: Really can't say enough about the best zone in the game. While it may have its downsides periodic camps and perpetual interruptions via reset, no other zone offers a static enduring pvp experience. It can start quiet, one small skirmish resulting in epic gankfests, fedball pwnage, and plenty of noobs asking wtf happened. Whether 10v1 or 1 v10, the wide array of possible encounters in kerrat is unmatched in sto pvp. Not just for farmers, long time pvp veterans often go there to engage hardened enemies worthy of coordinated and patient attacks.
The sad thing being this is the only zone which even resembles open pvp in sto
Kerrat owns, and i likely spent way over 50% of time in game there, waiting and watching for the next pwn moment.
>>Organized 10v10 "Big PVPS"
Over the years the next best thing to kerrat has been the (lag filled) clusterfudge that is 10 v 10 big pvp games hosted by yours truly. From my perspective, few games offer a greater selection of ripe targets, often not paying attention/lagging out. Whether i spam my friends list and invite everyone randomly, people join from the organizedpvp or tyler durden channel, there is no trouble getting a mega match going on (altho i havent been all up on about this too much lately). Props to gorn/jpf for also beign a long time big pvp supporter. 10v10 ftw!
if u could have ten man team ui and less lag, 10v10 pvp arena would be more popular, as of now its a fun nonstandard to occasionally make happen.
>>1v1 Challenge
Theres a growing number of individuals who really appreciate duels. Fostered easily through the organizedpvp chat channel, i often accept duels with randoms all the time. A refreshing match with "noobs" who bring whatever they can muster is a grand old time. A GG for all and a proton instavape for the unfortunate. From old time legends like yak to the total random noob, matching ships in the age old endeavor of mano e mano is a particular favorite of the fine few. Not for everyone, but im sure theres someone on right now, willing to x up for a "duel anyone"
>> Pugstomp time
Im the one stomped, and i like it. Qing alone in fvk pvp often i find people i know anyone, and we wtfpwnzor random afkers/ quitter feds. But every great while I find a great game, either a premade or an outright mismatch 5v3, managing to get your own personal victory knowing the odds: priceless. Getting kills no matter what the enemy team does or consists of>> golden apex of true skill pwn players. (see santa claws win 5v1 s etc) Its liek a box of choclates. Its pretty much always gonna be some form of chocolate in there. The fact that this game mode can only be tolerated so much is softened by the reality that fvk matches rarely pop, and if they do, theyre most likely fed side premades or filled with lopsided fed heavy teams>> my forte.
>> Tournaments (quasi pug)
I used to host some surprise attack tournaments, there have been a few pug centric tournaments, and most non pug centered tournaments genrally have some pug teams anyway. The last minute teams assembled with nary a chance to go the stretch, are fun to be a part of. Glad to have been able to participate in some recent and long past tournys that allowed late joining randoms to fill in/ form teams. hudos again to dkfrontiers!
>> The elusive premade
I cant speak for anyone else but the vast majority of my pvp time in game has not been part of a handcrafted team who coordinated their specs and skillsets. Usually that resulted in someone else telling me i needed to do x y z different. (stop splode urself so much, use a heal ffs) So i avoid these generally, atho the very few handful of great games i have had playing over the years with Lore, Critz, and now HOBO fleets were awesome indeed. A completely different game is to be had using teamspeak, coordination, and with even a meager familiarity with your team mates> let alone years of practice and precision timing. While great and generally longed after and sought by all, the pinnacle sto premade vs premade exhibition of skills/gear really just doesnt happen all that much. I blame myself, for not carign enough. Instead of asking people to form a premade and troll the ques/ try to find an enemy premade (difficult proposition) I end up in kerrat or 1v1. To each his own!
Thats talking about pvp from minmax bias. Whats makes u pvp! dont say lolground
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I still support this. Ker'rat Zone Chat has been, is now, and will always be, priceless. Ranging from the low level PvP in those lowbie zones all the way up to Ker'rat's 5, 7, and 8 (the level 50 zones), it's never a disappointment.
And the MUI chat? I couldn't play for a good 5 minutes, I was laughing so hard.
There's so much beauty in there. The Ker'rat chat should be available in every zone in the game. It can be all quiet and civil. Suddenly someone ganks an angry person, and voila: Flamewar. Personally, I love the random hateful /tells followed by a /ignore, so you never get to respond.
Derrick - Fed Eng
The No-BS #3 and #4 were by far the best in sto pvp imo, i never had more fun that in those tournaments.
The big 10vs10 pvps are fun, i played a couple of them and really enjoy them.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
I wouldn't mind an open pvp area with no objectives, just terrain and random siding with a safe zone at each spawn point. Other than that, no rules, just quick and dirty pvp
Your first bit is why I don't think the second bit would work.
How about some Joint Training Exercises...a zone around the size of Ker'rat - multiple objectives - ways to earn points, 25 players, 5 to a team, every team for themselves, factionless teams...
That's a good idea too. I could totally go for that.
For example if it was an Instance Cap of 20 players per instance, an individual instance would allow for 10 Feds and 10 Klingons.
Either that, or make the side swap a Feature! Allow us to swap sides in Ker'rat! It was one of the best bugs that should have been a feature instead.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
HAHAHAHAHAHA... I can totally see the following scenario happening:
You head towards borg. You engage borg. You pick cube. Cube gets vaped by someone else. You wanted cube. You get angry. You swap sides. You vape cube stealer. Cube stealer gets mad but you switched back so he can't do anything. Cube stealer switches sides and vapes you.
Rinse and repeat as many times as necessary...
20 player limit per zone
no factions - everybody's "gray".
Ferengi Arenamaster
Up to 10 players can speak to the Arenamaster to start a fight between 1-5vs1-5 players.
The other 10-18 players remain and can watch with no interference.
Leave a certain range of the planet/arena area and be disqualified.
Each "match" is over when only one person per side remains.
No time limit on the zone - doesn't reset.
I think we need a Federation/KDF warzone similar in design to the Dyson Sphere.
So here's the setup, it would have 3 areas in total. 2 of them would be respective Federation and KDF territories and that is where the PvE part of the place comes in. Random incursions and basic missions that spawn plenty of fodder, it would be the alternative to the farming part of Ker'rat.
And the 3rd area is bang in the middle where the open PvP happens. It can work like the contested zone we have now - a huge ground and space map where strategic points are taken for minor buffs. Give each side a few dailies and perhaps better loot drop rates as further incentive and there you go.
The risk averse can stay in their respective territories, and those who don't mind seeing their pixels get blown up can play in the contested area. I can see it being good fun.
I am sold. In all seriousness though, this is a great setup. I would love to see something similar to this implemented in-game.
*begins holding breath*
:eek:
Not necessarily just 1v1s...sometimes 2v1s, 2v2s, etc, etc, etc - but basically that if you weren't there for the agreed upon start of the fight, stay out of it. One of the things I miss about being able to glitch sides, is folks would do so to be able to slaughter folks that did interrupt.
There was once or twice, though, that I popped around there to see how things were doing while cloaked - and wasn't careful and got popped by the Big Red Ball AoE.
But yeah, I would like that 50% cap. Honestly, both sides are guilty of spawncamping when their side has superiority.
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-LindseyLohan - Under appreciated Rom Bug
-EmiliaClarke - Under construction engi recluse
So with the Undine Marks, what do you think we'll be able to buy?
Heh, Willard's T5x4 (one of the reasons I kept him, there's all sorts of little investment things in him). Even with Sponsorship tokens, none of the other guys are...well... none are above T2 Nukara/Omega, none are even T1 Rom, and two might be T1 Dyson. They're all over three months old...lol. I do the "time limited" things...kind of...sometimes. But yeah, I'll lose hours in Ker'rat doing the same thing for no reason at all* - but the grinding drives me crazy.
*the reason is fun, and it's one of the reasons that it bugs the Hell out of me that folks want to turn PvP into the same grind as elsewhere. I PvP cause PvP is fun, not for stuff.
I know what you mean the grinding is a pain in the TRIBBLE