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chaosgod777
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I have a more serious question for cryptic. It's been here for years now. Everyone who does the devivian FE series got one, and at the time we all thought it had to be a typo that just never got fixed. Now with the Dyson Sphere introduced, there is more things that give this exotic and rare damage type. I'm talking about Proton Weapons.
Since the begining we had Antiproton which suggests the negative of proton. Since seeing this I wondered if proton just meant polaron, but that was set aside when we first got a weapon with this elusive damage type. since then I wondered when will we get a full set of proton weapons...pistols, rifles, assult weapons, beams, cannons, and torps. Now some can come up with a case that the dyson protonic polaron weapons are just these as they have proton damage on them...but they are not true proton weapons. Proton weapons deal proton damage as we have seen from the assault weapon and the dyson experimental weapon and the Sollinae Dual Heavy Proton Cannons equipped to the dyson science destroyer.
You have hinted at us finally getting a full complement of these type of weapons since the introduction of the type on the polaron with the sphere. When will we finally have this as a standalone full damage type like ap?! Now, some people will argure that they will have to make consoles for this damage type. and that without those this could be considered overpowered. the sphere rep gives consoles that increase proton damage and resistance to proton. that said I think 3 consoles are needed too. 1 pure damage console, 1 proton specific resistance console like ablative or monotonium only for proton resistance, and 1 that powers up exotic particle's with proton chance. of course fleet counterparts too. I would also like to see a proton torpedo, maybe 2.5% chance create exotic particle rupture on target. maybe energy weapons have 2.5% chance exotic particle rupture, 23 exotic damage per second for 10 seconds, damage increases with skill in particle emitters.
just some ideas i had, please discuss and improve.
Since the begining we had Antiproton which suggests the negative of proton. Since seeing this I wondered if proton just meant polaron, but that was set aside when we first got a weapon with this elusive damage type. since then I wondered when will we get a full set of proton weapons...pistols, rifles, assult weapons, beams, cannons, and torps. Now some can come up with a case that the dyson protonic polaron weapons are just these as they have proton damage on them...but they are not true proton weapons. Proton weapons deal proton damage as we have seen from the assault weapon and the dyson experimental weapon and the Sollinae Dual Heavy Proton Cannons equipped to the dyson science destroyer.
You have hinted at us finally getting a full complement of these type of weapons since the introduction of the type on the polaron with the sphere. When will we finally have this as a standalone full damage type like ap?! Now, some people will argure that they will have to make consoles for this damage type. and that without those this could be considered overpowered. the sphere rep gives consoles that increase proton damage and resistance to proton. that said I think 3 consoles are needed too. 1 pure damage console, 1 proton specific resistance console like ablative or monotonium only for proton resistance, and 1 that powers up exotic particle's with proton chance. of course fleet counterparts too. I would also like to see a proton torpedo, maybe 2.5% chance create exotic particle rupture on target. maybe energy weapons have 2.5% chance exotic particle rupture, 23 exotic damage per second for 10 seconds, damage increases with skill in particle emitters.
just some ideas i had, please discuss and improve.
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While I won't comment on the new weapons... you are aware that the fact you got a Proton weapon for the Devidan series was a homage to Ghost Busters... what with the entire Devidan series, especially the parts right after you got the Proton Pack were a classic "haunted building" scenario...
Or am I the only one who hears this when doing those missions?
Yes, we are all ghost busters.
I was surprised the VOTH weapons were not proton. The Dyson Sphere reputation set seems to be the only one that gives players a weapon that there are no other "standard" versions of (the DSD's DHC is not "standard").
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Well, anti-protons, being the opposite of protons, would have an opposite effect on exotics that Protons have special impact on... so... if you want to make the 200 ft tall raging marshmallow man even more powerful, go right ahead and shoot it with the anti-protons...
In seriousness though, you're right. A proton beam weapon is pretty much the most basic form of particle beam... which may be WHY its considered exotic... I mean, it be like having a monster that's only hurt by lead bullets propelled by black powder ignited by a spark from a piece of flint striking steel. Its not exotic because its high tech and new, its exotic because its OLD and people are not familiar with how to use them anymore.
By this thinking, they then 300 years later built a proton based weapon into their newest ship using Technology found on the Dyson sphere.....
That doenst make sense at all....
But i never saw proton weapons in ST, not even in the shows.
Apparently Dyson tech was just used to make something even the Kazon invented as ground traps earlier. And the Ramurans use proton beams as a space weapon.
"Let them eat static!"
doesn't mean I wouldn't equip a Talarian warship with the experimental proton weapon, lobi ferengi missiles, and borg cutting beam if they were flyable and not just npc ships.
But in SW on the other hand, you had proton torpedoes (no, not photon, but proton), but apparently no proton beam weapons afaik.
The rest were laser based weapons, apart from vibro swords, and the iconic lightsaber offcourse.
The point is that because Starfleet never bothered with developing Proton (or Plasma) weapons further after switching to Phase weapons, they never explored that branch of the technology tree, so to speak.
Imagine, if you will, a 21st century world where, instead of switching to gasoline-burning engines, we instead had continued to perfect steam engines. The extra century of development on steam engines would mean that we would have ones much more efficient than any that we have now. Starfleet is in a similar position regarding plasma/proton weaponry--it became a "path not taken", but when they discovered that the Solane HAD taken that path and developed them to a high level, they reverse-engineered it in a hurry.
Although not 300 years there is a real life example of this with your computer, PCI was a dead end technology or it was thought of being and AGP slots took over being faster then PCI, a revisit to the PCI came out with the PCI-E slots. Which were better then AGP slots (Might have my alphabet mixed up on APG.. ^.^ You can google it though, I am sure it's out there.) Point is, many times we revisit old technology (ideas) and come at them with new ways of doing things. So yes, it is possible 300 years later Star Trek science revisited the old technology and expanded on it, with knew ideas and methods.
OH almost forgot, another example, Electric cars 100+ year idea that is revisited.
I was thinking the same thing. Protons are everywhere.
bringing back around the point here. I was more asking why they just dont put together a set of this type insted of these half hearted hybrids. Before protonic polaron my one type I have been uning since the game launched is antiproton. Sure, I have the romulan plasmas, hell I have a full set of every type of weapon you can think of for any type of ship setup. I think since they opened pandora's box they might as well open the lid instead of just cracking it for a peek.
side note: I'm loving the constant humor I'm seeing here!
I mean this type has a place if its done right and not jut thrown another overpowered buff effect. I liked the effect on the polarons, but lets be honest that effect is about the same as the original antiproton. Way back, I remember you used to be able to see antiproton's proc. 2.5% chance 50% shield penitration. I remember this clearly and so do my older fleetmates. It's close to what the protonic polaron does now with its extra damage. shortly after that slipup on cryptic's part they hid its proc agan and i think eventually took it away substatuting instead the crit severity +10% to all the weapons...this may have been there all along, its been 4 years and frankly I forgot their original state.
Even antiproton was added in after launch though. Anyone else remember it? So again, thy have opened pandora's box with this one, might as well finish it up and make a full type.