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With the forum still buzzing from the Galaxy Reboot and how the forum community believes it should have been done, it is easy to forget that there is another reboot on its way in S9.
Voyager, to be more specific the Intrepid line, is scheduled for an update.
Now the big question is: What do you want to see as an upgrade for the intrepid line.
Some things come to mind:
- Isokinetic Cannon
- If they take the easy way out and just throw on a hangar then it should launch delta flyers.
- http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Refractive_shield
- Warship Voyager skin
- Borg skin.
As for boff seating and consoles i think they don't need anything. To change too much would remove the science feeling from the intrepid.
So what are your ideas on the subject.
Voyager, to be more specific the Intrepid line, is scheduled for an update.
Now the big question is: What do you want to see as an upgrade for the intrepid line.
Some things come to mind:
- Isokinetic Cannon
- If they take the easy way out and just throw on a hangar then it should launch delta flyers.
- http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Refractive_shield
- Warship Voyager skin
- Borg skin.
As for boff seating and consoles i think they don't need anything. To change too much would remove the science feeling from the intrepid.
So what are your ideas on the subject.
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The biggest changes I would like are:
1) Change the ensign to universal
2) Change the Ablative Armor to something like additional shields like the Dyson Shield Matrix.
Instead of an timer, have the armor act like a second shield. Maybe 10 000 total with high resistance. Once that 10 000 is gone, the reverse armor animation occurs. Make it so that you can toggle the armor on and off, but give it a standard 3 min console cool down once you turn it off. While it is on, disable energy weapons.
I would like the warship and Borg skins added as well. Also, I agree with the sentiment that the intrepid's ensign should be a universal one.
For starters, it needs a hangar as it's outclassed by the vesta because of this and the universal Lt commander. Secondly, there needs to be synergy bonuses for equipping the ablative generator together with the Borg set. Combining 2 of the Borg set with the ablative Gen gives +10 to structural integrity, +10 power insulators, and +10 shields as an example. Add the third piece in and get +15 transphasic torpedo and +10 flow caps.
Mechanically, I think the Intrepid is fairly solid. I'm not looking for any upgrades there, as I believe stat-wise that the Fleet Long-Range Science Vessel can compete with (and perhaps even have the upper hand on) the Multi-Mission Science Vessels.
I'd really enjoy a much more authentic Voyager-style bridge; the "Intrepid" bridges present in-game as pretty sad excuses for 'future intrepid-class bridges'.
I'd like to see the practice of offering new ship skins (rather than whole ship variants with new consoles and such) restored. A hydrodynamic-looking modern Intrepid inspired from the Vesta and Planck would be pretty swell (and please perish the idea that over-abundance of negative space and double-necks is something that's popular with Star Trek fans - sleek and sexy is the way to go).
32k Hull
1.3 Shield Mod
5 Forward Weapons (can mount DHCs)
3 Aft Weapons
200 Crew
2 Device Slots
15 Turn Rate
0.15 Impulse Mod
50 Inertia
1 Hangar Slot
+10 Weapon, +5 Auxiliary Power
Sensor Analysis
*Secondary Deflector Slot
Cmdr. Uni, Lt. Tac, Lt.Cmdr. Eng, Lt.Cmdr. Sci
Eng Con: 2 - Sci Con: 4 - Tac Con: 4
Give it an absurd clicky console, something like: Arsenal Weapons System - Upgrades all attacks for 10 seconds with Torpedo Scatter Volley 3, Beam Fire at Will 3, Cannon Scatter Volley 3 - 2 minute cooldown - only mounts on Voyager Variants.
And it still wouldn't be as OP as the Scimitar...
Make it a lobi ship for all I care, take my (and everyone's) money!
Honestly, this is the case for most of the Fleet Science ships. Really the thing that takes the Vesta over the top in the hardcore debuffer role isn't its DHC compatibility but that it has a variant with 5 Sci Consoles and the Hangar which, when chosen carefully, can add tremendously to whatever it's currently specializing in. Otherwise, the Fleet Intrepid has a somewhat better shield mod, hair better hull mod, and otherwise the same maneuverability stats with a less flexible BOFF seating.
And this isn't directed at you, umaeko, but where the heck is all the hate I'm seeing for the third Ensign Sci seat coming from? Sci has tons of awesome Ensign Sci abilities to choose from, many of which you might not want to build solely around but which can be added without compromising the capabilities/main thrust of your ship setup. Giving the Intrepid a Universal Ensign seat would do more to emphasize the gap in flexibility between it and the Vesta, rather than make the Intrepid stand out, IMHO.
I do, however, agree it needs a little something to set it apart... maybe a two-piece set bonus with the Photonic Shockwave Torpedo console that cuts the cooldown on (or maybe upgrades the strength or accuracy of) its inherent Target: Subsystems abilities, as (and my memory may be faulty here), I recall Captain Janeway never being shy about taking out a critical subsystem or three of enemy ship.
Firstly, I take the four subsystem targeting powers and shove them in my Tray 7 so that the keybind I have going (see the hilbert guide) triggers them whenever one is ready. I tend to forget using them, so, I find this really useful even though I'm not choosing exactly on what subsystem I'm diminishing.
There's also very cheap Doffs that nobody seems to want on the exchange that significantly shorten the cooldowns of subsystem targeting. with just one of them, I'm fairly sure I can shorten cooldowns enough so that I can fire off one such ability every fifteen second indefinitely even though innate subsystem targeting has unoptimized cooldown ratios.
There's also a great Voth Duty Officer whom makes it so that there's a good chance that a second subsystem will be taken down to zero for 3 seconds.
I run both these Doffs, and combined a flow capacitor of 100+, those inbuilt powers really pull their weight.
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You know, one thing I'd really like on science ship would be for them to realize themselves more on the non-combat things that science ships ought to have an edge on.
Don't specialized computers and powerful sensors result in having access to more information?
I'd like to see the possibility for faster gauge speeds when interacting with a mission objective.
I'd like to see better sensor ranges, being able to locate objects slightly farther, and be able to identify them from farther too. "Yeah, that hostile contact 27 km away is a Negh'var battleship."
I'd like to get more information on my target; I think it'd be fantastic to be able to see the power levels of an hostile ship I'm targeting. "That escort is coming in on us hot with full powers to weapons, but its power to shields is minimal: quick, target their shield subsystems!" It'd also help us really measure the effectiveness of Tyken Rift and Energy Siphon by actually being able to see the result.
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I think the above would be highly satisfying to have for science vessels to seem much cooler, without actually increasing their combat potency all that much. Just stress more that 'knowledge is power', and that such knowledge is at the disposal of a science ship's captain.
I don't need more hangars. I don't need more space magic. What I need is for science ships to feel more science-y.
1) Fix the model. It is blatantly flawed. (That includes the Ablative Armour activation/deactivation animation, which looks nothing like the one from VOY: "Endgame".
2) Tie the ablative console, photonic torpedo console together in a 2pc set bonus to speed, turn rate and flow caps.
3) Proper Voyager interiors. Grey colour scheme, Voyager ready room and observation lounge off of the bridge, and a proper engineering section (not that 2x massive Sovereign core).
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Something of an innate cloak detection.
Yup, such laziness. Still, looking forward to my Avenger getting one....it will eventually lol :rolleyes:
Know all about 'em. Just seemed like something to do with it would be a good fit given the way the ship operated in the series, y'know?
So it will always be 3rd place just like the Galaxy
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Actually, if it's 3rd place out of the Science Ships, then it's doing a damn sight better in its class than the Galaxy is relative to other Cruisers.
Competition is fierce in the science department: Wells, Vesta, Nebula, Nova and Intrepid.
Well, there's the Luna as well but i have never seen that particular ship anywhere.
But let's get back on the original question: If the Intrepid line receives a reboot, then what do you feel would be worthwhile additions.
For me it would have to be the items i mentioned in the OP or some additional science ability.
Turning an Intrepid into a science heavy escort would feel wrong.
Turning it into a carrier would have the same effect though there is something to be said regarding that because it is hard to separate Voyager and the Delta Flyer.
Let's hear your thoughts and ideas.
It could act as a ship similar to the Vulcan D'kyr's companion ship?
This shuttle is canon cause it showed up in schematics in some voyager episodes as well as technical manuals and of course Memory Alpha. See link below:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Aeroshuttle
I think this should be one of the many things added to Season 9.
Maybe make a two piece set bonus grant you a Delta Flyer (or maybe Janeway's Shuttle from the finale?) that gains the abilities of the consoles (Ablative Armor and PSW Transphasic Torpedoes). [/end musings]
Unfortunately, none of the Federation starships with Captain's Yachts/Aeroshuttles ever got implemented in the game. The Galaxy, Sovereign, Defiant, Intrepid, Nova, etc all do not have the option to go "yachting".
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Something like this would possibly make the intrepid class playstyle unique without making it overpowered and make it more appealing to players that own ships like the vesta that right now simply outclass the intrepid.
If they follow the series we might see Klingon-Talaxian hybrids. Now that is loud.
Not really relevant to the Voyager reboot though.
Except that the Captain's Yacht from Enterprise-E was used during the Ba'ku-Sona incident in Star Trek: Insurrection.
I would be content if they changed the ensign Sci to Universal.
For the Galaxy they went the route of tanking and a little turn boost, but for the already swift Intrepid something else would be needed.
Don't forget the super torpedo console, the one that will let us one shot tactical cubes in the game. :cool:
I would also LOVE it if they made the "photon torpedo point defense console", (the one that comes with the Armitage Class Heavy Escort Carrier), usable for the Intrepid model too.
Because an Intrepid spewing out lots and lots of photon torpedoes, just seems sooooo right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIGxMENwq1k
Oh, and DEFINITELY work on the underside of the Intrepid's saucer, it's hideous now!
The thing is that many interesting torpedoes from Voyager have already made their way into the game.
Chroniton Torpedoes from the krenim. In name in the game. They work differently but still..
Transphasic Torpedoes: From endgame. Diluted version in the game already.
Tricobolt torpedo.. need i say more.
Biomolecular warheads.. Romulan.
Maybe a 2-piece set would supercharge transphasic torpedoes to emulate the endgame torpedoes.
Edit: just noticed something in that vid.. Voyager targeted subsystems with torpedoes as well. Could be a nice unique feature. Targeting subsystems with torpedoes instead of having to equip beam arrays.
Well it's not as if stupid levels of spike damage already exists in this game... lol Romulan Vapers. Just make it console that says: destroy target ship.