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adamwehn1979adamwehn1979 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
I'm a little irritated by the lack of any clear demarking of such announcements. I and another player friend of mine were totally unaware that at level 50 everyone gained the slipstream ability. This is because announcements of such abilities are not clear enough to be noticed as necessary information, it just looks like more useless garbage being thrown at you. I also missed out on other important abilities that were obtained by leveling up to different tiers.
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  • risingstar2009risingstar2009 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Simple solution. Hit 'P' and view your available powers.
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  • adamwehn1979adamwehn1979 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Simple solution. Hit 'P' and view your available powers.

    That may be a solution to find out after the fact, but it should be made more clear when you obtain the powers.
    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I seem to recall pop-ups coming up on the screen saying you have unlocked Captain Rank I,II, etc abilities or something along those lines.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,229 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I seem to recall pop-ups coming up on the screen saying you have unlocked Captain Rank I,II, etc abilities or something along those lines.

    U are correct they do
  • adamwehn1979adamwehn1979 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I seem to recall pop-ups coming up on the screen saying you have unlocked Captain Rank I,II, etc abilities or something along those lines.

    Yeah and that means nothing to me, it's just useless garbage. It's not highly visible, there's no indication whatsoever that it's extremely important information
    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    They also list what you unlock at every level when you click on the level in the upper left hand corner.
  • kublahkankublahkan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm a little irritated by the lack of any clear demarking of such announcements. I and another player friend of mine were totally unaware that at level 50 everyone gained the slipstream ability. This is because announcements of such abilities are not clear enough to be noticed as necessary information, it just looks like more useless garbage being thrown at you. I also missed out on other important abilities that were obtained by leveling up to different tiers.

    Perspective my friend.
    First time I accidently hit that Full Impulse button while in sector space I was so wondering what the hell is going on??? LOL
    But I was glad and happy about it.

    What I don't like is the tooltip of that button incorrectly shows the cooldown of slipstream. You need to mouse the button in your power bar to see it.

    So cheers, don't worry about it. Enjoy the new found abilities. I know I did when I realized I had that Orbital Strike sleeping in my list...!!
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yeah and that means nothing to me, it's just useless garbage. It's not highly visible, there's no indication whatsoever that it's extremely important information
    Well, what it should mean to you is that you have received a new ability and should go and look to see what it is - available to you in a couple of different places. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • saihung423saihung423 Member Posts: 548 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    They also list what you unlock at every level when you click on the level in the upper left hand corner.

    Yep. It's listed there iirc.

    I knew about slipstream at level 10 because I was looking at all the stuff to look forward to as a new player.

    Also, those pop ups aren't hard to miss either...in fact I found them annoying and turned them off after hitting fifty on a character.
  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    What we need is a better "notification centre" for the game. Put all our DOFF assignment completions, exchange sales, new abilities, reputation project completions etc. in there!
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  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    walshicus wrote: »
    What we need is a better "notification centre" for the game. Put all our DOFF assignment completions, exchange sales, new abilities, reputation project completions etc. in there!

    I remember Diangelo saying that he wanted to implement a landing screen that summarizes what has happened since you last logged on. Doff missions, exchange sells, as well as content you might have missed. Sort of like a PADD from your Yeoman.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Game says "Gained new power."

    OP ignores.

    Game's fault OP doesn't know what happened.

    Seems legit.
  • adamwehn1979adamwehn1979 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Game says "Gained new power."

    OP ignores.

    Game's fault OP doesn't know what happened.

    Seems legit.

    It's not the fact that I ignored it, it's the fact that visually it looks exactly the same as useless garbage messages. I'm not looking for a totally brand new thing here, what I think is needed is some kind of very clear differentiation from the standard useless garbage messages you get. Make the text for it red, or orange or some high visibility color. Something that pops and catches the users attention.
    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Make the text for it red, or orange or some high visibility color. Something that pops and catches the users attention.

    Make it 4-inch high blinking red letters, accompanied by the Star Trek "Red Alert" sound.


    ...and you'll still have people complaining that it blends into the game and they missed it. :rolleyes:
  • adamwehn1979adamwehn1979 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Make it 4-inch high blinking red letters, accompanied by the Star Trek "Red Alert" sound.


    ...and you'll still have people complaining that it blends into the game and they missed it. :rolleyes:

    Your condescending attitude does not help you. Perhaps if you tried a little compassion you might learn to be a better human being.
    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Your condescending attitude does not help you. Perhaps if you tried a little compassion you might learn to be a better human being.
    We understand that you want a better announcement, and you have made your case. Beyond that there is nothing else to be said in the thread. It is now up to the Devs to decide whether or not they wish to change the existing system. All the patter back and forth is not helping your case.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Your condescending attitude does not help you. Perhaps if you tried a little compassion you might learn to be a better human being.

    You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a [REDACTED].

    We get it, the notices weren't "in your face" enough to meet your need to have your hand held and be told everything will be all right. Maybe the devs will have more "compassion" for your noble cause.
  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a [REDACTED].

    We get it, the notices weren't "in your face" enough to meet your need to have your hand held and be told everything will be all right. Maybe the devs will have more "compassion" for your noble cause.

    It's sad that despite the constant anti-whining we see on this forum, when an OP does actually post constructive criticism or asks for clarity of information (intuitiveness), he or she is met with childish retorts and baseless character assumptions.
  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a [REDACTED].

    We get it, the notices weren't "in your face" enough to meet your need to have your hand held and be told everything will be all right. Maybe the devs will have more "compassion" for your noble cause.

    Why do you have to be so aggressive on this? There is absolutely, 100% a place for better transparency and player-feedback in STO.
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Perhaps it could be made clearer.

    To be fair, UI tutorials are a bit random in game.

    One of the things we did when our fleet was getting new players was spend 20 minutes running around the academy showing them how the interface works.

    However, the information is actually there, in more than one place too.

    Just have to look for it and accept it's not as crystal as it could be.
  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    walshicus wrote: »
    Why do you have to be so aggressive on this? There is absolutely, 100% a place for better transparency and player-feedback in STO.

    That's the part that boggles my mind. Just like with the social devices toggle suggestion, how could someone possibly argue against more transparency for ability rewards? What's the downside to alerting the player, in more specific and immediate terms, what it is they should be looking for?
  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    walshicus wrote: »
    Why do you have to be so aggressive on this? There is absolutely, 100% a place for better transparency and player-feedback in STO.

    1. Not with Cryptic, They tend to ignore any and all complaints unless t has something to do with giving them money

    2. Sorry to say, you have to be trying to miss all the places it tells you for new abilities, It would be a waste of time and effort because it so so easy and obvious already.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Just like with the social devices toggle suggestion, how could someone possibly argue against more transparency for ability rewards?

    Strawman much? :rolleyes:

    I've never argued against a client-side disco-ball toggle. I have indeed raised unholy hell about some of the more vapid anti-disco-ball suggestions like private ghetto instances for those who won't play like the disco-ball haters want, but that's more than just a little bit different.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    That's the part that boggles my mind. Just like with the social devices toggle suggestion, how could someone possibly argue against more transparency for ability rewards? What's the downside to alerting the player, in more specific and immediate terms, what it is they should be looking for?
    There is no downside to transparency; but at the same time players do need to take some responsibility for their own actions within the game. Saying it is too much trouble for ME to pay attention to the announcement does not mean the announcement is a problem. There are potentially hundreds-of-thousands of players in the game and this forum has not been flooded with "give me a better Captain's Power announcement system. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    There is no downside to transparency; but at the same time players do need to take some responsibility for their own actions within the game.

    And there, in that one word, is what the late Frank Zappa would refer to as "the crux of the biscuit."
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    And there, in that one word, is what the late Frank Zappa would refer to as "the crux of the biscuit."

    Watch out where the Epohh go?
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I seem to recall pop-ups coming up on the screen saying you have unlocked Captain Rank I,II, etc abilities or something along those lines.

    Yeah and that means nothing to me, it's just useless garbage. It's not highly visible, there's no indication whatsoever that it's extremely important information

    Just because you couldn't be bothered to read it does not mean there is a game-side problem. The problem is what I call "Voluntary Illiteracy" and you were, if ever so briefly, suffering from it.

    If they gave you a series of brightly colored announcements that told you about new abilities, would that make you happy? I bet by the time you hit LtC rank you'd be click-click-clicking to get those annoying messages out of your way even faster than with the one, concise, window that pops up now.

    "I can't be bothered to read, let me pew-PEW-PEW, naw-NAW-NAW!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
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  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Strawman much? :rolleyes:

    I've never argued against a client-side disco-ball toggle. I have indeed raised unholy hell about some of the more vapid anti-disco-ball suggestions like private ghetto instances for those who won't play like the disco-ball haters want, but that's more than just a little bit different.

    It would have been a strawman, had I suggested you said it, but I didn't. I was merely drawing a comparison which I believe is relevant: Suggesting better ability announcements in no way detracts from another player's experience, therefore I cannot fathom why anyone would argue against the OP's suggestion.

    Instead, this thread is full of attacks on the OP's character and assumptions that he or she simply can't be bothered to read. Stellar community we have here, where even simple suggestions are lambasted.

    See the above post for an example.
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    There is no downside to transparency; but at the same time players do need to take some responsibility for their own actions within the game. Saying it is too much trouble for ME to pay attention to the announcement does not mean the announcement is a problem. There are potentially hundreds-of-thousands of players in the game and this forum has not been flooded with "give me a better Captain's Power announcement system. :)

    What does responsibility have anything to do with it?

    The OP seems like a completely responsible player, yet still managed to miss the ability change announcements because--as the OP correctly points out--those fly-ins look like even the most basic messages. The complaint is reasonable and the solution is equally reasonable.

    And who cares if one, two, a hundred, or a thousand people take to the forums to complain. One player having a bad experience is enough for us to respect what they have to say and not dismiss it outright.
  • adamwehn1979adamwehn1979 Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It's sad that despite the constant anti-whining we see on this forum, when an OP does actually post constructive criticism or asks for clarity of information (intuitiveness), he or she is met with childish retorts and baseless character assumptions.

    Thank you.
    These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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