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Is it worth it to get the new Dyson Destroyer 3 Pack?
induperator
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The full Dyson Science Destroyers will be released on the 20th of February and will come with enhanced Stats and Ability Consoles that will give us the power of the Dyson Destroyers that we flew in the Mission "A Step Between the Stars" they seem like fairly decent ships and had many new abilities yet I find myself undecided on whether or not to get the new Enhanced 3 Pack
I've seen threads both praising and condemning the Dyson Ships and I've been told that there are better ships to get and it seems to me that the Tactical and Science modes are really just nifty Toys and aren't much of an advantage over normal ships. One of the common worries about the Destroyer is the Solonae Dual Heavy Proton Cannons and how they cannot be effectively buffed like normal energy types meaning the ship looses out on DPS, but can the Destroyer still be effectively used by a Tactical Character?
So before I whip out my Credit Card I want to know, are the Dyson Destroyers worth 5000 Zen? Or are there better ships we can get? and will the console abilities actually be useful in PvE? or are they just useless Vanity Toys to play with like most other ship consoles?
I've seen threads both praising and condemning the Dyson Ships and I've been told that there are better ships to get and it seems to me that the Tactical and Science modes are really just nifty Toys and aren't much of an advantage over normal ships. One of the common worries about the Destroyer is the Solonae Dual Heavy Proton Cannons and how they cannot be effectively buffed like normal energy types meaning the ship looses out on DPS, but can the Destroyer still be effectively used by a Tactical Character?
So before I whip out my Credit Card I want to know, are the Dyson Destroyers worth 5000 Zen? Or are there better ships we can get? and will the console abilities actually be useful in PvE? or are they just useless Vanity Toys to play with like most other ship consoles?
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If you like the Science Destroyer, and the play-style it represents, then getting a C-Store version with 10 Console Slots and slightly better stats will certainly be better then the free RA-Level version you got from the Event. But it is still not an "I Win" ship.
It is also important to keep in mind that the C-Store Pack will end up having a total of 8 Consoles/Abilities to get all the bells and whistles: The Secondary Deflector and 3 Universal Consoles from the C-Store Pack and the 4 Equipment abilities from the Event and FE. Using all 8 of those Consoles/Abilities at once might actually decrease your ship's potential performance compared to other builds you might make from other Equipment.
You are not going to get a perfect ship simply by buying the 3-Pack.
I think the term the OP was really looking for is 'viable'. His question, as I read it, could be more correctly stated as; "Are these ships viable compared to other end-game vessels?"
Tenix - Romulan Science Officer - KDF Ally [INACTIVE]
M'ossa - Ferasan Science Officer - KDF [MAIN]
Formerly known on the forums as Remissus
Personally, I'm not going to be going for it, at least not right now. I have other goals I'm saving up dilithium for, and nothing about the ship is screaming at me to get it that I can't get from the free ship. My personal list of things to look for is, does it look cool, does it kick some tail, and do I have fun with it.
Does it look cool? Personally I think the Romulan one does, but the looks are pretty much the same on both the free one and the C-store, so no real decider there. Though if I ever have the free money and nothing better to spend it on, I'll probably get the Rom three pack because of the looks. I have zero interest in getting three almost identical ships with different styling.
Does it kick tail? Again, for me, this boils down to can it run ISE without blowing up that much, and I can get a 9 console ship to do that most times, so I don't need the extra console slot.
Do I have fun with it? Again, the most I ever do these days is run ISE and whatever the latest hoop Cryptic holds up, so yeah, free or c-store, its going to work for me.
Again, this is what I personally will go for, your warp drive may very.
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How useful the Consoles and additional Set Bonus are will entirely depend on your play-style, but you should not expect them to be superior to what is already available. As I said above, it will not be an "I Win" ship. It is simply another ship with its own unique abilities. You might love using the Science Destroyer but have no use for the existing Set Pieces: free or C-Store, and decide to outfit the ship with Reputation gear instead.
You should be buying ships because you like using the ship. Not because you think you will be getting something extraordinary, IMO.
I have been using the ship with protonic arsenal and found it very potent for my playstyle.
I would agree with this keeping in mind that the CStore version gives you a Uni LT in place of the Sci LT. Normally a subtle difference like this really can make ships that were seemingly hard to setup, easy again.
I would have to agree with this idea. High DPS players are going to remove the consoles sets. Look ate the scimitar and other ships. But I still enjoy playing with the set at times, I love the gimmick play. But if I was trying to accomplish something like a NWS win, the gimmick consoles come off and I build a ship for the win.
The way I see it is if you aren't having fun do things differently. If you want to heal then heal as most likely you will have some one to carry the team any way and if they say you are useless well they are lying and ignore them as you are having fun. People will always want faster loot. It is in human nature. If you want to tank cryptic made it easier with the delta doff, or if you want to troll somebody. At the very least you are making the run easier to do even if it is slightly longer. Notice the word slightly.
Funniest post of the month.
This is a damn good philosophy behind ship buying, that I agree with.
My current ship of choice at the moment is a Fleet Defiant. I am a huge fan of DS9, I love that little ship, and so I bought the admiral-level one with the cloak instead of switching over to a different escort. I have not regretted it once.
Now, take someone who has no connection to a ship and just sees a c-store ship an an "I Win" Button and buys it for that, then gets steamrollered by someone with a boatload of Fleet Equipment, or gets wrecked thinking they can carry an elite PvE mission with the special gimmicks and normal gear.....
Betcha they're gonna ***** about how their shiny new toy got its TRIBBLE handed to it.
You should buy shinies because you like them in some way more concrete than "it'll give me a bigger stick".
"I always hope for the best. Experience, unfortunately, has taught me to expect the worst."
-Elim Garak