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[Loadouts] Tray Configuration does not save properly

suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Builds, Powers, and Game Mechanics
Here's the thing - the one and only feature of the whole Loadout system I was looking for was the Tray Configuration save, as it's the only thing that was almost always a mess after switching a ship.

And guess what - it's still a mess...


So here's what I did:

- I went to system space and saved my loadout, pretty much like here - http://i.imgur.com/QRFHS9X.jpg
- I went to the shipyard, discarded one of my ships I didn't care for
- I opened up the Dyson Science Destroyer box to take out the items it came with (i.e. I've got a new ship)
- I changed the name of the Science Destroyer, so it has changed its position on my shipyard ship list
- I went back to system space with my old ship to see this - http://i.imgur.com/3pXE98L.jpg

I've tried loading the loadout I've saved earlier, but it did nothing to the Tray whatsoever. I've even tried removing everything from the tray and loading the loadout again, but it only loaded the equipment, boffs and doffs, while the tray remained empty.

My shuttle's tray configuration was all messed up after this as well (been doing shuttle pvp), even though I've tried loading what I've saved earlier - this time it just placed some of my abilities to random positions, but not to where I've kept them originally.


My guess is the Tray Configuration saving feature works well as long as you don't interfere with your ship list (add, discard or rename ships). Once you change something, it's back to the messed up tray and spending 5 minutes sorting everything out...

Honestly, it's way easier to re-equip all the items and boffs than to re-organize the whole tray. As such, the whole feature is useless to me in its current state.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Why i am not surprised.. :(
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    Here's the thing - the one and only feature of the whole Loadout system I was looking for was the Tray Configuration save, as it's the only thing that was almost always a mess after switching a ship.

    And guess what - it's still a mess...


    So here's what I did:

    - I went to system space and saved my loadout, pretty much like here - http://i.imgur.com/QRFHS9X.jpg
    - I went to the shipyard, discarded one of my ships I didn't care for
    - I opened up the Dyson Science Destroyer box to take out the items it came with (i.e. I've got a new ship)
    - I changed the name of the Science Destroyer, so it has changed its position on my shipyard ship list
    - I went back to system space with my old ship to see this - http://i.imgur.com/3pXE98L.jpg

    I've tried loading the loadout I've saved earlier, but it did nothing to the Tray whatsoever. I've even tried removing everything from the tray and loading the loadout again, but it only loaded the equipment, boffs and doffs, while the tray remained empty.

    My shuttle's tray configuration was all messed up after this as well (been doing shuttle pvp), even though I've tried loading what I've saved earlier - this time it just placed some of my abilities to random positions, but not to where I've kept them originally.


    My guess is the Tray Configuration saving feature works well as long as you don't interfere with your ship list (add, discard or rename ships). Once you change something, it's back to the messed up tray and spending 5 minutes sorting everything out...

    Honestly, it's way easier to re-equip all the items and boffs than to re-organize the whole tray. As such, the whole feature is useless to me in its current state.

    Yeah I have come to learn that any ship swapping, ship replacement/reassigning, change of boff's/doff's, and even gear sometimes will get you those results.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    Yeah I have come to learn that any ship swapping, ship replacement/resigning, change of boff's/doff's, and even gear sometimes will get you those results.

    The problem is, for some people, there is no "sometimes" . It is "always", unfortunately.
  • sounthernrebelsounthernrebel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    edgecrysger wrote: »
    The problem is, for some people, there is no "sometimes" . It is "always", unfortunately.

    I have the same problem the load out system is pointless the presets don't load properly.

    I personally just set up my ship and manually change what is needed such as my BOFFs and minor changes to the task bar when swapping ships. THIS works way better than the loadout system. IN MY OPINION it should be removed and sent back to the redshirt server for more testing if not removed completely from game
  • wilbor2wilbor2 Member Posts: 1,684 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My main reason for not swaping ships is because of the power tray.
    Yet again cryptic have released something that does not fully work and probably never will.
    going by their past record of saying things are fixed.
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  • anothervisitoranothervisitor Member Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This saved loadout stuff is totally screwed up. If I switch ships and try to load a saved build it won't even drag consoles from the other ones. Then after that it just shuffles the boffs in the status window and wont even load anything anymore. Only the correct boffs get on your ship, equipment and doffs don't budge at all. Totally broken...

    It works fine as long as you stick to that ship, get another one involved and boom...
    I you share items in loadouts on several ships or move an item manually you are screwed bigtime.
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  • speedofheatspeedofheat Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    yup same diagnostic as OP, same result... scrambled tray ... scrambled loadouts
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  • anothervisitoranothervisitor Member Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    After closer inspection it seems that all your starship loadouts seem bound somehow to the shuttle you use. If you save a loadout on a different shuttle then all your saved starship loadouts turn into a mess that becomes unusable. Then only the boffs still load, nothing else. At least this is how it is for me.

    If I stick to one shuttle, it holds together mostly.
    Tyr shall give me strength!
    For the glory of Tempus!
    I am the hands of Shar!
    Flames of Kossuth, protect me!
    Oghma, grant me knowledge!
    Lolth commands, and I obey!
  • gatsie7gatsie7 Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Is anyone else having the issue where switching loadouts results in none of your tac's being slotted in ?
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Sad thing is, it's already released on Holodeck so I doubt we can expect a fix, especially since this is essentially the same issue that's been present since the game launch.

    Oh well, at least I won't bother with purchasing more loadout slots.
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  • speedofheatspeedofheat Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ok I just tried something that seemed to work:

    I had been naming my Loadouts PvE and PvP on all my ships, so I wondered if it was getting confused between them, kinda like it did if you had BOFF costume names the same for the load screen.

    So I renamed the loadouts PVE-<ShipName>, PvP-<ShipName> and it seems to work OK anyone else want to try and when I swap ships it works, would someone else like to try and verify ?
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  • beamsuckerbeamsucker Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I had been naming my Loadouts PvE and PvP on all my ships, so I wondered if it was getting confused between them, kinda like it did if you had BOFF costume names the same for the load screen.
    All my loadouts has unique names but this does not affect the problem.

    It seems that for loadouts it is the same bug as before: If you change something that affects the order of ships in the list (add, rename or remove a ship) the tray configuration is no longer correct.

    IMO the tray is not saved for the ships ID. It is saved for a ships position in the list and so it can't be reloaded when the position has changed.

    This bug should be easy to fix. I do not understand why this is now a bug for years and why it's allready not fixed for the new loadout feature.
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    [QUOTE=beamsucker;15213951

    This bug should be easy to fix. I do not understand why this is now a bug for years and why it's allready not fixed for the new loadout feature.[/QUOTE]

    U kidding right? i could tell you about 200 bugs that are "easy" to fix. But i dont understand y u guys complain about the same again and again. The "why" is , like always, cryptic does not have time to invest on fixing bugs, since they need all their resources to keep inventing new content and new ways to zenomize the customers. If you tell me, they dont fix bugs because they dont know how, then i tell you, where is all the money cryptic is "renting" from all their customers invested?? i dont get it, seriously. Even a monkey could be able to fix some bugs of the game that are broken since eons ago. But well, this is never going to change until the lifetime subscribers and the monthly ones wake up and stop giving cryptic reasons to keep doing nothing for the next 3 years, as well as the people who spent incredible high ammounts of zen every month (but i dont think the game will last more than 1 year if this keeps going this way).
  • beamsuckerbeamsucker Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    edgecrysger wrote: »
    U kidding right? i could tell you about 200 bugs that are "easy" to fix. But i dont understand y u guys complain about the same again and again. The "why" is , like always, cryptic does not have time to invest on fixing bugs, since they need all their resources to keep inventing new content and new ways to zenomize the customers. If you tell me, they dont fix bugs because they dont know how, then i tell you, where is all the money cryptic is "renting" from all their customers invested?? i dont get it, seriously. Even a monkey could be able to fix some bugs of the game that are broken since eons ago. But well, this is never going to change until the lifetime subscribers and the monthly ones wake up and stop giving cryptic reasons to keep doing nothing for the next 3 years, as well as the people who spent incredible high ammounts of zen every month (but i dont think the game will last more than 1 year if this keeps going this way).

    This post is unnecessary and unhelpful.
  • bytingfangsbytingfangs Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It may be an angry post, but it's not unnecessary. If these bugs are STILL there after so VERY long it stands to reason that regardless of what Cryptic is doing it is NOT fixing bugs. I know I've submitted at least two tickets regarding this, and the issue is seriously affecting my ability to play the game.

    I am a lifer that commonly purchases Zen, or did until I ran into THIS debacle. Every time I do any ground activity my tray scrambles like an angry egg now, and nothing I have tried has been able to allow the changes to my tray to stick. I've submitted several bugs and am submitting yet another bug with absolutely no response. I'm tired of being ignored. My only remaining option is to stop playing and stop paying them.

    I like this game. I have friends here. Don't make giving it up my only option, Cryptic...
  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Added 2 new SCF ships and they seem to save the tray configurations right off the bat. I also changed the arrangements and they save. But existing ships have the issue still. So your all are renaming the trays and you say it works?

    I need 4 devices and they keep and dropping off on my primary ships. I could work around them but they're used in case of emergency. Like break the glass type. :D


    Hey hey now!

    BAD ZOMBIE BAD GO BACK TO THE GROUND!

    Seriously folks, if a thread hasn't been responded to in 30 days please don't bring it back up :( If you feel you need to continue the thread by all means make a new one! :) And not to mention this thread has a bug report already in the gameplay bugs report area.

    /Closed ~Askray
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    Time will only tell!
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