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sovereign77xsovereign77x Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited February 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
The other night I traded my embassy Romulan bridge officer to a friend of mine so that he could be trained in high level tactical skills. When my friend traded him back to me, my Romulan no longer had any feet! What's more, he is now completely bald. Has anyone else encountered this, and if so, is there any easy fix?
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  • heero139heero139 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This has been going on since the embassy boffs came out, and there's no fix at all.
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  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited February 2014
    Under investigation.
    STO QA Team
  • icegavelicegavel Member Posts: 991 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This happened to me as well. My friend had a spare Rom BOff from the Embassy. I wanted to get one, to increase my Crit (note: this is blue Rom Female Tac). He traded the BOff to me...

    And she had no face. She still doesn't. So, she is now called Miss No-Face. Because she has no face. My friend took a picture of the BOff from my bridge the day it happened.
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This will probably end up with embassy boffs being untradeable.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The other night I traded my embassy Romulan bridge officer to a friend of mine so that he could be trained in high level tactical skills. When my friend traded him back to me, my Romulan no longer had any feet! What's more, he is now completely bald. Has anyone else encountered this, and if so, is there any easy fix?

    Known issue; and very annoying issue.

    I think this has to do with these Embassy boffs not being customizable. My guess (and that's really all it is), is that regular boffs get a 'load looks and uniform' command issued on trade (and like at the tailor's). Since these boffs can't be customized, I'm guessing these actions are foregone on them upon return to your crew; and since trading inherently messes with their clothes and looks (ast the other Captain may not have all costumes you bought), I bet several body parts are simply left absent upon return.

    Solution? Very simple: toggle 1 flag to make em customizeable. That would be doing the community a great service in the process, as I then don't have to look at all these fugly Rom clones in their faux Robin Hood suits any more, and can at least dress em up properly, and be able to visit my bridge again.
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  • kalanikalani Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Wait so we can trade him. Is there ay market to buy these guys?
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Under investigation.

    Does that mean we can see a fix to this soon? :) Please, say yes.
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  • veryth12veryth12 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Solution? Very simple: toggle 1 flag to make em customizeable. That would be doing the community a great service in the process, as I then don't have to look at all these fugly Rom clones in their faux Robin Hood suits any more, and can at least dress em up properly, and be able to visit my bridge again.

    I still do not understand why they did not make them customizable. It is understandable for the races that do not have a lot of resources in the game for, like the Breen, Jem'Hadar, Voth etc Bridge offivers, but they have everything for these officers already with the bridge officers that the Romulan captains can get.

    Speaking of which, it would be awesome to have a way for Klingon and Fed captains to get a Reman officer.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    veryth12 wrote: »
    I still do not understand why they did not make them customizable. It is understandable for the races that do not have a lot of resources in the game for, like the Breen, Jem'Hadar, Voth etc Bridge offivers, but they have everything for these officers already with the bridge officers that the Romulan captains can get.

    Yes, it still baffles me too. Especially considering it was to be expected, each having 2.0% CrtH and all, that ppl would have no choice but to stick as many on their bridges as possible.

    And on that note, we need more boff slots as well: the large influx of Embassy boffs mandates the necessity.
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    veryth12 wrote: »
    I still do not understand why they did not make them customizable. It is understandable for the races that do not have a lot of resources in the game for, like the Breen, Jem'Hadar, Voth etc Bridge offivers, but they have everything for these officers already with the bridge officers that the Romulan captains can get.

    Speaking of which, it would be awesome to have a way for Klingon and Fed captains to get a Reman officer.

    This is what should happen but
    orondis wrote: »
    This will probably end up with embassy boffs being untradeable.
    This is what will probably happen.

    kalani2 wrote: »
    Wait so we can trade him. Is there ay market to buy these guys?

    Not really, you can trade the already equipped versions like any equipped Bo only from player to player.

    May be if you ask arround in zone or trade chanels you'll find someone willing to sell his, may be even here, but as this thread states, you will end up with broken visuals. Just get your own, at least the green one isn't that expensive.
  • veryth12veryth12 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    And on that note, we need more boff slots as well: the large influx of Embassy boffs mandates the necessity.

    On that issue I always have mixed feelings. The Star Trek fan in me wants to have lots of bridge officers, I mean, they are your crew after all. At the same time however, I feel like once I picked my space bridge officers and my ground bridge officers, I don't need any more for game play than that. I typically fly the same ship (or very similiar ones) and I have never felt the need to change who I bring on my away team for ground, although sometimes I feel kind of silly that my away team, counting me, always contain the Captain, First Officer, second Officer and Chief Medical Officer of the ship. I feel like I am taking a page out of Kirk's playbook, and leave a random engisn in charge of the ship everytime there's an away team.

    Unless I am missing some dynamic of ground game play...
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    veryth12 wrote: »
    On that issue I always have mixed feelings. The Star Trek fan in me wants to have lots of bridge officers, I mean, they are your crew after all. At the same time however, I feel like once I picked my space bridge officers and my ground bridge officers, I don't need any more for game play than that. I typically fly the same ship (or very similiar ones) and I have never felt the need to change who I bring on my away team for ground, although sometimes I feel kind of silly that my away team, counting me, always contain the Captain, First Officer, second Officer and Chief Medical Officer of the ship. I feel like I am taking a page out of Kirk's playbook, and leave a random engisn in charge of the ship everytime there's an away team.

    Unless I am missing some dynamic of ground game play...

    I'd say the dynamic you're missing, is that, due to Cryptic's silly 2.0% CrtH antics, I had to basically double all my bridge officers with Embassy boffs, as i refuse to get rid of my old, loyal human crew I grew attached to. As a result, I'm at max now (54, I believe). And I can't add new ones any more, like the new Voth Science Officer, for instance.
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  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Under investigation.

    Yeah, please please please say this is going to be fixed soon. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. But as the link in my signature shows, we can have a little fun with it at least.
    veryth12 wrote: »
    I still do not understand why they did not make them customizable. It is understandable for the races that do not have a lot of resources in the game for, like the Breen, Jem'Hadar, Voth etc Bridge offivers, but they have everything for these officers already with the bridge officers that the Romulan captains can get.

    Speaking of which, it would be awesome to have a way for Klingon and Fed captains to get a Reman officer.

    Well, my guess is that it's because the embassy boffs came about before Legacy of Romulus was announced, so we weren't supposed to know there'd be actual Romulans in game. There's now absolutely no reason we can't have them wearing other uniforms. I took the following screencap during A Step Between Stars

    Crew briefing

    For whatever reason, it sent down my four Romulan Boffs. As you can see, my three embassy ones are not customizable, but the Liberated Borg Romulan science officer boff can wear whatever uniforms I have unlocked. So, Frost, if you're still following this thread, please while fixing the problem, make the embassy boffs customizable.

    And while we're kind of on the topic Frost, why can't we modify our KDF Marauder boffs? I get that they shouldn't be wearing Starfleet uniforms, but can't they wear Klingon uniforms or something? And it's not even entirely about the uniform, you can't change them at all. So.......yeah, what's up with that? Don't get me wrong I know there's a lot of other stuff, still it would be nice to get some kind of acknowledgement that this is something that could be worked on.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rtk142 wrote: »
    Yeah, please please please say this is going to be fixed soon. It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

    Glad I'm not the only one finding this issue very annoying. The dev seems to have gone away again, though.

    As for customizable, a boff is a boff; all that separates these Embassy ones from the rest is a flag, really, that says they can be changed or not (And how do I know this, you ask? Simple logic: it would be far more cumbersome to go out of their way to create an entirely new kind of boff, just for the single ocassion).

    And like I said earlier, with simply *needing* all these 2.0% CrtH boffs on your bridge, they should be customizable for that reason alone.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    orondis wrote: »
    This will probably end up with embassy boffs being untradeable.

    Why? I see no reason for that at all. Regular boffs are customizable as well, and can still be trained by other Captains.
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Why? I see no reason for that at all. Regular boffs are customizable as well, and can still be trained by other Captains.

    The reason is that it is less work to make them untradable and making them costumizable does not make people buy zen, so they take as little efford as possible (although some people even might buy romulan uniforms for the boff but cryptic doesn't think that far ahead).

    Also they are stubborn. They are not costumizable because they say so.

    Just like bos can't use off duty wear. The only reason is "they say so" and if people find a way arround that cryptic rather invests work into preventing that (braking the half costume editor in the progress, and not fixing those things they brake, as far as know the kdf costume bug is a direct result from that "fix") then into things that are actually a problem like.... Well... Fixing bugs.

    This is just the way the operate. They always did, at least in sto.
  • torsten1009torsten1009 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Bugged appearence on Romulan Bridge Officer isn't new: Take a look at this Thread, maybe you could also include it here.

    Another example of a bugged Romulan Bridge Officer (screenshot taken 20th march 2013).
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    orondis wrote: »
    This will probably end up with embassy boffs being untradeable.

    In my opinion, this is how it should have been all along.

    When fleets started unlocking purple quality romulan boffs from the fleet embassy post season 7 launch, there use to be players all the time at ESD trying to sell them. Haven't seen anybody try in a long time though.

    The duty officers you get from fleet stores are bound to character. So are fleet kits, consoles, weapons and everything else.

    The downside to not being tradeable is that you can't get other players to train them in skills you can't train yourself or get from boff candidates.
  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The downside to not being tradeable is that you can't get other players to train them in skills you can't train yourself or get from boff candidates.

    It would be nice if they could revamp the boff training thing, like maybe create a padd that can be traded that has the skill one desires. Maybe even make it account bound to keep them off the exchange if they don't want that.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    When fleets started unlocking purple quality romulan boffs from the fleet embassy post season 7 launch, there use to be players all the time at ESD trying to sell them.

    Then double dumb-*ss on the buyer, as it's the blue Tact Embassy doffs you want! ("Why, O why, didn't I take the blue doff?!")
    The downside to not being tradeable is that you can't get other players to train them in skills you can't train yourself or get from boff candidates.

    Exactly. Ergo, no BFAW for anyone who is not a Tact Captain! So, let's not do that, k?
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  • heero139heero139 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    So if you're not a tac toon, you either have to choose between using any of BFAW3, APB3, CRF3, HY3, or having a guy with the trait superior romulan officer?

    That's the last thing this game needs.


    If you can't fix the costumes breaking, just leave the boffs alone. Their function in the game is pretty vital at this point for making anything but the romulan faction viable for anything.

    for fun, here's yet another old thread from february last year.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=549191
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I have several Romulan boffs that are missing their entire upper body, head, and arms, they only have floating eyeballs, hands, and ears. This would look incredibly stupid if I went around on ground with them so I have to keep a separate ground boff crew, but it still looks stupid when I go to my bridge and see them there.

    Make embassy boffs customizable Cryptic. This would fix the bug I believe. I understand them not being customizable at first, but LoR has been out for months, all the body parts and Romulan uniforms are there now and they might sell a whole lot more to people that want them for flavor and not just people looking to increase DPS.
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    marc8219 wrote: »
    I have several Romulan boffs that are missing their entire upper body, head, and arms, they only have floating eyeballs, hands, and ears. This would look incredibly stupid if I went around on ground with them so I have to keep a separate ground boff crew, but it still looks stupid when I go to my bridge and see them there.

    Make embassy boffs customizable Cryptic. This would fix the bug I believe. I understand them not being customizable at first, but LoR has been out for months, all the body parts and Romulan uniforms are there now and they might sell a whole lot more to people that want them for flavor and not just people looking to increase DPS.

    Lol.
    If I had that I'd take that BO with me all the time.
    For the fact alone that people will hate that, complain and this might speed the progress..

    But after all, I don't really care for their trades (yet), I just want a "replica" of my Rom Eng captain as BO (just like I have a "Replica" of my KDF captain as BO on my rom toon. They hang out a lot.... Essentially thats why I won't buy those until they are customizable. Or until I decide to get back to PVP and end up needing them, but I'd probably take my rom then anyway.
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Lol.
    If I had that I'd take that BO with me all the time.
    For the fact alone that people will hate that, complain and this might speed the progress..

    But after all, I don't really care for their trades (yet), I just want a "replica" of my Rom Eng captain as BO (just like I have a "Replica" of my KDF captain as BO on my rom toon. They hang out a lot.... Essentially thats why I won't buy those until they are customizable. Or until I decide to get back to PVP and end up needing them, but I'd probably take my rom then anyway.

    I went around New Romulus with a bugged boff for a few days, got some laughs out of some people, but it gets old very fast.

    Besides being an eyesore, it makes the game look very unfinished and unprofessional for a bug like this to be around so long. Do they really want people running around the Dyson Sphere or other new content with their boffs looking like this for everyone to see their over 1 year old bug?
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    marc8219 wrote: »
    I went around New Romulus with a bugged boff for a few days, got some laughs out of some people, but it gets old very fast.

    Besides being an eyesore, it makes the game look very unfinished and unprofessional for a bug like this to be around so long. Do they really want people running around the Dyson Sphere or other new content with their boffs looking like this for everyone to see their over 1 year old bug?

    Apart from looking mighty sloppy, I also don't really get it. I mean, they invest all this time into making a gorgeous Flotilla, which must have taken thousands of hours to create, and then, when it comes to fugly eye-sores like this, they don't seem to care at all. Were it me, I'd have some professional pride even, so as not to have others see my work in a constant broken state like that. Especially if all it took was to quickly toggle 1 'customizable' flag.

    N.B. Yesterday I saw someone use the word 'costumizable' instead. It was probably not intended as a pun, but a pretty good one at that nonetheless. :P
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